Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

looool esby

??? If I expected something to happen I wouldn’t be hoping for it.

I hope I never die but I don’t expect that at all!

What do words even mean

just don't think fantasies about political enemies dying are worth it

Can we maybe not do "Hilldawg" please?

You may not mean it this way but it feels uncomfortably reminiscent of the Limbaugh Chelsea slur.

amazed how people on ilx hope for/count on death. can understand the wish, but people don't die because you want them to

― Dan S, Sunday, June 7, 2020 9:28 PM bookmarkflaglink

well then I know one door-to-door salesman that is going to be getting an extremely strongly worded letter

irl giggle

i guess we've moved on, but imo biden is not exhibiting signs of cognitive decline. i've listened to him do long interviews and he sounds like a person who's still dealing with the effects of a lifelong stutter, not a person who's developing dementia. as with trump, i think diagnosing someone from a distance is not a great idea.

That's a fair point

assigning diagnoses to Trump from the DSM-5 is a parlor game which tends to irritate most genuine psychiatrists. diagnosing Trump as a wretched specimen of humanity does not require any medical training, medical degree, or familiarity with the DSM-5.

someone reanimated him, and that person owes us an explanation

4, 8 12 years ago Biden didn't make it to the midpoint of a sentence and then mumble to the finish

ah, the super-articulate version of Joe Biden, who never stumbled mid-sentence, no matter how intricate the thought or its expression; I remember it well!!

I also am susceptible to implanted memories.

there was an entire column in slate dedicated to "bidenisms"

Plagiarizing British politicians is not quite the same thing as mumbling incoherently.

"Shoot 'em in the leg" isn't a sign of cognitive decline - that's just a sign that Biden's a piece of shit.

Being asked pretty much any question off the cuff and being unable to answer coherently, OTOH.

That's why I never found the stuttering explanation convincing; maybe I've forgotten, but it seemed to appear all of a sudden. The gaffes he's famous for were for what he said, not how he said it.

But as I said earlier--I know middle ground is not made for this thread--he's been better the last two or three times I've seen him.

milo, you seem happiest when posting the broadest possible negative characterizations and generalizations about Joe Biden, so far be it from me to suggest you should ever deprive yourself of this source of happiness. but wouldn't it be nice if, from time to time, you posted something to this thread that showed some depth or discernment, or even just a trace of novelty, as opposed to "Biden is a POS" over and over? it would inject a bit of variety into your contributions, differentiate you from those vile 'bots' that seem to be such a problem, and perhaps make you look like less of an ass.

FARTS

there, that's my levity for the day. it's 1:13 am so see u in 24 hours

wouldn't it be nice if, from time to time, you posted something to this thread that showed some depth or discernment

This is a thread about Joe Biden, not someone of actual value to the world.

re: biden's stutter, i think this article does a good job of explaining how the disorder affects a person in different situations, which i think is the reason biden comes across well in some settings (usually one-on-one interviews) and seems to struggle in others (like debates):

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-stutter-explains-lot-about-how-he-speaks-i-should-knowi-have-one-too-opinion-1493176

This is a thread about Joe Biden, not someone of actual value to the world.

Went right back to your happy place, I see.

Do you want him to change his mind and post that joe Biden is actually good, what would you be posting about if milo weren’t here? Probably not Joe Biden!

it's actually spelled FARTZ

i know what will win everyone over

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/07/colin-powell-endorses-joe-biden-for-us-president

When a war criminal is deeply troubled, yikes...

I searched through many pages of Google results for "joe biden stutter," and they all seemed to date from 2019 beyond (and most had to do with something stupid Sarah Sanders said). But eventually I came across this, which reproduces a letter from 1994:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/del-man-tweets-joe-biden-letter-stuttering-article-1.2279540

So it seems to be something he overcame, and that has returned later in life. I don't remember a single reference to it myself during his VP years, but that letter is the first thing I've come across that provides a reasonable explanation.

you read this, i assume:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

Do you want him to change his mind and post that joe Biden is actually good, what would you be posting about if milo weren’t here? Probably not Joe Biden!

It brings Aimless great happiness to tell someone in the "Joe Biden sucks" thread to not vent about Joe Biden sucking. We can hope that he would find someone else in the "Joe Biden sucks" thread to scold for the way in which they type about Joe Biden sucking, in order to maintain that happiness.

(Or he could go to the "The Beatles can fuck off" thread and suggest that Noodle Vague tell the Beatles, instead, to fuck on. Fuck on, sweet Ringo! Thrust away, in reliable rhythm.)

4/4 pump chump

listen leave ringo out of this

i think it’s fair to say that one thing we can all agree on is that we want the doddering centrist skeleton to win

Be cooler if he died so that someone who didn't give Strom Thurmond's eulogy could possibly be President.

wow some of you appear to have already forgotten the debates, where time after time Biden would just start firehosing non sequiturs at top volume

he's *obviously* suffering from mental decline that has nothing to do with his stutter, not sure why ppl here are so hellbent on denying this. Who cares? He's not the first candidate for president we're catching on the downturn.

I sincerely hope he and Trump just don’t debate, it’s going to be such a fucking shitshow for all parties

Biden speaking extemporaneously on police abolition... that'll be sumthin, eh?

the only thing worse than watching these two cadavers spout gibberish at each other for two hours will be the pundits who will inevitably analyze it like Lincoln-Douglas afterwards.

It brings Aimless great happiness to tell someone in the "Joe Biden sucks" thread to not vent about Joe Biden sucking. We can hope that he would find someone else in the "Joe Biden sucks" thread to scold for the way in which they type about Joe Biden sucking, in order to maintain that happiness.

This is the one and only Joe Biden thread. What makes you think it's the "Joe Biden sucks" thread? The Citibank reference in the thread title?

I posted the full story in the politics thread, but this tidbit is innaresting:

Biden's voters have renewed their enthusiasm since the last CNN poll on that question in April. While just 50% were extremely or very enthusiastic then, 69% say the same now. Overall, 53% of Democrats now call themselves "extremely" enthusiastic about voting, erasing a gap with Republicans which had grown as large as 13 points in March.

Those behind Biden, though, are largely expressing opposition to Trump (60%) over support for Biden (37%). That result is not uniform, though. Biden's black supporters are more likely than his white backers to say their vote is a nod of support (52% among black Biden voters vs. 33% among whites), and the older voters behind him are likewise more apt to say they are for Biden (51% among Biden voters age 65 or older) than against the president (47%). Among Biden supporters under age 50, about two-thirds say their support is to express opposition to Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/cnn-poll-trump-biden-chaotic-week/index.html

That sounds about right to me.

you read this, i assume:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

I haven't, no. I was more interested in finding something that dated earlier--and I did. I will read it, though.

Any Biden thread will become a "Biden sucks" thread.

This is the thread where I say "I just gave Joe Biden's campaign some money"

xp -- as someone who actually was treated for speech impediments growing up (not stuttering, though) they're not something I "overcame" but something that I more or less have to consciously think about every time I speak. (actually had that conversation recently: "so you have to, like, consciously monitor the way your voice sounds?" "pretty much all the time, yes." "are you doing it right now?" "...yes?" like it was some kind of ongoing deception.)

so, going by the profiles linked here, the same thing seems likely to be going on, with the same explanations. I can't believe I'm defending biden here but this kind of thing, like so much, really reveals what people actually think and how they judge people, and just don't say out loud unless the Bad Person does it

they're not something I "overcame" but something that I more or less have to consciously think about every time I speak

Really, wasn't trying to be insensitive. All I meant was that I had no memory at all of him stuttering during his eight years as VP.

Thirty years ago, brought on by the enormous anxiety of being back in school at teacher's college, I went through a few months where I was misspeaking almost every time I spoke. Very strange, and it definitely feeds on itself. Eventually it just went away.

this wasn't in reference to you, necessarily, but the implication that he's faking it or making it up to seem more sympathetic

what speech impediment is it that accounts for this, which I know we've all heard/read a hunmdred times but jfc

“Oh and by the way, I’d sit on the stand and it’d get hot, and I got a lot, I got hairy legs, that turned, that turned, um, blond in the sun. And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down, so it was straight, then watch the hair come back up again. They’d look at it. So I learned about roaches, I learned about kids jumping on my lap. And I’ve loved kids jumping on my lap.”

that kind of stutter where you lie about getting arrested in Soweto

This is the one and only Joe Biden thread. What makes you think it's the "Joe Biden sucks" thread? The Citibank reference in the thread title?

― jaymc, Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:17 AM (three hours ago)

the "Joe Biden rules" thread is over here

this one is also available: The greatest public service Biden ever performed was treating Ryan like a cum rag

The Citibank reference in the thread title? -well, sure, but also the tone and content of the entire initial discussion, and of every revive in the fourteen years since.

he's *obviously* suffering from mental decline that has nothing to do with his stutter, not sure why ppl here are so hellbent on denying this. Who cares? He's not the first candidate for president we're catching on the downturn.

― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, June 8, 2020 10:00 PM (yesterday)

Nobody cares in terms of having to make a choice in a shittily rigged two-party system; that's foregone. In terms of wishing that a mentally-declining, incompetent, racist, stooge for business with anger control issues would be replaced as president with somebody who does not exhibit any of those tendencies, it's something to post frustratedly about, ahead of people having to frustratedly vote for him.

Also, the last two or three "on the downturn" presidents might have given some reason for caution, idk