man, that kicked my ass.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 June 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
It's really good.
― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Friday, 12 June 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
wow. standing O, Dave.
glad i got to see that today.
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 June 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
this was really good
― Spottie, Friday, 12 June 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
the Ja Rule callback
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 June 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
Damn. Yeah, that was incredible.
― pomenitul, Friday, 12 June 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
The way he keeps coming back to the 8:46 is devastating in highlighting the senseless horror of it all.
― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Friday, 12 June 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
this was really powerfulappreciated that the crowd seemed attentive even though it wasn't necessarily a comedy special
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 June 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
already saw a clip of Don Lemon reacting appreciatively to his little nod in this special. he's glad to be "memorialized" by it and extends an invitation to Dave to come on his show! what a nice guy
Candace Owens probably a little less flattered by the new attention this will bring her via thousands of angry young men curious to find out whether or not she really does have a particularly odorous vagina
― the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 12 June 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
she played it well in her post about it
― Spottie, Friday, 12 June 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
<i>she played it well in her post about it</i>
Really? It reads to me like she's thrilled to get any kind of attention from anybody because it's all she wants in life.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 13 June 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link
That makes her smart like Trump. Attention can be monetized. Even getting justifiably slagged off to a million people can be used to increase your income, assuming you don't mind getting justifiably slagged off to a million people who will start to hate you (but remotely).
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 June 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
I'm watching this again
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
/she played it well in her post about it/Really? It reads to me like she's thrilled to get any kind of attention from anybody because it's all she wants in life.
― Spottie, Saturday, 13 June 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link
It took me all day to watch this in small increments.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 13 June 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link
yeah I still need to get through all of this, it is extremely heavy
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 13 June 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link
that last couple of minutes tying it all together is just... stunning
― Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 June 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link
God damn that was amazing
― frogbs, Saturday, 13 June 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
I really wanna see this due to all the praise but I'm finding it hard to press play due to his callousness towards trans people in the past few years
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 13 June 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
yeah, understandable. it's in a completely different lane, just about his pain and his community's pain.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 13 June 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
of course as soon as i say thathttps://www.vulture.com/2020/06/dave-chappelle-846-is-powerful-but-not-quite-perfect.html
Overnight, an eagle-eyed Twitter user noticed a discrepancy between the closed captioning and the audio and video of the 8:46 performance, which currently lives on Netflix’s comedy channel on YouTube, specifically in the section on Don Lemon. At the 7:45 mark in the audio and video, Chappelle calls the CNN host’s show a “hotbed of reality” with a laugh, takes a sip of his drink, then the camera cuts to the audience and back to him telling the story about being called out on the air for his presumed silence on Minneapolis. The clip posted to Twitter shows a riff in the closed captioning that isn’t present in the video: “Don Lemon is a funny newscaster because he’s clearly gay, but … he’s the anomaly. He’s black and gay, but unlike my other black and gay friends, he’s got this weird self-righteousness …” Then it shows Chappelle preparing to do an impression of the anchor, which tracks with the silly voice he puts on at the 7:48 mark as he begins to recount what Lemon said on the air, which would suggest that a portion of the joke was cut that stayed in the closed captioning. By morning, as the clip spread on Twitter, captioning on 8:46 was disabled. Later in the day it was restored, but the words jump ahead of Chappelle by one line right at the section in question. (Vulture reached out to Netflix and is still awaiting comment.)What happened here? What changed in a week? Is Chappelle just incapable of going 30 minutes onstage without proclaiming that he doesn’t get what makes queer folks tick but suddenly net-savvy enough to know to filter himself now? Or did he pull those lines because he’s beginning to see the light, because it undercuts his message about the chilling consistency of black pain and disenfranchisement across centuries to single out one subdivision of black man for ridicule?
What happened here? What changed in a week? Is Chappelle just incapable of going 30 minutes onstage without proclaiming that he doesn’t get what makes queer folks tick but suddenly net-savvy enough to know to filter himself now? Or did he pull those lines because he’s beginning to see the light, because it undercuts his message about the chilling consistency of black pain and disenfranchisement across centuries to single out one subdivision of black man for ridicule?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
so the bieest problem with it is something that didn't make the cut?
we already knew chappelle is shall we say not terribly advanced on these issues
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
I don't begrudge anyone for not engaging w/ him but that complaint is silly season shit imo
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
i didn't think it was that special tbh but a lot of chappelle doesn't really hit for me. as far as lucid anger goes the kimberly jones video really connected with / shook me.
― crystal-brained yogahead (map), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
Will check that out. I thought the Chappelle set was incredible, watched it this morning terribly hungover. They were right to cut that line imo
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
"Is Chappelle just incapable of going 30 minutes onstage without proclaiming that he doesn’t get what makes queer folks tick," is the complaint that seems notable here. It's tremendously powerful stuff otherwise.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
but he did go 30 minutes without doing it. he didn't do that bit
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
oh wait, they're saying they edited the video? hmm. that's different.
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
I initially thought maybe the captioning was written using an advanced written copy of the bit or something.
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 June 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
Is it different really
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
I mean in the context of the article, not so much "does it actually undercut the overarching message of the piece"
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
This felt historic.
On the more superficial side of things, if anyone else was wondering about that pavilion: https://www.dwell.com/home/the-wirrig-pavilion-4ac1055b
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
Ah xp
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
I'd been mostly trying to tune him out recently but I'm very glad I watched that, it really brought the pathos. He's right, I do trust him as an honest voice even if his views have become somewhat regressive.
― locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
That closer though.
He’s shit on lgbt people, but he spends a good portion of the set saying that his pronouncements are not the point, he is just some asshole celeb on stage and the movement is speaking for itself (sorry for inelegant paraphrase) so why keep in a line that will inevitably divert attention to a referendum on the character of Dave Chappelle? It was a good cut to make. Totally understand & support anyone who doesn’t want to give him attention due to hurtful things he’s said in the past obv
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
He’s shit on lgbt people
Yes.
My lukewarm take is that it's enough that he's one of the best speakers on racism in the United States. I don't need him in this or any other moment to be cogent or particularly inspiring on any other topic.
― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
"Is Chappelle just incapable of going 30 minutes onstage without proclaiming that he doesn’t get what makes queer folks tick,"
The misogyny is hard to overlook, too. Still glad I watched this, though.
― Darin, Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
Totally understand & support anyone who doesn’t want to give him attention due to hurtful things he’s said in the past obv
Yep, definitely.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link
yeah that seems fair and accurate
― crystal-brained yogahead (map), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
(Which is to say I agree with cutting the line. It'd distract from the point.)
― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link
Yeah totally agree with the lukewarm take. My instinctive take was that fixating on this one cut line was a little too close to “he was no angel” type arguments but I’m not sure that’s exactly fair. It extremely doesn’t matter what I think of course
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
Why isn’t this Netflix special on Netflix
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
it's a good question. maybe they're worried it'll scare off some subscribers?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
I have no love for netflix, but I assumed it was because putting it on YT means it's free and available to non-subscribers (as other streaming services have done with some content). That said, why not do both? is a valid question
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
I'm guessing they're filming a one-hour special from these Ohio shows, and it doesn't hurt them at all to have this outside the paywall. Chappelle introduces this as less finished than what he usually puts out, whereas a finished special will be the more polished hour.
Part of the astonishing thing about this last week was seeing high production values of an event during quarantine, when we've gotten so used to musician/comedian Zooms from home. (Though last week's Austin fundraiser and John Prine tribute both had similar quality from the Ryman, Antone's, etc., even when the musicians were playing in an empty room.)
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
there was just one camera iirc? cameras have gotten so good that one halfway competent wedding fotog could have filmed it imo
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
there were crowd shots cut in too, so I assume at least one other camera?
― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
yeah there were definitely a few cameras
I'm guessing they're filming a one-hour special from these Ohio shows, and it doesn't hurt them at all to have this outside the paywall.
idk this feels like a one-off thing to me, will all this stuff be topical 3 months down the line? plus it's a half-hour set that's gotten a zillion views already so idk if you can just repackage it again
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
will all this stuff be topical 3 months down the line?
.....yes?
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link