Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7EF8wVxBVhG?si=QjyP3LJkSjigsmyKSR-Evw

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

and

2) Only very subtle binaural flourishes

but it's pretty easy to just whack this on while working. However I do sort of wonder if this is the audio equivalent of Huel.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

Spotify fueling a barely music renaissance

(and I'm here for it)

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

I came across a Delta Wave Deep Sleep one when I was searching for ambient playlists a week or two ago

Seemed an odd mix of some ambient sounding tracks and others that were just bass hums xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

there are so many incredible ambient records from the 90s that don't exist on spotify.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

Yes. I wonder how hard it would be for a label to get some older releases on these popular focus/work/study playlists.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

It doesn't even seem to be a genre on there - just 'ambient sounds' so gets lumped in with all the 'pink noise' and 'whale sounds' shit.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

if glenn doesn't have a "pink noise and whale sounds" category already...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

Can anyone (glenn?) explain how this happens

https://open.spotify.com/track/5aUf13PE8XmentDXP9zqTC?si=Xyu7FEV1T6O2wifx23iGug

It's supposed to be Slow Motion by SFF but about 47 seconds in it starts playing Babin by Josky Kiambukuta & Youlou Mabiala O_o

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7EF8wVxBVhG?si=QjyP3LJkSjigsmyKSR-Evw

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

Aren't "binaural beats" "beats" in the sense of a rhythmic interference pattern between frequencies? Like when you're tuning a stringed instrument against another string and you get it very close and you can hear a tremolo-like "beating" effect which speeds up or slows down as you turn the tuning peg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_%28acoustics%29

But yeah, it's a confusing name for them as a playlist on a music site.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

Schicke Führs Fröhling turning into Youlou Mabiala is bizarre. The two albums come from the same licensor, so I guess my only theory involves a distracted label intern trying to do too many uploads at once. I'll ask our people to ask their people to give it another try!

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

As for "binaural", you can find LOTS more here: http://everynoise.com/engenremap-binaural.html

and you can see the whole genre-space reordered relative to binaural here: http://everynoise.com/everynoise1d.cgi?root=binaural&scope=all

Not enough individual whale-song artists to make a "whale" genre yet.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Nice one glenn xp

The correct version of Slow Motion appears on their 2018 Collected Works LP so I added that to the playlist I was making instead

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

Not enough individual whale-song artists to make a "whale" genre yet.

Moby, Orca, Ambergris, Dolphin....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2up7su7CeMU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

Am I crazy or is there no shuffle play option anymore on the desktop UI?

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

lol, never mind, I'm a dummy. I had a podcast still paused as my currently playing track and the shuffle option only appears when you're playing music.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

Latest Test Pressing lockdown playlist, from Stevie Kotey, is an absolute peach.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1iDtw4YCHWv9Izp5pBrqEo?si=ySgxH6U7RB2iWjZ7djH2BQ

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

First time I’ve ever come across something where the titles are shifted by one from the song that is playing: https://open.spotify.com/album/4WV3kUWmeCpq7I4bM6BM4J?si=cspEkw1LTq-1nx5rmcKBig

Soft Mutation Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah, looks like it's probably wrong at the source. I'll get a message passed along to the licensor to see if they will fix it. Thanks!

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

If you have autoplay on is there any way to stop it playing certain tracks/artists? When we play wheels on the bus it follows it up with kids bible songs :/

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

We get cutesy ukelele versions of popular classics :(

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 10:59 (three years ago) link

No, there's no current way to influence autoplay, and you're not the first person to discover that the current algorithm often matches non-religious kids songs with religious kids songs. I've looked at the listening patterns for these, and they basically make sense: those songs share a LOT of listeners, and it's not simple to tell from the numbers that this is because religious-kids-music audiences are happy to hear "Wheels on the Bus" but non-religious-kids-music-audiences are not as happy to hear bible songs.

Hopefully we'll eventually get artist/song banning working ubiquitously across all parts of the app, which will then give you the ability to get rid of individual things you don't want, but if we don't solve the underlying problem, banning the bible tracks you're hearing is likely to just get you different bible tracks. And solving the underlying problem means modeling the asymmetry of religious-music listening, which is a serious problem in both cultural and technical terms. It's doable, we've done similar efforts for Christmas music and kids music in general. But that's how I know it's hard.

My practical recommendation is to use the songs you LIKE from Autoplay to build a playlist, and then use the Recommended Songs at the bottom of that playlist to fill it out with more things you like or at least tolerate, and then turn Autoplay off and go with your own longer list.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

Is the autoplay the 'Radio based on' type thing that starts when you get to the end of a playlist?

If so have nothing but praise for it as have made some fantastic discoveries listening to it

groovypanda, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

It's also a really really useful on smart speakers: just being able to ask for a single track and let it run from there is a lot less fiddly than specifying names of playlists.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

thanks for the info and tips glenn, very informative. i guess the large religious-kids-music user base in the states is also a factor.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

might be easier to be a devout follower for awhile, stopping immediately when the algorithm is fixed

voltmeter said i had potential (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

i thought about exclusively listening to kids religious music for a few weeks then hitting "i don't like this artist" when it starts showing up in discover weekly.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

Ugh, I apologize on behalf of the entire software industry for uncontrollable algorithms you're forced to try to game indirectly...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

I was impressed when a ~700 song playlist shuffled from Smiths' "Rubber Ring" into Kenny Chesney's "I Go Back"

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

Ugh, I apologize on behalf of the entire software industry for uncontrollable algorithms you're forced to try to game indirectly...

we suffer, it's true.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:03 (three years ago) link

hey, maybe wrong place to ask, but is there a way to put my music on spotify and just decline any royalties or possibilities of monetary compensation?

(not that i have any delusions of making money, i just 100% don't care about getting any money from the music i make. just want to make it available on another platform besides bandcamp.)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 19 June 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

also it's 1000% bee ess that aaliyah's second and third albums aren't available. that's classic material. never should have traded those. i had the self-titled on double vinyl, too. regrets.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 19 June 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

OneRPM has a free plan, that's what I use for my own music.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

Discographies of the surf rock band and afro-jazz group both named the Pyramids are mixed together

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

disappearance of “appears on” listings is a bummer

brimstead, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

seriously though. Glenn? Help!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

I still see "appears on" listings...is this on a newer version of the desktop app that I don't have yet?

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's not on my desktop.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

The Appears On thing is a temporary casualty of a complicated situation I can't get into, but it will come back. Nobody wants it gone.

I reported the Pyramids page, thanks. It should get cleaned up in a day or two.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

thanks for that update. i really would hate to see the "appears on" feature go away permanently, it seriously hobbles usability.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

The badge that appears on the play button if you have shuffle on: heroic ui move, applause.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

Does it always appear?

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

I see two different buttons a regular play button near the bottom and a shuffle play button that appears closer to the top

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

Hmm maybe it isn't what I thought it was. It's at the top below the album or playlist image - is it just shuffle play then? It does show whether I have shuffle on or off. This is in the app btw.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

Was this a recent update? I don’t see it there.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

version 8.5.65.852 ¯\(°_o)/¯

further investigation confirms it is just shuffle play :(

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

Wondering why the list of releases an artist Appears On stopped appearing in reverse chronological order recently - now seems to be random.

nashwan, Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

see upthread. Glenn keeps reassuring us it will be alright.

The Appears On thing involves issues that have nothing to do with what you're seeing. Hopefully it'll be back soon...

― glenn mcdonald, woensdag 27 mei 2020 2:16 bookmarkflaglink

The Appears On thing is a temporary casualty of a complicated situation I can't get into, but it will come back. Nobody wants it gone.

― glenn mcdonald, donderdag 2 juli 2020 21:30 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe it's dependent on Trump being voted out of office in November?

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Saturday, 11 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

I said it would be back, and it is. The sort order is different now, that part is correct. There may be further developments there, eventually, but sorting by popularity is what allowed the feature to be reenabled...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

Okay Glenn, now you’ve got me confused (and worried). The reordering/sorting by popularity instead of (reverse) chronology was precisely the issue longneck and I complained about back in May. You then said in reply this was a temporary issue.
The actual disappearance of the feature only came up here last week ( I never experienced it myself). So now you’re saying the sorting by popularity is a permanent thing? That’s... very bad news, for the reasons outlined back in May.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link


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