the o/g shitposters iirc
― mark s, Monday, 15 June 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
Thought it was a security thing too. The one surprised me was that Willy Brandt was a pseudonym - and that was definitely to keep out of the clutches of the Nazis.
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Monday, 15 June 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
speaking of Bolsheviks i learned the other day that it means "majority" and Mensheviks means "minority", the names imposed by Lenin after he'd won a vote even though he didn't really have a majority. something very modern feeling about rebranding like that.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 15 June 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
an interesting comparison is how accomplished the Tsarist secret police were at penetrating revolutionary activists compared with how shit they were at making them kowtow to the state and beating the resistance out of them. Like Stalin reminisces about his time in Siberian exile like it was a scout camp and a positive formative period of his life, he had access to a decent library was going on hunting and fishing adventures, it sounded like going on a slightly austere arctic center parcs break next to the gulags of the Soviet era.
― calzino, Monday, 15 June 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link
ha I was about to post that I was 50 years old before I realised that there were TWO Lou Reeds on the cover of New York and then I checked to be sure and THEY'RE ALL LOU REED WTF
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:56 (three years ago) link
Is one of the Lou Reeds in blackface
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 07:17 (three years ago) link
that is a key question but I think we're goodhttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81XV9CoyCoL._SL1425_.jpg
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 08:56 (three years ago) link
Did he ever do I want to be black live though
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link
Boy, did he ever.
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link
Second track on Take No Prisoners
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link
N-word and all.
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link
And yet an image search for Lou Reed blackface comes up empty. What a disappointment
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link
He did tell one journalist at the time that his next album would feature him in blackface holding a watermelon on the cover - subtle as ever.
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link
ā assert (MatthewK), Monday, June 15, 2020 11:56 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
yo this fucked me up
― budo jeru, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link
what i came here to post was that i had always thought the NAS line "sleep is the cousin of death" was (a paraphrase of) shakespeare.
then there was a poll on the best lyrics from that tune and i did some googling and i couldn't find anything and thought maybe he just made it up ?
well, wrong again. turns out it goes way back to:
the Greek gods Hypnos (sleep) and Thanatos (death) who, in the Greek mythology, were brothers
as depicted in this 1874 john william waterhouse paining
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Waterhouse-sleep_and_his_half-brother_death-1874.jpghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_and_his_Half-brother_Death
and also, closer to the NAS lyric, in this line of verse from 16th cent poet thomas sacksville, the earl of dorset:
By him lay heavy Sleep, the cousin of Death
so that's that, then.
― budo jeru, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link
You may also have been thinking of the Shelley line, "How wonderful is Death,/ Death and his brother Sleep!"
― Greetings from CHAZbury Park (Lily Dale), Friday, 19 June 2020 05:42 (three years ago) link
There's 'sleep, death's counterfeit' in Macbeth.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 19 June 2020 07:36 (three years ago) link
oh those are both good, and more likely to have caught my ear.
i wonder, though, had the "sleep / death" thing been floating around in the vernacular ? i can imagine it having neo-protestant moral implications re: laziness / productivity
― budo jeru, Friday, 19 June 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
aye, there's the rub
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
Estragon is French for tarragon
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be tru (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
Good one.
― Rapsputin (Tom D.), Friday, 19 June 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link
Natalie Wood was Russian American - daughter of Russian immigrants, real name Natalia Nikolaevna Zakharenko - though I suppose I hadn't really thought about her ethnicity before.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
well she weren't Puerto Rican that's for darn sure.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
what does that even mean
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
A reference to Maria in West Side Story Iām guessing.
― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
yeah mortified that that might not be obvious
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
lol my bad!
fuckin musicals kill me (and i've even seen that one!)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
lol
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link
The acknowledgment thing at the beginning of US zoom meetings, so presumably physical ones, where the chairman/main speaker acknowledges the native American tribe whose land they are on and where teh physical meeting would be taking place is also being done vby some i Australia.Was wondering how long taht had been going on in terms of the US since I only came across it when dropping in on talks over there. Seems to be something taht is being done at the start of all at least leftist talks, not sure if it is universal.Also not sure what percenatge of people are doing it in Australia but it was being done at teh talk i listened to this morning.
MNow wondering if it is a new thing and if it is being done elsewhere. THough not sure where has teh same kind of history with its indigenous population that is still within recognition of who that indigenous population is. Are there leftists doing it in Israel?& is it a thing in South Africa or anything?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
It's been done in Canada for a while, even by the PM. Idk how to embed Youtube videos but this p much sums up how I feel about it:https://youtu.be/xlG17C19nYo
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
I have actually never seen it in the US.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
I moved to Canada in 2014 and heard my first territorial acknowledgment shortly thereafter. I had never heard one in the US before then, but I tend to see the DAPL protests in 2016 as a turning point for Indigenous rights/issues finally getting some attention in the US, and I've since heard/seen it a few times there. It's de rigueur in Canada now to an at times perfunctory extent (for example, I don't know how meaningful adding it to your automatically generated email signature is), though I am pretty ensconced in academia
― dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
lol that Baroness von Sketch video is excellent, never seen that one
― dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
I worked in a Catholic school that has a land acknowledgment plaque, which I found a little bit sadlol.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
lol @ that sketch.
I've never heard of anyone doing this in Quebec fwiw.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
A year or two ago an old friend asked if I wanted to meet up at a ramen restaurant and it blew my entire fucking mind that ramen is an actual part of Japanese cuisine and not just cheap styrofoam-tasting packet noodles.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
There are some insanely good ones out there too
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
Ramen is the queen of soups
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
The slovenly medieval king of soups is potato leek
ā pomenitul, Wednesday, June 24, 2020 2:17 PM (fifteen minutes ago)
wow really? I really am in a bubble then
― dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
heine and edward milliken both wrote poems called "death and his brother sleep"
i also remember and have mentioned on ilx a book of this same title (or possible "sleep and his brother death") by eric ambler that i remember my dad reading when i was maybe 10, remembering it bcz the title seemed so cool
anyway this doesn't seem to exist (not if written by eric ambler anyway)
it wd have been a thriller, probably spies rather than crime
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
Perhaps another testament to the franco/anglo divide?
xp
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
Never mind, several francophone universities have a 'guide de reconnaissance territoriale' now, which they adopted after their ROC counterparts. I was abroad for a year and a half so this explains that.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/tdsb-indigenous-land-1.3773050
Is this still being done every morning in Toronto schools? Seems like it would become meaninglessly rote pretty quickly.
― jmm, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link
blew my entire fucking mind that ramen
this is a good one
― an, uh, razor of love (sic), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_country btw
― an, uh, razor of love (sic), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
Harry Caray was born Harry Carabina, and was 1/2 Italian
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
Never heard of the indigenous greeting, but I've only lived in two places in the U.S.: The South, where they don't acknowledge anything, and in the Midwest, where they barely acknowledge each other.
― pplains, Thursday, 25 June 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link
The Catholic school I mentioned is actually a French Catholic school.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 June 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link
In Australia pretty much all higher ed institutions "acknowledge country" at the start of all official meetings, that's been standard for ~ 5 years and patchy for ~ 5 before that. The national broadcaster SBS also acknowledges country on their Australian productions including the nightly news, but only in the credits. They also run NITV which is the national Indigenous network (and pretty interesting viewing more often than not).
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 25 June 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link