So my kids think that if I leave my account open on my (brand new 16", loaded-up) MBP that their accounts become laggier when they play Roblox. Anyone else notice this? Seems like it shouldn't be the case, right?
― DJI, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
Shouldn’t be the case
― calstars, Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
No, I think that's right – accounts in the background don't have all their stuff suspended, some keeps running. You can see it in activity manager
― stet, Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
Well then I HATE APPLE
― DJI, Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link
Your real problem is that dread program robloxI hate that infernal software with the fury of a thousand nine-year-olds having their progress halted by an inexplicable crash in an abysmally designed minigame
― El Tomboto, Friday, 19 June 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
For. Real. I thought they were done with that crap but now one of my kids is playing some kind of Jo Jo’s adventure game. The other one wants to play Rainbow 6 Siege but he can play that toxic shit at his mom’s.
― DJI, Friday, 19 June 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link
this is great https://tonsky.me/blog/syncthing/
is there a thread for the fact that everything about computers (not just apple) got really bad and complicated about ten years ago?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
at some point someone decided that TLS and passwords was Not Good Enough and now everything is really stupid
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
more on topic: i think i mentioned i am now being forced to use a new 16" MBP by work. it is an awful object. also it doesn't fucking work. it has a reproducible kernel panic any time you have the temerity to use an external monitor.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
staying on Mojave with my current MBP until I no longer get security updates
― lukas, Friday, 19 June 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
in terms of just being a physical object, I thought most people liked the new MBP though?
― lukas, Friday, 19 June 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
i think people like the fact that the keyboard doesn't break.
unusably large trackpad, touchbar, heavy, sharp corners, terrible keyboard ("does not break" is a low bar)...
it is a profoundly anti-humanist object!
the 2013 MBA is the best macbook design ever and it's been downhill from there.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
ah. yeah that all tracks with current-day Apple :/
― lukas, Friday, 19 June 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Friday, 19 June 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
i hate when i’m running with my new SE and the screen just turns on and controls become active and my finger accidentally hits back or forward or some shit. i’m not even pressing volume up/down (which ALSO shouldn’t activate the screen)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 June 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
Might get the new iMac being announced on Monday? Been about 10 years since I last had a desktop
― calstars, Friday, 19 June 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
Tracer: have you been getting annoying battery drain with the SE, and it's always some app you used for 15sec nine hours ago which has been chuntering away in the background? Probably an iOS thing rather than a hardware-specific thing, mind. I've had it with Shazam (no, I did not long-press for AutoShazam), a bus times app, a SpeedTest and some other thing I can't remember. But I don't remember this being a thing before a month ago.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 19 June 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
I haven’t noticed! I use very few apps these days though.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 June 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
Maybe try turning off background app refresh for those apps. But I’m sure you’ve thought of that. And it doesn’t help for the next app which decides to start eating up juice.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah, Background App Refresh is off for everything. Supposedly apps have a grace period of 10min or so after you switch away from them to finish doing whatever they're doing (with Refresh off), but this is a case of apps nibbling away at the power for many hours. I was told years ago that it's never really necessary on iOS to swipe up in the switcher to "kill" an app; while you may accumulate a couple of dozen in there, they're not doing anything, they're entirely suspended and not using system resources. Well, looks like I have to start actively killing them, like it's an Android in 2010.
For example, I used The Guardian app around 7:15pm this evening. It has been active in the background, draining battery, ever since. (9-10pm: The Guardian (1hr background) - 44% of battery usage; 10-11pm: The Guardian (1hr background) - 37% of battery usage, etc).
― Michael Jones, Friday, 19 June 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
lol or android now
― j., Friday, 19 June 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
Might get the new iMac being announced on Monday? Been about 10 years since I last had a desktop― calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 7:14 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 7:14 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think if I were in the market for a computer today I’d buy an iMac for home maybe with an iPad for out and about. Most of the time my MacBookpro just sits in its stand on my desk.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 20 June 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
I'm on a 2014 MBP and use it for everything. The only thing I really use my phone for is tethering. I've never really gelled with smart phones, though this is in part due to the fact that something usually goes wrong (went missing in airport x ray machine, blew up when plugged into socket, refused to turn on one day, slipped into drain)
― cherry blossom, Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:38 (three years ago) link
i found an old 4S the other day, plugged it in, it works great. it’s not compatible with zing but maybe that’s a feature.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:02 (three years ago) link
The 4S was (is) great. Tiny and heavy. A little tank.
― calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link
The last Steve Jobs phone I think.
― Alba, Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link
i still use my 4s and yes it's great (but increasingly incompatible with apps i'd like to use) (not zing ffs)
― mark s, Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link
Had a 4S 2013-15, sat in a drawer for 18 months and then became elder daughter’s first phone in summer before secondary school. She smashed the screen inside a week. Also have a 2014 MBP. 850+ recharge cycles now so battery getting pretty tired (“service battery” messages come and go). Has a tendency to shut down from anything below 50% when tasked with something hard. Never a problem with it otherwise. I did take a look at a tutorial on battery replacement. It’s the “make your own butter” of tech fixes. You just wouldn’t.
― Michael Jones, Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link
^ same boat, also w/ a ‘14 mbp. Hard to service the battery when I have to use it for work.
― calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link
I'll be in a position to get a new macbook this fall. this thread gives me pause? my current machine is a 2014 15" mbp that works great; I use it to drive a big 4k monitor in clamshell mode, but (used to?) use its portability also. my life will (maybe?) be considerably more portable in the fall, so I still want a laptop. was thinking of going with the 13" mbp rather than the air, is that a mistake? won't buy until september in any case.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 20 June 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link
i’m in the minority that has a touchbar macbook and i love it. it’s 13”, maybe those were built better? anyway a version with a better keyboard sounds great (not that i’ve had an problem with mine)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 June 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link
ok good to hear. looking at the 13" for the sake of portability, it seems it'll drive external monitors as well as the larger model. can't just get away with a tablet.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 20 June 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
i'm currently using a 2012 MBP that had its entire HD replaced in early 2017 under AppleCare warranty, and it is really starting to drag...thinking about getting a new computer, and have been using Apple products for personal computing for so long that going back to a PC sounds difficult...but what's a guy to do? should i get an MBA? wait until the fall when the bugs with the new MBPs are figured out?
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
I would not make any decisions until the WWDC next week. There’s an expectation they will announce the timeline for a switch from intel to arm processors. If it’s going to take 6 months then wait. If it’s going to take 3 years maybe just go ahead.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
ok caek that would be a big problem! the 13" mbp is just a bit more expensive than the air but has somewhat better specs (and someone else is paying for it). but the air is lighter and will fit even easier in my current awesome backpack.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
xp re. kernel panics, not re. arm processors, but yeah, I could afford to wait a bit if that timeline emerges.
If I needed a new machine today I would get a maxed out MacBook Air, no question
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
Or a pc laptop tbqhMaybe just one of these https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
I love my MBP16 for the most part, but I never use it with the lid closed. Seems like a waste of a screen!
― DJI, Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
yeah I might go for a pinebook if someone else weren't gonna buy me a new box. it's easily sufficient for my needs (though I love the look & feel of mac os still).
it is a waste of a screen but my 4k monitor is super gorgeous and I'd like to get another for the new office I'll have in another town this fall, in addition to my home office. then I can just bring the laptop back & forth without having to bother with syncing.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
Definitely getting a pinebook once the manufacturing stuff is figured out (which might be a while with covid) https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/pinebook-pro-review-a-200-foss-to-the-hilt-magnesium-chassis-laptop/?amp=1
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 June 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
I spend most of my days switching between a MacBook Air and a cheap HP Elitebook and I would not, repeat not, go for a pc laptop at this point. They're better than they used to be but still only OK, while the MBA is great.
The MacBook Pro my employer gave me stays in its pouch under the desk, because it is a simultaneously over- and under- engineered brick.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
I have a 13" touchbar MBP. it's a piece of shit and I hate it
― scampo simmonite (||||||||), Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
half of the keyboard only works half of the time, and even when it's 'fully functional', it's a chore to type anything beyond a sentence on it. I'm sure the newer ones are better
― scampo simmonite (||||||||), Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
'how bad can a keyboard really be' I always thought. welp jokes on me
Euler what monitor do you have ?
― calstars, Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
thanks for input! yeah, i've been waiting for the news on Monday, but i'm assuming that i'll just be waiting til fall or going with an Air a bit sooner.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
The best PC laptop I’ve owned was by... Toshiba, strangely. I don’t think they make them anymore.
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
iirc when I used to meet semi-regularly with Japanese folks as part of my job they all had Toshibas
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link