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a better analogy is that cops are like guns, ostensibly for self-defense but end up killing/maiming a lot of ppl in the process and also fascists love them

I know what I need my fridge for. I don’t believe I need the cops for anything, and if I’ve been unwittingly relying on them for a certain amount of comfort I’ll give up the comfort.

Isn't that thinking of things a little too anecdotally? Also are you libertarian?

I mean I didn’t come up with the analogy

I’m just drawing contrasts between cops and refrigerators

I was ignoring the fridge analogy with those questions.

i feel a john oliver bit coming on

"I don’t believe I need the cops for anything, and if I’ve been unwittingly relying on them for a certain amount of comfort I’ll give up the comfort."

Was referring to that.

my post is only valid in consideration of the refrigerator analogy, I decline to answer follow-up questions

I'm not a libertarian tho, god forbid

Yeah, the anecdotal appeals are really not working for me at all. 'I've personally never had to rely on the cops for anything so they're useless.' 'I've personally had nothing but negative interactions with cops so they're pointless.' On an emotional level, I'm with you. On a rhetorical level, they can be immediately countered by anecdotes from those who have been helped by or had largely-positive experiences with police. Anecdotes are not a basis for radically changing policy.

Pretty sure the quote I isolated stands regardless of your fridge feelings. But if you don't want to engage, that's "cool" I guess.

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I don't owe you jack!

I just didn't like your analogy

I hate cops, counterfactuals, and stupid analogies in that order

Like the stats out of Minneapolis make a compelling case for showing those fuckers the door. They back up the anecdotes.

There are a lot of differences between fridges and cops, don't get me wrong

But whenever I look up and see a fridge it's usually white. Just saying

Here's an uncool conservative belief (small 'c', pub bore variety): My dad remembers not having a fridge, as a boy. And he turned out okay!

Nah silby I honestly wasn't going for passive aggressive I was just making the lowest effort fridge pun imaginable.

will post to puns that you had missed thread

In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by three separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime; the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders; and the refrigerators that store the creamers the other two groups need for their coffee. These are their stories.

DUN DUN

DA walks into precinct kitchen with detective
"Did you ever find out who was stealing our lunch?"
"Nope; it's a cold case"
[opens almost empty fridge, stares at empty shelves]
"The case may be cold, but my missing hoagie?"
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Thread Ban Silby

From where??? This thread?

do I need to write 1000 words as to why you should be banned from this thread, bro?

I’ll be honest with you I usually don’t check what thread I’m posting in

just be like a fridge, and chill on the cool progressive beliefs in this thread

I’m very conservative compared to my friend who is an avowed Marxist-Leninist, whatever that means

yeah we all have cooler more radical friends ... hi-five!

I’ll be honest with you I usually don’t check what thread I’m posting in

there is only one thread, i'm on the same page. literally

i love the afl

(american football league)

My uncool conservative belief on abolish is that it seems crazy and scary, so probably should do it and see what happens.

(i know im late but) the argument that the 'defund the police' slogan is going to backfire on convincing moderates feels like really foolhardy logic considering the people who have been advocating for "defund the police" -- IE mainline organizations from the movement like Black Lives Matter itself -- are the ones who have, very successfully, moved the overton window now to the place that it is, where people are even debating or considering the idea.

"Do you support or oppose (X)"

Defunding Police:
Support: 28%
Oppose: 58%

Redirecting Police Funding To Communities:
Support: 43%
Oppose: 42%

Morning Consult / June 14, 2020 / n=1987 / Online

— Polling USA (@USA_Polling) June 17, 2020

This poll shows nearly a 1/3rd of Americans actually support "defunding the police," and the number rises to nearly half if you change the wording to imply the definition of "defunding the police."

The movement has done an incredible job of mainstreaming, over an incredibly short time, a concept that seemed hopelessly radical like, a month ago. And now it's getting backseat driver advice on how to more compellingly make the case?

Day after day new stories about people being killed & the police having zero repercussions come out. The idea that this is a farfetched pipe dream ... i could see the argument if we didn't have police unions operating as dangerous ideological, fascistic entities doxing the mayor of new york's daughter, lying to the public, protecting actual murderers; if we didn't have a government in place that was bordering on fascistic itself. But the left finally has some real purchase on the discourse & in the streets & we're second guessing that leadership? seems to me it's doing a lot better at making change happen than these scared suggestions that if we just say "reform the police" it will somehow end up w/ better results...

I dont really get the point, I guess, of being this kind of cynical, message-oriented moderate when you're facing ppl who are just repeating outright lies ... you have to tell the truth.

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I know it's sexist, but people in Aubrey Huff's twitter replies who assume he's a woman will always be a solid source of humor to me.

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― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:34 AM (thirteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Do you have something to say tracer

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D-40 i think the gif speaks for itself. imagine me giving you that look.

hudson yards represents a terrible moment in the development of NYC and I hope things go in a different direction

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, June 19, 2020 12:35 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

My uncool conservative belief: Hudson Yards is awesome and good

what do you like abou it?

cancel eephus

1. no one gets "cancelled" on the uncool conservative beliefs thread -- unless someone makes a solid case for the uncool conservativeness of cancel culture
2. i am banning the use of the phrase "overton window" from this thread. fair warning.

even pushing back against an unpopular conservative opinion is not in the spirit of this thread imo

nah D-40's post is fine -- just no more overton windows

guys i was joking

<3

to be clear I wasn't pushing back w/ my question, just trying to tease out the reasoning

i try to force myself into an open mind for even the most controversial opionion but am stymied thinking of a single redeeming quality to Hudson Yards...so...help