Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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DC MPD to “investigate” the Swann Street showdown that led to all those protesters staying over at that guy’s house

https://dcist.com/story/20/06/03/d-c-police-chief-defends-officers-involved-in-incident-on-swann-street/

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

Seems like progress

#BREAKING Los Angeles Police Commission announces reforms:

-Require officers to intervene if they see misconduct
-Support establishment of special prosecutor for police misconduct outside District Attorney
-Cut $100-150 million in police budget
-Lessen juvenile jailing

— Elex Michaelson (@Elex_Michaelson) June 4, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

cutting the budget is the big one

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

That's the one that got the most complaints in the replies I read. A lot of people who think they want reforms still don't quite get it. "How will they fight crime?"

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

only 300 rocket launchers instead of 750

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link

A good start.

DJI, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

Distant xpost, but I actually took American Sign Language as one of my language requirements at school (sadly, I've forgotten most of it). It was fascinating to learn how much your hyper expressive face and eyes and eye contact play a role in providing punctuation, among other components; it's as important as and sometimes more important than the signing itself, so much so that it's remarkably hard to subtitle. I've recommended taking ASL classes to plenty of folks as a good public speaking tool, actually.

That said, remember, 100 years ago, when that translator in ... the Olympics? South Africa? Mandela tribute? Wherever it was, he was totally goofy and briefly became a translator celebrity, until it was shown he was an imposter who was just gesticulating wildly and creatively.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link

I do remember that, that was very silly.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

There will always still be 390 million out of 330 million-ish bad guys with guns.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link

illegal even in war

sleeve, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link

war is governed by international protocols, but internal oppression is governed by the internal oppressors

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

the comment by the asheville police chief is face-punch worthy

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:40 (three years ago) link

that 150m cut to the LAPD budget is from a 3bn total. it's not enough.

garcetti is extremely dumb (not deblasio dumb, but pretty bad). he's term limited and banking on a spot in a biden administration, which limits the leverage of protestors over him in particular. and the city council that cowrites the budget is traditionally a low turnout sinecure. still, people are trying, and in LA style they are doing it by cutting quite slick reels:

We see you, Mayor Garcetti. Please share widely. pic.twitter.com/puknIxTcOY

— Nick Andert (@NickAndert) June 3, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link

Aimless please don't ever comment on any of my posts ever again, tyvm

sleeve, Thursday, 4 June 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

First Avenue is discontinuing of hiring off duty MPD for security at concerts

People on Facebook are shitting themselves because Pizza Luce is ending its 10% police discount lol

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

that's good

a bakery in town had someone buy a bunch of cupcakes and then donate them to the cops. the cops publicly thanked them and the bakery in response made a public statement noting that they had nothing to do with it and stood in support of etc. <3

sleeve, Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

looks like people were upset with pizza luce for allegedly delivering pizza to the third precinct last week during the riots ??

budo jeru, Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

whatever, sorry. there are more important things to focus on rn.

budo jeru, Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Yeah didn't see that maybe was a response? was just laughing my ass off at ppl clutching their pearls at a cop having to spend 50 cents more on a slice

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

no justice, no piece

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Aimless please don't ever comment on any of my posts ever again

request denied

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

lol

j., Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

damn...to trade places with this shitstaind neighbor for that one instance

Senator @RandPaul on Anti-Lynching Legislation and his amendment to it: "This bill would cheapen the meaning of lynching by defining it so broadly as to include a minor bruise or abrasion."

Full video here: https://t.co/CYA1gABWAk pic.twitter.com/VSaxRPffsQ

— CSPAN (@cspan) June 4, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

This is how it’s done! Protesters in DC stayed all night and outlasted the Army National Guard. Right as day broke this protester gave a masterful and hilarious lesson on forming a phalanx. Credit to Kittykat Lounge on YT. pic.twitter.com/oZuJw1FPOB

— CongressionalBaseballFan⚾️🔴 (@CongBaseballFan) June 4, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Basically, he was acting as if he were their drill-sergeant and they just started following his orders like he was in charge. Sweet.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

lol aimless

anyway that is the greatest

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

He must be an Antifa leader.

nickn, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

When I see that goon I see ANTIFA. https://t.co/0yTmwfAPhw

— Chris Loesch (@ChrisLoesch) June 3, 2020

These dipshits are just so desperate to create a monster out of Antifa.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

Lol at giant swastika = antifa

Reminds me of the simpsons bit where the newscaster is like ‘victims are found drained of their blood with two holes in their necks. Police have revealed their prime suspect is THE MUMMY’

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

'liberals are the REAL nazis, but also, what the nazis did was good,'

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

the "fa" in "antifa" stands for

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

thank you faletinme be mice elf, again

peace, man, Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

i know this isn't unique but i read a great thread on nextdoor by a very paranoid guy urging people do do "research" like he has on antifa. he dutifully responded to every comment in a very sincere way. i wanted to ask him about his ethnographic methods but i think it got deleted.

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link

it was like those vaccine moms and their research

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link

I imagine the people freaked out about Antifa are mostly the same ones who were terrified of "the caravan" and Sharia law. It feels like a lot of people are sort of desperate to be important enough for someone to invade them, but it keeps not happening. (And instead their kids keep moving away.)

The only things they have worth stealing are their guns.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

Antifa sounds more like a mid-90s political pop punk band name

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

^^Pretty sure I saw them at Warped Tour right before Mad Caddies TORE...SHIT...UP.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

https://theintercept.com/2020/06/04/dc-city-council-janeese-lewis-george-election/

Sorry if already covered but this is cool

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

New Tonight: Disturbing video from @WBFO in Buffalo, NY shows an elderly man walk up to police in riot gear. An officer shoves the man...he falls backwards, hits his head...starts bleeding immediately...motionless.
Why did this happen @BPDAlerts ?
pic.twitter.com/qbTvXAAPLH

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) June 5, 2020

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

Pretty harrowing video - the two proximal officers are "suspended without pay" and there will be an "internal investigation", no problem here, no sir.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

Is that guy ok?

Spottie, Friday, 5 June 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

I've seen videos of the incident in front of Buffalo's City Hall in which an older protester appears to have been shoved by police, fell backwards and suffered a serious head injury. It sickens me. I've confirmed he is at ECMC in stable condition. My thoughts are with him now.

— Mark Poloncarz (@markpoloncarz) June 5, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

(tho consider the source)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link

separately, NYS determines that habeas corpus is suspended, opts to keep peaceful protesters in close quarters for extended periods during a pandemic.

Breaking: NYS Judge James Burke rules NYPD can now keep anyone (peaceful protestors arrested for curfew and criminal looters) detained for over 24 hours given these are extraordinary times. “It’s a crisis within a crisis", he said. "All writs are denied, BK, BX and manhattan"

— Bryan Llenas (@BryanLlenas) June 4, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

NYAG replied to the tweet thred that "she" (because I am sure there are assistants that also maintain the twitter; i know who the NYAG is) has seen the video. also in that original thred other ppl say he is alive

That video of the elderly man being pushed made me think a lot about the meaninglessness of the individualistic "good cops" "bad apples" debate vs the phenomenon of "police." It doesn't matter that some of them have the initial reaction of showing normal human concern for the fact that a man is on the ground bleeding from his head, they are quickly corrected by others, all in identical black riot gear, like straying sheep butted back into the group. People become their roles.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link


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