Spotify - anyone heard of it?

disappearance of “appears on” listings is a bummer

seriously though. Glenn? Help!

I still see "appears on" listings...is this on a newer version of the desktop app that I don't have yet?

yeah, it's not on my desktop.

The Appears On thing is a temporary casualty of a complicated situation I can't get into, but it will come back. Nobody wants it gone.

I reported the Pyramids page, thanks. It should get cleaned up in a day or two.

thanks for that update. i really would hate to see the "appears on" feature go away permanently, it seriously hobbles usability.

The badge that appears on the play button if you have shuffle on: heroic ui move, applause.

Does it always appear?

I see two different buttons a regular play button near the bottom and a shuffle play button that appears closer to the top

Hmm maybe it isn't what I thought it was. It's at the top below the album or playlist image - is it just shuffle play then? It does show whether I have shuffle on or off. This is in the app btw.

Was this a recent update? I don’t see it there.

version 8.5.65.852 ¯\(°_o)/¯

further investigation confirms it is just shuffle play :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipgtPCrd1O0

Wondering why the list of releases an artist Appears On stopped appearing in reverse chronological order recently - now seems to be random.

see upthread. Glenn keeps reassuring us it will be alright.

The Appears On thing involves issues that have nothing to do with what you're seeing. Hopefully it'll be back soon...

― glenn mcdonald, woensdag 27 mei 2020 2:16 bookmarkflaglink

The Appears On thing is a temporary casualty of a complicated situation I can't get into, but it will come back. Nobody wants it gone.

― glenn mcdonald, donderdag 2 juli 2020 21:30 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe it's dependent on Trump being voted out of office in November?

I said it would be back, and it is. The sort order is different now, that part is correct. There may be further developments there, eventually, but sorting by popularity is what allowed the feature to be reenabled...

Okay Glenn, now you’ve got me confused (and worried). The reordering/sorting by popularity instead of (reverse) chronology was precisely the issue longneck and I complained about back in May. You then said in reply this was a temporary issue.
The actual disappearance of the feature only came up here last week ( I never experienced it myself). So now you’re saying the sorting by popularity is a permanent thing? That’s... very bad news, for the reasons outlined back in May.

Could you possibly leave Glenn alone? He's not ILX's personal Spotify troubleshooter. Take your complaints to the Spotify forums, please.

People air their opinions (positive and negative) on and issues with Spotify here. Glenn pops up here sometimes to respond or weigh in, which is great. He does this of his own accord, as far as I know. It’s not that people are summoning him or something. He happened to weigh in on this specific issue (which has nothing to do with troubleshooting) as well. I’m just responding to his responses.

It's OK. The feature was removed entirely for many people, that was the bigger issue. It's now back for everybody. For now, the thing that allowed it to return was sorting by popularity (so that certain recent-but-not-popular compilations are not so prominent). Whether this is permanent, I do not know.

(I mean that no permanent decision has been made yet.)

https://open.spotify.com/track/0EXW6qWbVvS6KSRG9zbZyg?si=r5tYOioZQVmn2coAdKTlyw < listen to the end for a surprise. never encountered this before !

That version isn't available in the US, and all the ones that are have shorter durations. So now I really want to know what the surprise is!

Lol, couldn’t have guessed that would happen.

almost as rude as when i bought nine inch nails' broken on cd and on playing was greeted with some smooth soul music.

what's supposed to happen here?

Tubgirl shows up in a Flash animation

For the first 2.55, it's what it should be - Jelly Roll Morton "Red Hot Pepper Stomp" - but then it cuts abruptly into the last 45 seconds or so of Steely Dan "Bad Sneakers".

Awesome. I've reported it to the team who will ask the licensor to try again...

ugghhhh why are they taking away the "Recently Played" list on the iphone app! First "Recently Played" went from a long column to a shortened row, now it is completely gone. I understand there are all these other cool records, playlists, past listens brought back from the dead by Spotify's algorithms, etc....but why can't I see what I recently played anymore? It was my favorite organizing principle on this thing.

What? Is that for real? Cuz yeah, for me too, it’s a no-brainer, super-useful

But I still see mine

I don't think I ever found where Recently Played was on the app!

on my iPhone, Recently Played is the second item on the Home screen ... I can swipe the visible part of the row to see a fairly long list

Oh yeah - for me too. I guess I don't pay much attention to the home screen and spend all my time in library and search. Also, I'm frequently changing between devices for Spotify playback so a phone one only reminds me how annoying it Spotify doesn't let you see my playing history across devices.

Oh right – and this is recently played albums and playlists anyway, not tracks.

Never knew the mobile app even had a Recently Played function.
Are you all talking about this hidden away listing? It goes back about 150 plays with me:
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Music-Chat/History-Recently-Played-on-Mobile-Device/td-p/4660284

well, make that about 100. forgot it doesn’t register plays on other devices.

Still, I love that it exists but is hidden like an Easter egg. Thanks.

I just noticed that the band Sparks “appears on” a bunch of Rocafella albums. Who knew?

I've heard of Spotify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdnKe4NM-s

giving joe rogan 100 million dollars seems like a perfectly reasonable business decision

madness

I know they've thought about it and worked it all out, but how much audience will Rogan lose after going exclusive to Spotify? 1/3? 1/2?

I guess he doesn't care - money is money, whether it comes from Spotify or from advertisers.

i'm, uh, less concerned about joe rogan's decision making process here

like, i understand, i'm a fuckin' biased source here in that i've never liked spotify, i got a record here of shit talking spotify perhaps a little bit out of proportion to what it's actually been doing

honestly this kind of benefits me if it means that i don't have to deal with youtube recommending me fucking joe rogan videos every time i go on there

i recognize it's hypocritical of me to still use youtube and google, knowing that they are monetizing his toxic bullshit, knowing that this is their business model, and then turn around and dunk on spotify for spending $100 million for the privilege of doing the same fucking thing

this is always how it goes, once a company gets big enough, powerful enough, that they own the market, they expand into other markets. every fucking indie artist feels tremendous, immense pressure to sign a deal with spotify, even though they don't fucking get paid, because if they don't sign with spotify they don't get _heard_

and who does get paid? joe fucking rogan, that's who.

allow me to repeat my 2020 mantra: i'm not surprised, i'm disappointed.

because you have to expand your market, because there's not enough _money_ in music, because in 2020, the real money is in just Asking Questions of very intelligent people like alex jones.

I have to admit I am little surprised that Michelle Obama is going ahead with her Spotify exclusive podcast given the Rogan deal. Gives a new wrinkle to the expression “sharing a platform”.

https://www.thefader.com/2020/07/30/spotify-ceo-daniel-ek-says-working-musicians-can-no-longer-release-music-only-once-every-three-to-four-years

So basically he’s saying
Give us your music all the time as soon as you can even if it’s shite , we will decide if it fits our criteria and promote only what we see as worthy for playlist selection whilst still paying almost nothing to the artist.

Yeh nice one Dan.... 😂 https://t.co/xOC6b2lvUu

— Geoff Barrow (@jetfury) July 31, 2020

The mask is off: if there was ever a question about whether they care about quantity or quality, it’s over, and anyone who’s defended this guy and Spo business practices to me (many of you) should feel very silly right about now. Like you should probably shut the fuck up forever https://t.co/IY2uTLLPmU

— Telefon Tel Aviv (@telefontelaviv) July 31, 2020

Spotify exposing their true colours. And in true tech giant style in the middle of a world wide crisis 👏👏👏 Disaster capitalism at it's finest. https://t.co/2Mr9qmT0Jr

— Tripeo (@tripeotechno) July 31, 2020

it is the sort of thing thom yorke would say in 2007, and the other stuff in those reaction tweets doesn't necessarily follow.