U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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I didn't delve too far into those but I trust that the fed society upthread saying there were four straight massacres at SCOTUS this morning meant good things all around.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

for roberts and gorusch, is this a signal that theyre concerned abt the legitimacy of the court? like, "ah ha we'll show you who the partisan shills are" while still voting mostly along party lines.

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

Gorsuch is just young enough to have grown up, I assume, around plenty of gays and closeted gays.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

So… he’s alive?

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Ned shared w/me Rod Dreher's wheelbarrow of dung, but this paragraph struck me:

I have heard an argument that Roberts joined the majority in order to retain the right to assign the opinion. If Roberts had joined the other three in the losing dissent, Justice Ginsburg would have written the majority opinion, which would have looked different from what Gorsuch wrote. In other words, the chief justice made a strategic move to protect as much religious liberty as he could in the face of a conservative loss. The logic is: better a 6-3 decision with a conservative justice writing for the majority than a 5-4 decision with a liberal justice doing so. This may be the case; I don’t know. Keep it in mind, though; Roberts might not be the villain many of us social conservatives think he is.

Note the last sentence.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

the real test, of course, is how they will vote in the election :/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

interesting to go back and read this https://www.scotusblog.com/2019/10/argument-analysis-justices-divided-on-federal-protections-for-lgbt-employees/

The outcome of the two cases could hinge on Justice Neil Gorsuch, who at times appeared sympathetic to the plaintiffs’ argument but also expressed concern about the “massive social upheaval” that he believed would follow from a ruling for them.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

#SCOTUS reverses decision by 4th Circuit, upholds permit for $8 billion natural gas pipeline that will tunnel under Appalachian Trail

— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) June 15, 2020



Fuck RBG for this one

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

(and the other 6 in favor obv but I don't see their slay queen memes)

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

I may have actually injured a lung laughing at the mental image of a Clarence Thomas "YAAAAAAAAAS SLAY QUEEN" meme

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

https://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/985730/985730_v9_aa.jpg

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

I worked as quickly as I could

https://i.imgflip.com/458lbi.jpg

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

GO GIRL

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

hahahahaha

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

The law school meme group is on fire today pic.twitter.com/1Ea4HgGr1V

— Detective Pikajew wants Bill de Blasio gone (@clapifyoulikeme) June 15, 2020

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

gotta say, gorsuch can write

k3vin k., Monday, 15 June 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the paragraphs I quoted and the way he (or his clerks) wrote crystalline prose throughout meant he had non-lawyers in mind.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

This Gorsuch decision is not originalist in any way; he acknowledges as much. It is simply a bad, outcome-driven legal decision. And it throws religious liberty, free speech, and employment law into complete turmoil.

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) June 15, 2020

Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 June 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

mmmmmm delicious tearx

Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 June 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

Gosh what are plainspoken decent Americans going to do if they can't discriminate against gay and trans people?? Such turmoil, so upheaval

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 June 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

what "turmoil"?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 15 June 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link

Well there's obviously going to be turmoil the instant a gay person needs to be fired for being gay and their employer has to invent some other excuse. It'll be chaos!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 June 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

cynically, at-will employment laws in many states mean all gay/trans people will now just be documented as "lazy"
it's still a great ruling and good step

mh, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

Tossing out at-will laws is a whole other battle that needs to happen.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

Having not yet read the opinion, I can say this seems to bring Title VII in line with California law. So, Mr. Shapiro, no real turmoil here.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

wait hang on a second

The question came to the court in three different cases, all argued on the same day last October. Donald Zarda, a skydiving instructor, and Gerald Bostock, a child-welfare-services coordinator for Clayton County, Georgia, filed lawsuits in federal court alleging that they were fired because they were gay, which violated Title VII. In Zarda’s case, which was continued by his estate after he died in a base-jumping accident in 2014, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit agreed with Zarda that Title VII bars discrimination based on sexual orientation.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link

a very good decision by his executor. the costs of the suit, plus damages, will probably be awarded to his estate.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link

Intentionally burning down a neighbor’s house is arson, even if the perpetrator’s ultimate intention (or motivation) is only to improve the view.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

i made that for u guys

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link

*bows*

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

NY Times op-ed by U. of Texas Law Professor re one of the things the majority of the current court is doing--

But for all of the attention that we pay to these “merits” cases on the court’s docket, the Trump administration, with a majority of the justices’ acquiescence, has quietly racked up a series of less visible — but no less important — victories by repeatedly seeking (and often obtaining) stays of lower-court losses.

Such stay orders are generally unsigned and provide no substantive analysis. But they nevertheless have the effect of allowing challenged government programs to go into full effect even though lower courts have struck them down — and often when no court has ever held them to be lawful in the first place.

Until the Trump administration, they were exceptionally rare. But they have become almost commonplace in the past three years, clearing the way for the president to proceed with many of his most controversial policies without a final determination of their legality.

during the 16 years of the George W. Bush and Obama administrations, the government asked the justices for such emergency relief only eight times — and the justices granted half of the applications. Moreover, none of the eight decisions to grant or deny such relief was 5-4.

But in just three years, the Trump administration’s Justice Department has sought 29 emergency stays from the Supreme Court — including 11 during the court’s current term alone. And the justices, or at least a majority of them, have largely acquiesced, granting 17 of the applications in full or in part, rulings that have had significant and lasting ramifications on the ground — and that have often been quite divisive on the court.

It was a partial stay from the Supreme Court that allowed President Trump to put much of his travel ban into effect until the policy was revised in late 2017. A stay from the Supreme Court allowed the president to divert military construction funds to help build his border wall. And stays from the court have allowed the administration to keep enforcing an array of asylum policies — like the “Remain in Mexico” program and the public-charge rule — that have come under fierce legal criticism.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

At the very least, if the justices mean to change the rules for when government litigants should be allowed to obtain emergency relief, they should say so. Otherwise, the court’s behavior in these cases gives at least the appearance of undue procedural favoritism toward the government as a litigant — a “disparity in treatment,” as Justice Sonia Sotomayor warned in February, that “erodes the fair and balanced decision making process that this Court must strive to protect.”

Especially when that disparity seems to repeatedly favor conservative policies over progressive ones, it gives at least the appearance that the court is bending over backward to accommodate a particular political agenda — a message that, now more than ever, all of the justices should be ill inclined to send.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/opinion/supreme-courts-trump-relief.html?action=click&algo=bandit-story&block=more_in_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=156040531&impression_id=639045339&index=0&pgtype=Article®ion=footer

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

court rules against Trump’s plan to end DACA!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 June 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

BREAKING Court invalidates Trump Administration's recission of DACA

— Todd Zwillich (@toddzwillich) June 18, 2020

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

(It bore repeating.)

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

Well the ruling was against how he went about it, so I guess they can take another run at it if he wins in nov

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 June 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

Second (and *not* last) #SCOTUS decision is in June Medical. Court *strikes down* Louisiana abortion ban.

4-1-4, with Chief Justice Roberts concurring in the judgment:https://t.co/4VQgovHgjK

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) June 29, 2020

Money quote from Roberts' concurrence in the judgment, which goes on for 16 pages: pic.twitter.com/1s5D2d0VhJ

— Cristian Farias (@cristianafarias) June 29, 2020

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

I think I actually feel a trace of optimism for this country for the first time since Reagan was elected

sleeve, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

has someone awakened Susan Collins from her faint

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

You're saying because she voted for him, thinking abortion safe? I'd love to have her gone, but didn't she spike up in her polling again? You think people will be sophisticated enough to turn this against her again?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

She’s like nine points behind her democratic challenger according to what I just read

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 29 June 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

oh I see Roberts has now gotten back to destroying the country

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/supreme-court-espinoza-montana-religious-schools.html

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 03:52 (three years ago) link

correct!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

he's only interested in preserving the reputation of the court as being free from outside influence. in these lower public profile cases, he's more than fine with shitting out these garbage rulings.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link

really didn't need to read this before it was time to sleep but thanks for sharing, cos I would have otherwise missed it tomorrow.

"Thomas, joined by Gorsuch, asserted that the very concept of separating church and state “communicates a message that religion is dangerous and in need of policing, which in turn has the effect of tilting society in favor of devaluing religion.”

you're saying that like it's a bad thing, guys.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link


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