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oops, didn't explain my little graphic: deaths have declined at a steeper rate than case declines. but still, there's a lag effect between cases and deaths, and we're seeing a big steep rise in cases right now, in new populations that aren't remotely close to taking the precautions they need to be taking right now. in places like texas, they're arguing about their goddamn masks still

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:27 (three years ago) link

honestly i'm still just curious why you can't draw another version of the graph with the low case scenario (129k). i just want to see what that hockey stick looks like so i can compare

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:28 (three years ago) link

plus if you could project the dates out as well, in addition to the lines

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:29 (three years ago) link

I totally agree that there may be some more plateaus and slight positive bumps until the fall, but... I do not see a radically divergent explosion happening tomorrow triggering an exponential increase in fatalities across the next 3 weeks.

That was a worst case scenario doom post, but don't worry I've posted a few of those too. Thanks for letting me off easy lol.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:33 (three years ago) link

sorry, i am being an intense weirdo right now. i don't even know what i'm wanting.

*chugs water*

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:34 (three years ago) link

the 129k best-case would be ~350 deaths per day, so it would take the current trend line of -31% and ramp it down to -50%.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:34 (three years ago) link

but it was kind of a meta worst case scenario post - i was saying that i saw that as the 3rd bullet on the Washington Post, and it seemed incredibly dystopian. it wouldn't really matter if the number was 700 instead of 1100 per day. it's so fucked up

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link

xp well, shows what i know. so the cdc projection ranges from getting way worse to getting way better, and the washington post chose to amplify the very top number

and then i got freaked out because let's face it, i've been drinking again, you're right

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:36 (three years ago) link

i have never been that friend who picks fights while they're drunk, yet here i am, doing it on the internet. sorry albert r broccoli

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:37 (three years ago) link

<3

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link

More than 50,000 new cases in one day, the biggest one-day increase for any country in the world since the pandemic began https://t.co/RFuwhWJvKD

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) June 19, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

A small follow up to the "long plateau" assessment of the #COVID19 epidemic. When I tweeted this on April 30, we had ~30k daily confirmed cases and ~2000 daily deaths. This last week, we had ~24k daily confirmed cases and ~700 daily deaths. 1/10https://t.co/SjLdYVZdhK

— Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) June 20, 2020

j., Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

pikers next to Florida

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

NYT:

California reported 4,515 new cases on Sunday, the highest one-day increase since the start of the pandemic.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

Across the United States, the number of new infections has steadily risen during the past five days after plateauing for the previous 80 days.

At the same time, overall deaths have dropped dramatically. The 14-day average was down 42 percent as of Saturday.

Strikingly, the new infections have skewed younger, with more people in their 20s and 30s testing positive, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida said. These clusters may be especially worrying to colleges and universities that plan to bring students back to campus in the fall, when the coronavirus and the flu virus are expected to be circulating simultaneously.

n Florida — which “has all the makings of the next large epicenter,” according to model projections by the PolicyLab at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia — an advisory from the state’s Department of Health this weekend recommended that people avoid crowds larger than 50 people. It also encouraged social distancing and mask wearing at smaller gatherings.

Mr. Trump is set to deliver his national convention speech on Aug. 27 in Jacksonville, Fla., inside an arena that holds 15,000 people.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

242.355 cases of COVID in Chile, overtaking Italy's tally of 238.499. Cases per million sees Chile as the world's highest. This makes Santiago, where the majority of the country's cases are concentrated, a global epicenter of virus contagion.
It's going to a be a long winter. pic.twitter.com/pmuhVZa6LF

— Charis McGowan (@charis_mcgowan) June 21, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

Seems bad:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-germanys-r-number-rockets-again-from-179-to-288-12012143🕸


This is statistical malpractice. When the rate of infection is as low as it is in Germany, the uncertainty on measurement of R is enormous. Just quoting the average without the uncertainties makes a nice headline but it’s dishonest.

Germany's coronavirus R number has leapt again - from 1.79 on Saturday to 2.88 on Sunday, official figures show.

The Robert Koch Institute for public health (RKI), which has been publishing the country's COVID-19 statistics, said the new number is based on a four-day average. On Friday it was 1.06.


A change of that much in two days doesn’t pass the smell test. This is statistical noise.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

USA fatalities today were the lowest since March 23rd.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 22 June 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

looking at the worldometer site it's interesting that the number of new cases per day is fairly steady but the number of deaths keeps falling

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

Interesting, but not well-explained by any known factors, such as improved treatments or viral mutation toward a lesser lethality, so it just sits there as an isolated 'fact' that could just be an artifact of reporting and tabulation methods.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 22 June 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

It's so fun that we still have so little certainty this far into the pandemic. Lotsa shrugs!

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 June 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link

there are just so many variables

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

Wonder if the proportion of cases vs. people suffering more than mild symptoms is also down

frogbs, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

I've been watching it, according to worldometer the number of serious/critical cases in the US has gone down, but only slightly so far, from 17,000+ cases to 16,000+ cases

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link

so the number of cases vs people getting really sick seems way down

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link

ppl can get sicker

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 June 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

I think the assumption is that the you explain rising cases and falling deaths with two things:

1. The average age of newly infected people is going down because younger people are the first to emerge from lockdown. And young people are less likely to die if they get it.

2. Deaths lag infections by a couple of weeks, so deaths may go back up in future (but 1 may reduce this effect).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 June 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

seems right

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

Apropos reading for those curious about the seasonality of viruses:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/why-do-dozens-diseases-wax-and-wane-seasons-and-will-covid-19

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 22 June 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

Lipid-enveloped viruses (such as COVID-19) tend to wane in hotter, drier months. Which also explains why the focus was on hand-washing in the early stages of the response (which answers a question I asked wayyy upthread about the seemingly overnight pivot from hand-washing to mask-wearing).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 22 June 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

interesting, thank you for linking that article Albert

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link

Any reason why there are no new numbers from Sweden in the past four days? Seems to have stopped updating everywhere I've looked.

chinavision!, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

They all died

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

Victoria is having a minor freak out after we have a surge to 73 cases in 4 days. Lines at testing stations, more masks visible, Woolworths going back to having someone at the entrance making people using hand sanitiser and a slow down and roll back of reopening.

Which is good because Saturday looked like a normal pre pandemic day on the high st, aside from a bit of non-physical distanced queuing.

Seems like the surge was caused, in part by people assuming the rules didn’t apply to them, large family gatherings, people breaking quarantine. Also by people working when they should be isolating, the state gov put in a hardship payment for people who have to isolate and don’t have sick leave but it’s seems extraordinary that this didn’t happen already. Getting increasingly concerned that we are about to fuck this all up here.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

California has set another record for coronavirus cases with more than 5,000 reported infections on Monday, according to Washington Post data. Its previous high, 4,515, was recorded Sunday.

The Golden State is also facing a spike in hospitalizations, which crept up to 5,065 from the more than 3,700 reported Sunday.

yikes.
3,700 --> 5,065 hospitalizations, overnight, is not "creeping up". that's alarming.

for comparison, here are the hospitalizations and ICUs for Illinois:

https://i.imgur.com/9A7z3Zb.png

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

it took illinois about 3 weeks to get from 3700 to 5000 hospitalizations, and that was back in late April, a couple weeks before the deaths started peaking

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

in other news:

The Trump administration is ending funding and support for local COVID-19 testing sites around the country this month, as cases and hospitalizations are skyrocketing in many states.

The federal government will stop providing money and support for 13 sites across five states which were originally set up in the first months of the pandemic to speed up testing at the local level.

Local officials and public health experts expressed a mixture of frustration, resignation, and horror at the decision to let federal support lapse.

...As the pandemic began to batter the United States in March, the Department of Health and Human Services and the Federal Emergency Management Agency began to deploy Community-Based Testing Sites around the country.

The sites provide testing kits and laboratories, and notify patients of their results. The federal government covers costs, while providing staff and signing its own contracts with third-party vendors.

The Trump administration previously attempted to end support for the testing sites running under the same program in early April. The government reversed the move after a public outcry, extending the sites. The extension is now coming to an end.

Out of a starting number of 41 sites, 13 remain in operation across five states. In addition to Texas’ seven, Illinois and New Jersey each have two, while Colorado and Pennsylvania each have one.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/exclusive-feds-about-to-bail-on-supporting-covid-testing-sites-in-texas-and-other-states

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

It's all just a joke, hahahahahahahahahahaha

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

One day, we'll see, one day it will all go away like magic!

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

We will all be magically relieved of our lives

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

Fuck. I've been keeping a low profile and trusting that I haven't caught it, but I need to get a test soon before I travel and I heard the sites are starting to throttle who can get one because of decreasing availability.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

go easy, sic

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

lol busted!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Please sic don’t hurt ‘im!

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

i imagine sic to be sifting through those URLs like the guy in Pi examines the stock market, looking for patterns and secrets

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

i secretly love it, i’m a pervert

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

so was the guy in Pi, iirc (not really, but it adds a fun undercurrent to the movie)

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

sic?

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link


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