Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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Pretty harrowing video - the two proximal officers are "suspended without pay" and there will be an "internal investigation", no problem here, no sir.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

Is that guy ok?

Spottie, Friday, 5 June 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

I've seen videos of the incident in front of Buffalo's City Hall in which an older protester appears to have been shoved by police, fell backwards and suffered a serious head injury. It sickens me. I've confirmed he is at ECMC in stable condition. My thoughts are with him now.

— Mark Poloncarz (@markpoloncarz) June 5, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

(tho consider the source)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link

separately, NYS determines that habeas corpus is suspended, opts to keep peaceful protesters in close quarters for extended periods during a pandemic.

Breaking: NYS Judge James Burke rules NYPD can now keep anyone (peaceful protestors arrested for curfew and criminal looters) detained for over 24 hours given these are extraordinary times. “It’s a crisis within a crisis", he said. "All writs are denied, BK, BX and manhattan"

— Bryan Llenas (@BryanLlenas) June 4, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

NYAG replied to the tweet thred that "she" (because I am sure there are assistants that also maintain the twitter; i know who the NYAG is) has seen the video. also in that original thred other ppl say he is alive

That video of the elderly man being pushed made me think a lot about the meaninglessness of the individualistic "good cops" "bad apples" debate vs the phenomenon of "police." It doesn't matter that some of them have the initial reaction of showing normal human concern for the fact that a man is on the ground bleeding from his head, they are quickly corrected by others, all in identical black riot gear, like straying sheep butted back into the group. People become their roles.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

brief moment of respite amidst horror

"Lose Yo Job" By Me & @Remixgodsuede 🔥🚀😎 • #iMarkkeyz pic.twitter.com/9vtFay03oj

— iMarkkeyz (@iMarkkeyz) June 4, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link

As a Buffalo resident nothing about that video surprises me

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 5 June 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link

And here just a few hours ago I was telling a someone looks like the police are standing down, might actually be a quiet night downtown tonight. Like a goddamn imbecile.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 5 June 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link

there’s a photo of buffalo cops kneeling on that very sidewalk 24 hours ago

mookieproof, Friday, 5 June 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

just another night of dominating the battlespace in the war against peaceful elderly citizens

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 June 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link

also here's a follow-up on this asshole
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/04/man-who-drew-bow-arrow/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 05:24 (three years ago) link

xp as the article states, this is the founding precept of the Extinction Rebellion. I have my fingers crossed that it's borne out.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 5 June 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link

spreadsheet of videos: https://tinyurl.com/GFProtestPoliceBrutality

mapped: https://maminian.github.io/brutality-map

mookieproof, Friday, 5 June 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link

absolute fucking scholar James Madison dabbing on everyone who ever made fun of the Third Amendment pic.twitter.com/vtC8vmrNQy

— GLADIO Nation (@SchrafftVortex) June 5, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 June 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

NYPD Irish Nazi commish Shea has to go. Beautify NYC: off the assaulting pigs.

https://gothamist.com/news/live-protest-updates-june-4

Two Gothamist / WNYC reporters just detailed nightly cop assaults on protestors, can't find radio link though.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 June 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

Indianapolis:

DON'T LOOK AWAY.

The cop groped her and when she tried to break away, she was beaten while standing still.

THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO CRUSH DISSENT LIKE A DICTATORSHIPpic.twitter.com/j4Kzei2INx

— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) June 4, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 June 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

What a read:

Policing experts say officers usually avoid punishment for a variety of reasons.

There's the fact that in many jurisdictions, police officers — sometimes from other agencies — are responsible for investigating the actions of other police officers. That arrangement can lead to a situation where officers try to protect one another, according to Laurie Robinson, who co-chaired the White House Task Force on 21st Century Policing that was established in the wake of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014.

"There is a sense of, 'We're out here doing a tough job and we protect our own,’" Robinson said. The decision to charge officers with crimes then falls on local prosecutors. Clark Neily, who runs the criminal justice program at the libertarian Cato Institute, said that arrangement creates an immediate conflict of interest since prosecutors rely on police officers every day to build their cases. That "near-zero accountability policy," Neily said, leads to few criminal prosecutions.

"Those are extraordinarily rare and only happen when there's a viral video that makes it politically impossible to not respond," Neily said.

Even civil courts are rarely an option.

In recent decades, the Supreme Court established, on its own, the "qualified immunity" doctrine that lets police officers off the hook unless their behavior violated "clearly established" laws or constitutional rights. Under the doctrine, a lawsuit against a police officer has to show that a court has already ruled against the specific actions the officer is accused of.

"If George Floyd’s family sues the police officer who killed him, what they’ll need to do is find a case in the 8th Circuit Court where a police officer jammed his knee against the cervical spine of an unresponsive person for nine minutes until the person died," Neily said. "If they can’t find a case with those exact characteristics, their case is going to get thrown out."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 June 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

POLICE OFFICER TELLS PROUD BOYS TO HIDE INSIDE BUILDING BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO TEAR GAS PROTESTERS. THE OFFICER SAID HE WAS WARNING THEM "DISCRETELY" BECAUSE HE DIDNT WANT PROTESTERS TO SEE POLICE "PLAY FAVORITES."#BLUEFALL #PoliceBrutalityPandemic #PoliceBrutality pic.twitter.com/ri83By2EVy

— SatelliteHeart (@Satellit3Heart) June 5, 2020

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

I'm not surprised

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 5 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

Like, why is that in all-caps? Isn't that behavior the baseline assumption at this point?

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 5 June 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link

What city is that?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 5 June 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

In the comments the poster says it's Salem, Oregon.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 June 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

I think it's more rage-caps.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

de blasio is just completely denying everything on the radio right now

Brian to mayor: can't you make the distinction between looters and peaceful protesters without kettling, arrests, violence, curfew?

de Blasio to @BrianLehrer: "I'm not hearing objectivity in your question."

— Kate Hinds (@katehinds) June 5, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 5 June 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

God, that video sets the gun-control part of me at war with the left should arm itself part of me, so bad.

Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

meanwhile Erick Erickson has a monthly meeting w/his conscience:

Are any of you people who consider yourselves part of the conservative movement and spent two weeks engaged in whataboutism, character assassination, rumor, and innuendo to try to apologize for the McMichaels going to apologize? Do you have anything to say for yourselves?

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 5, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

let the healing begin:

Dermot F. Shea, New York City’s police commissioner, apologized on Thursday for any instances of police misconduct over the past several days.

But, during a brief news conference at Police Headquarters, he also demanded that demonstrators stop insulting and attacking his officers, warning that anti-police rhetoric could lead to continued violence against the people he oversees.

“For there to be calm, there must also be contrition,” Mr. Shea said. “So I am sorry. Sometimes even the best — and the N.Y.P.D. is the goddamned best police department in the country — but sometimes even the best fall down.”

He added: “So for our part in the damage to civility, for our part in racial bias, in excessive force, unacceptable behavior, unacceptable language and many other mistakes, we are human. I am sorry. Are you?”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

"sorry for our racial bias, excessive force and unacceptable behavior; now will you please say you're sorry for insulting us?"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

"if you wouldn't call me names I wouldn't have to hit you"

defund them all

sleeve, Friday, 5 June 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

I am sorry. Are you?

Melania's got a new jacket to wear

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

even the best fall down sometimes

contorted filbert (harbl), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

our behavior is unacceptable. are you sorry too?

Karl Malone, Friday, 5 June 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

oh damn if y'all are so human maybe you shouldn't be a privileged class of totalitarian bullies

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

Shea is such a stompable fucking potato

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

Everybody send bags of shit to his house

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

I'm talking millions

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

we are sorry for beating you if you are sorry for complaining about us beating you

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

"stompable fucking potato" ❤️❤️❤️❤️ classic Morbsian wordplay that's great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

NYPD last night summarized, look at em all

https://twitter.com/jangelooff

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Threatening bystanders with arrest. “alright who wants to go to jail tonight?” pic.twitter.com/cOJYXp3UF6

— Jake Offenhartz (@jangelooff) June 5, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

Wow, it’s done! New “Black Lives Matter” Mural painted in #WashingtonDC on road to White House (16th St.)

They started at 3:00 am & just finished. Mayor Bowser approved it: pic.twitter.com/kqmknUOaDR

— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) June 5, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 June 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

It’s not a mural if it’s not on a mure!

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/opinion/police-riots.html

Jamelle Bouie opinion piece at NYT - "The Police Are Rioting. We Need to Talk About It."

Doctor Casino, Friday, 5 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

muriel bowser's unmured mural

contorted filbert (harbl), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

The shit being pulled by DiBlasio and the NYPD is fucking enraging.

Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

haha, but also fuck these guys

L.A.’s police union is decidedly *not pleased* with what Mayor Garcetti said in the @latimes pic.twitter.com/YZLpjneLAZ

— Emily Alpert Reyes (@AlpertReyes) June 5, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 5 June 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

I’ve been thinking a lot about how the police response to attempts at reform might resemble police abolition.

JoeStork, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link


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