Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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there is/will be plenty of ppl who are like "abolish ICE? sure. abolish the police?? too scary!", I suspect

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 03:11 (three years ago) link

Maybe Biden can say 'demilitarize the police' indirectly by saying: 'What we need is to go back to the old community policing ... when you saw a cop on the corner and you asked him the way to the candy store. That kind of police officer, the fellow who salutes the old ladies and checks in on the barber - that's what we've got to get back to in our country'.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

He already called for the police to shoot me this week.

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link

I’ve never been happier that I don’t live in a “swing” state

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

Maybe Biden can say 'demilitarize the police' indirectly by saying: 'What we need is to go back to the old community policing ... when you saw a cop on the corner and you asked him the way to the candy store. That kind of police officer, the fellow who salutes the old ladies and checks in on the barber - that's what we've got to get back to in our country'.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, June 9, 2020 3:41 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

even better, let's demilitarize the police by giving them an extra $300 million!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/10/biden-root-out-systemic-racism-not-just-divisive-trump-talk-column/5327631002/

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

Enough to get every police officer a set of knuckledusters with Community on one and Policing on the other.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

not that I expected much but that is remarkably, offensively feeble. It's like he skimmed the first chapter of Vitale's book and wrote down all the headings without reading the text

dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

How do you work up the gall to even mention body cameras as a solution right now?

dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

they need the extra money to learn to shoot people in the leg

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

guys, please, no negative talk about Joe Biden in this thread

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

it's unseemly

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

I have nothing left pic.twitter.com/wDiqJk2T9d

— The Other Beth, who hates all of you (@BethLynch2020) June 11, 2020

seems fine

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 June 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

he sounds tired. a bit of Adderall might perk him up.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 11 June 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

did someone in their 50s throw panties at him from the audience

j., Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

I believe that was unperson

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

Otoh, this seems pretty cogent to me, but yes, they are exactly the same

Holy crap, Biden almost said racist f**ks just at his presser.

What a time to be alive! pic.twitter.com/Fiu0STimm7

— Danny Deraney (@DannyDeraney) June 11, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

lol

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

Sorry, what was the first thing?

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

don't think Beth Lynch is someone to listen to tbh

Dan S, Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

uh so he told Trevor Noah that the military can take Trump out of the WH in January

obv a lurker

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

don't think Beth Lynch is someone to listen to tbh

Did she create the video?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

Like deepfake, I mean.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

yeah....what?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

that said, whoever made it look like he said this is a wizard

Profound! pic.twitter.com/3brOitRQUB

— Nate's Liver - Commentary (@SilERabbit) June 11, 2020

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

Statesmanlike.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

It's probably not feasible to have a teleprompter in front of him at all times but maybe he could wear a monocle that's actually a little LCD screen for his staff to write for him on the fly?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

random 10 second clips are not very convincing of anything

Dan S, Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

what abt a 5 minute clip where he does that^ right in the middle

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

don't know how that's some kind of evidence that he's unfit

Dan S, Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

you're right he's clearly sharp as a tack, anybody can see it

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

it doesn't seem all that unusual to me tbh

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

Biden seems unaware of any pro-slavery presidents in that first clip

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

and "the first major massacre of black wall street years ago" is a reference to tulsa not juneteenth

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

I think I've been reasonably critical of Biden's meanderings, but that particular 10 seconds out of context doesn't seem like a big deal to me. A friend's been recording some recent Zooms of ours, and that's par for the course with me three or four times every time we talk. (Which may, of course, signal concerns about me.)

clemenza, Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

it was fumbling but not egregious

a lot of you have such harsh opinions, and have more fortitude than I can even imagine

Dan S, Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

The point is that that clip is not the sole evidence of his decline, it happens every time he opens his mouth without someone writing for him.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

It’s amazing that his constant lying about important shit just gets glossed over because he’s so clearly on the verge of not being competent to stand trial.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 11 June 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

but that clip is not evidence of his decline at all

Dan S, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

that clip is not evidence of his decline at all

I believe the usual term for this sort of mental process is confirmation bias. we all do it. milo is utterly convinced of Biden's unfitness for the presidency. a host of reasons underlie this conviction, but the primary reason seems to be Biden's politics. that's fair enough. their politics are very incompatible.

but from that starting point of political disagreement, milo seems to have become primed to see unfitness in Biden's every deed or word. If Biden is not sharp in a ten second clip it confirms his dementia. the clip doesn't need to prove his dementia, only confirm what milo was highly disposed to see, then saw, and now he sees confirmation of it constantly.

nobody's going to talk him out of that. I wouldn't bother trying.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

the opposite could be said of the objections to this charaterization—that if Biden was a Republican his mental shortcomings would be loudly called out itt

anyway it's not "a ten second clip"...it's dozens and dozens of clips plus his debate appearances that clearly indicate he doesn't think very clearly, like if you really can't tell the difference in cognition btw this guy and most any candidate for president of the past half centurty (save maybe 2nd term Reagan) I really have no idea what you are watching

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

haven't seen this latest clip yet but for me it's more the gap btwn 1990s / early aughts biden and the guy we see now

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

In some ways, the discussion itself is the problem. It's probably not going away if--fair or unfair--such clips continue to exist. Some people will pounce on everything, some people will excuse everything, some will say, like I just did, "Well, this one's bad, this other one's taken out of context." It feeds on itself, and it's a distraction.

clemenza, Friday, 12 June 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

Maybe "rationalize" instead of "excuse."

clemenza, Friday, 12 June 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

milo I don't think any of that is true

Dan S, Friday, 12 June 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

sorry, confused hadrian for milo

hadrian...

Dan S, Friday, 12 June 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

ok I'm game...which party nominees of the past half-century +/- do you think appeared to have poorer mental acuity than this one?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

he's just very slow and often confused. I hope he wins.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

sorry, confused hadrian for milo


it's alright Dan I know you have a bad stutter :)

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link

ok I'm game...which party nominees of the past half-century +/- do you think appeared to have poorer mental acuity than this one?

― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, June 11, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTtI3D6lqk

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link

I mentioned him as the one exception^

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link


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