Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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(xpost) Can easily imagine someone asking him in 2015, "You're rich [pretend for a minute that is indeed true], you're famous, you've got your own TV show...Why are you doing it? How much better can you eat? What could you buy that you can't already afford?"

"The future, Mr. Scaramucci, the future!"

clemenza, Saturday, 4 July 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-worldview-forged-by-neglect-and-trauma-at-home-his-niece-says-in-new-book/2020/07/07/b19b22f6-bf9d-11ea-864a-0dd31b9d6917_story.html

A tell-all book by President Trump’s niece describes a family riven by a series of traumas, exacerbated by a daunting patriarch who “destroyed” Donald Trump by short-circuiting his “ability to develop and experience the entire spectrum of human emotion,” according to a copy of the forthcoming memoir obtained by The Washington Post.

President Trump’s view of the world was shaped by his desire during childhood to avoid his father’s disapproval, according to the niece, Mary L. Trump, whose book is by turns a family history and a psychological analysis of her uncle.

Mary’s father, Fred Jr., — the president’s older brother — died of an alcohol-related illness when she was 16 years old in 1981. President Trump told The Washington Post last year that he and his father both pushed Fred Jr. to try to go into the family business, which Trump said he now regrets.

Donald escaped his father’s scorn and ridicule, Mary Trump wrote, because “his personality served his father’s purpose. That’s what sociopaths do: they co-opt others and use them toward their own ends — ruthlessly and efficiently, with no tolerance for dissent or resistance.”

The president, Mary Trump wrote, is a product of his domineering father and was acutely aware of avoiding the scorn that he heaped on his older brother, called Freddy, Trump writes.
“By limiting Donald’s access to his own feelings and rendering many of them unacceptable, Fred perverted his son’s perception of the world and damaged his ability to live in it.”

Mary Trump wrote that her grandfather’s children routinely lied to him but for different reasons. For her father, “lying was defensive — not simply a way to circumvent his father’s disapproval or to avoid punishment, as it was for the others, but a way to survive.”

For her uncle Donald, however, “lying was primarily a mode of self-aggrandizement meant to convince other people he was better than he actually was,” Trump writes.
Mary wrote that her father had a “natural sense of humor, sense of adventure, and sensitivity,” which he worked hard to hide from the family patriarch.

“Softness was unthinkable in his namesake,” she writes.

“Fred (Sr.) hated it when his oldest son screwed up or failed to intuit what was required of him, but he hated it even more then, after being taken to task, Freddy (Fred Jr.) apologized. ‘Sorry, Dad,’” Mary wrote of the way her grandfather treated her father, known as Freddy. Fred Sr. “would mock him. Fred wanted his oldest son to be a ‘killer.’”

Donald, seven-and-a-half years younger than his brother, “had plenty of time to learn from watching Fred humiliate” his eldest son, Mary Trump wrote.

“The lesson he learned, at its simplest, was that it was wrong to be like Freddy: Fred didn’t respect his oldest son, so neither would Donald.”

The book, “Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man,” became an instant bestseller based on advance orders, underscoring the intense interest among the public about the forces that shaped the man who became president.

Mary Trump, 55, who has a doctoral degree in clinical psychology, shares a history of family tragedy and division with President Trump. In 1981, when she was 16 years old, her father Fred Jr. — the president’s older brother — died of an alcohol-related disease. Friends of her father told The Washington Post last year that they questioned whether Donald and other members of the family bore some responsibility for Fred Jr.’s decline.

Mary Trump once stood up to her uncle Donald. How her book describes a ‘nightmare’ of family dysfunction.

President Trump, who rarely admits mistakes, told The Post in an interview last year that he regrets the way he way he and his father pressured his brother to go into the family business instead of encouraging to continue with the dream of becoming a commercial airline pilot.

“I do regret having put pressure on him,” Trump said. Running the family business “was just something he was never going to want” to do. “It was just not his thing. . . . I think the mistake that we made was we assumed that everybody would like it. That would be the biggest mistake. . . . There was sort of a double pressure put on him” by his brother and his father.
Trump pressured his alcoholic brother about his career. Now he says he has regrets.

After her father died, the Trump family agreed to help support Mary and her brother Fred III.

But when Mary’s grandfather Fred Sr. died in 1999, she and her brother did not get the inheritance they expected, a sum that might have equaled the amount that would have gone to their father, if he had lived. Mary and Fred contested Fred Sr.’s will, contending that one or more people connected to the Trump family coerced him to change it and give them less money.

Fred and Mary eventually reached a settlement with Donald and his siblings, receiving an undisclosed amount and signing a confidentiality agreement. President Trump’s younger brother, Robert, filed a petition in New York Supreme Court seeking to stop publication on grounds that she had agreed not to publish an account of the family. But the court’s appellate division ruled last week that the publisher, Simon & Schuster, was not a party to that agreement and lifted a temporary restraining order against it.

As Donald Trump announced his candidacy in 2015, Mary Trump does not appear to have said anything publicly about him.But when it became clear that her uncle had won the presidency, she took to Twitter. “Worst night of my life,” she wrote at least 12 times in tweets that have been deleted recently. She wrote that “We should be judged harshly. . . . I grieve for our country.”

The publisher said it had already shipped thousands of copies, and it moved the publication to July 14, two weeks ahead of the original schedule. Mary Trump has sought to lift the temporary restraining against her, and a decision on that could come within days.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

NEWSFLASH: Loser's family are losers; please pay $29.99 to find out more

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

Book by Trump's Niece a Desperate Plea For Understanding: My Uncle Was Not Always the Coarse, Warped, Despicable and Evil Man He Now Is: He Once Was an Infant: Thought You Should Know: Kthxbye!

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

thanks so much for releasing this AFTER he became president, great job niece! congrats as well on your book advance you rich fuck!

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

but i'm sure she donates all of her corrupt family's wealth to charity

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

she also claims that he hired someone to take the SAT for him, which is simply beyond the pale

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

god, please make donald trump take a real SAT test right now and publicize his score

i know i talk a lot of shit on you and have actually been actively working to subvert you because i'm 99% sure you are a disinterested or actively malign god, if you exist at all, but i will fucking MAKE IT UP to you if you make this happen

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

GOD: ...

*thousands of years pass*

GOD: ...

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

uh oh, look out, new word from god coming out!!

GOD: ...i have decided....that Cain should be punished

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

Herman Cain

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

Herman Cain: "OH LORD, DID YOU MEAN TO PUNISH ME, OR THE BIBLICAL CAIN? PLEASE TELL ME, I AM SO SORRY!!"

GOD: ...

*thousands of years pass*

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

So the SAT stuff is the big revelation out of this book? Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

paid someone to take SAT? that makes him smart

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

the chase is on

ATTENTION: If Donald Trump paid you to take the SATs for him, hit me up on twitter. DMs are open.

— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 7, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

Oh, this will bring him down for sure. For SURE. FOR SURE.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

it's the worst thing he's ever done

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

wait are you telling me this guy is a cheat now

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

Like, show us some proof that Trump actually took the SATs himself and didn't completely shit the bed in the course of doing so. Now THAT would be news.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

HonorCodeGate

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

.@PressSec on Mary Trump's book:

"Have yet to see the book, but it is a book of falsehoods."

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) July 7, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

remember when he floated the idea of having a moat on the southern border of the US filled with alligators and snakes? remember how that didn't put a dent in him?

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

"I haven't tasted that pizza yet, but it tastes like absolute ass."

Love when they jump ahead of the damage control without even trying to understand what they are trying to spin.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

"there is no merit to the story that Donald Trump once took a group of Boy Scouts into the woods to play freeze tag, left them to go out to dinner, then couldn't remember where he left them, and just went home after".

"none of that is mentioned in the book".

"right. because it didn't happen".

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 9, 2020

"FOR THE 1/100th TIME"

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

Let's just conveniently ignore the thing where a lot of people can't even get approval for a test until/unless they're exhibiting signs of full-blown 'rona.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

this means we have to hear it 100 more times before we even get to hear it a complete first time

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

dud

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

I've been tuned out for two or three weeks. When I heard him today, it's hard to even describe the sensation--different than what I'd ever felt before.

clemenza, Friday, 10 July 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

Why oh why won't the media report this obvious fact that anyone with 2 functioning brain cells could grasp while also realizing it's a fucking idiotic way to look at it, PLEASE TELL ME WHY THEY DON'T

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

what does this sentence mean

lol that he says doctors were surprised he passed a fucking cognitive test!! Wtf ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link

Even if it were true, "the doctors were *very* surprised I passed a cognitive test" is not really the slam dunk the president thinks it is. https://t.co/7hk0LAFxcZ

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) July 10, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

Fucking shit we really are in some uncharted territory. I mean this whole shit show is so far beyond like Katrina level failure it’s insane.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link

yeah, with Katrina, Republicans were abandoning the Bush train and people were eager to sell him out. Katrina was bad, this is basically "is my cat playing Simcity"?

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link

a cat playing simcity would be preferable, because although it might occasionally lay on the keys and accidentally trigger a disaster or bulldoze a small district, everything else would pretty run on autopilot, probably resulting in bad traffic and lopsided zoning. instead, trump is like a really, really dumb kid playing simcity, and that is so much worse for the simcitizens

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

“Rarely do people do what you just did.”

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

Truer words....

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

this is the one guy screaming "YOU WILL REGRET THIS!" in America's face over and over again

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link

lol exactly

he was so right

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

well, we said as the water came to a full boil and the babies began to stop screaming, he DID tell us he was gonna do this

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link

starting to think if there's a god, he's like that weird luminous one from God Told Me To

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

god is the god of job: he will ruin a good man's life just to make a point to the devil

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

motherfucker

j., Friday, 10 July 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link

Who, god? Or job?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link

Job is just God spelled backwards

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link

scene at heaven's gates
peter is checking the guest list

"no."
"...motherfucker"

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

Job is just God spelled backwards
this would be a good tattoo

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

I just grasped how his lizard brain farted out the "1/100th" thing. 100th=hundredth so you gotta put a 1 in front of it if you mean to say "one hundredth". Wonder if he typed "1 100th" at first but knew that didn't look right.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link


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