Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

yeah....what?

that said, whoever made it look like he said this is a wizard

Profound! pic.twitter.com/3brOitRQUB

— Nate's Liver - Commentary (@SilERabbit) June 11, 2020

Statesmanlike.

It's probably not feasible to have a teleprompter in front of him at all times but maybe he could wear a monocle that's actually a little LCD screen for his staff to write for him on the fly?

random 10 second clips are not very convincing of anything

what abt a 5 minute clip where he does that^ right in the middle

don't know how that's some kind of evidence that he's unfit

you're right he's clearly sharp as a tack, anybody can see it

it doesn't seem all that unusual to me tbh

Biden seems unaware of any pro-slavery presidents in that first clip

and "the first major massacre of black wall street years ago" is a reference to tulsa not juneteenth

I think I've been reasonably critical of Biden's meanderings, but that particular 10 seconds out of context doesn't seem like a big deal to me. A friend's been recording some recent Zooms of ours, and that's par for the course with me three or four times every time we talk. (Which may, of course, signal concerns about me.)

it was fumbling but not egregious

a lot of you have such harsh opinions, and have more fortitude than I can even imagine

The point is that that clip is not the sole evidence of his decline, it happens every time he opens his mouth without someone writing for him.

It’s amazing that his constant lying about important shit just gets glossed over because he’s so clearly on the verge of not being competent to stand trial.

but that clip is not evidence of his decline at all

that clip is not evidence of his decline at all

I believe the usual term for this sort of mental process is confirmation bias. we all do it. milo is utterly convinced of Biden's unfitness for the presidency. a host of reasons underlie this conviction, but the primary reason seems to be Biden's politics. that's fair enough. their politics are very incompatible.

but from that starting point of political disagreement, milo seems to have become primed to see unfitness in Biden's every deed or word. If Biden is not sharp in a ten second clip it confirms his dementia. the clip doesn't need to prove his dementia, only confirm what milo was highly disposed to see, then saw, and now he sees confirmation of it constantly.

nobody's going to talk him out of that. I wouldn't bother trying.

the opposite could be said of the objections to this charaterization—that if Biden was a Republican his mental shortcomings would be loudly called out itt

anyway it's not "a ten second clip"...it's dozens and dozens of clips plus his debate appearances that clearly indicate he doesn't think very clearly, like if you really can't tell the difference in cognition btw this guy and most any candidate for president of the past half centurty (save maybe 2nd term Reagan) I really have no idea what you are watching

haven't seen this latest clip yet but for me it's more the gap btwn 1990s / early aughts biden and the guy we see now

In some ways, the discussion itself is the problem. It's probably not going away if--fair or unfair--such clips continue to exist. Some people will pounce on everything, some people will excuse everything, some will say, like I just did, "Well, this one's bad, this other one's taken out of context." It feeds on itself, and it's a distraction.

Maybe "rationalize" instead of "excuse."

milo I don't think any of that is true

sorry, confused hadrian for milo

hadrian...

ok I'm game...which party nominees of the past half-century +/- do you think appeared to have poorer mental acuity than this one?

he's just very slow and often confused. I hope he wins.

sorry, confused hadrian for milo

ok I'm game...which party nominees of the past half-century +/- do you think appeared to have poorer mental acuity than this one?

― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, June 11, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTtI3D6lqk

I mentioned him as the one exception^

well, see, we do have a thing in the Oval Office now

it's alright Dan I know you have a bad stutter :)

I'm not crazy about someone as old as him but that doesn't mean he has poor mental acuity

actually who knows, dependeing on the politics of his VP/Chief of Staff/NatSec advisor etc., maybe we should be grateful to have this version of Biden

xpost ok but you aren't answering

none in our party I guess, is that the answer?

dick move, smiley or no

Dan if you actually took offense I'll happily apologize but until then I will continue to think it was funny

xp I think you are correct, yes

I didn't take offense :)

I'm just not sure what you want to all want to happen, do you want Trump to win again and destroy our country forever?

Should Joe Biden or Donald Trump survive til November, we want Joe Biden to adopt the leftmost policy positions even if he can't physically sign the executive orders or stand up without Jill mumbling, "We're doing everything we can."

[anti-American screed redacted]

yes we all want Trump to win, how could a clip of Joe Biden bumbling possibly mean anything else

"Reagan and Trump were also sundowning" is not the strongest argument for Biden.

I just want a path back to normal

Robert Mitchum + Deborah Kerr are, though.

Like, even from a right-wing POV, Reagan's second and Trump's first term were not terribly successful. You'd probably want to aim higher for a one-termer like Biden.

I just want a path back to normal

Shades of the "America is ALREADY great" winning strategy.

no just tired of all of this

since he's won the nomination maybe it's time for a new thread

I'm just not sure what you want to all want to happen, do you want Trump to win again and destroy our country forever?

― Dan S, Friday, June 12, 2020 1:55 AM (thirty minutes ago)

given that some of the ppl who never stop reminding us that biden is history's greatest monster have made it clear that they don't plan to vote for him, i think it's safe to conclude that, yes, this is what they want.

If Simon doesn't vote for Biden in November, I'm holding him personally responsible for whatever comes next

posting a clip of a confused Joe Biden is definitely shorthand for History’s Greatest Monster

we all want Joe Biden to defeat Donald Trump, but I guess saying that over and again a million times will my make any difference