outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

yeah was all good to just stay in and shut it down for a few months but school is starting & my wife has to go back to work, something's gotta give here

there seems to be a lot of optimism about a vaccine in the scientific community, idk where you're seeing that the vaccine won't be effective.

it seems likely that the eventual covid vaccine will be more similar to a flu vaccine than an MMR vaccine, offering immunity for a short time but needing regular boosters. we're gonna get used to hearing 'get your rona shot' at seasonally appropriate times.

The thing about antibodies not staying in the system for long appears to be for very mild or asymptomatic cases and from what I can see it's disputed. We simply don't know enough yet.

Always bear in mind that the median value of any single peer reviewed scientific study is zero

Yeah, I gotta say that stepping back from reading every article and poring over the data daily has done wonders for my not freaking out over things. Do I feel "better"? I don't know. But the bouts of hopelessness are spacing further and further apart.

yea idk it might just be I'm absorbing info from headlines which are increasingly pessimistic

just frustrated b/c things are really gonna hit the fan soon. I don't want to send my kid to school. There have been outbreaks in the neighborhood. one of my neighbors (who is 41) was hospitalized for over a week and nearly hit the ventilator. four of our day care teachers caught it. nobody here is taking any precautions, you see the occasional mask but that's it. my friends and family are starting to get frustrated with us cuz we don't wanna do anything. it just sucks

friend of mine in the atl region is thinking of having his high-school-aged kids take the year off because it's going to be so fucked.

all this talk about anti-bodies where is the pro-body community

dude, trump admin is hella pro-bodies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxkQXK0kRd0

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html

Ever since the coronavirus emerged in Europe, Sweden has captured international attention by conducting an unorthodox, open-air experiment. It has allowed the world to examine what happens in a pandemic when a government allows life to carry on largely unhindered.

This is what has happened: Not only have thousands more people died than in neighboring countries that imposed lockdowns, but Sweden’s economy has fared little better.

“They literally gained nothing,” said Jacob F. Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “It’s a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains.”

"self-inflicted wound" doesn't seem like the right phrase - the thousands of people who died didn't choose that policy

This doesn’t bode well

It's not enough to crush the virus once. You have to keep crushing it. You have to remain vigilant.

Look at Israel. After doing a great job during the first wave, it tried to reopen too fast, and now its outbreak, in per capita terms, isn't far behind ours. pic.twitter.com/9zNbnQjgqJ

— Matt O'Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) July 7, 2020

Yes, I was just reading about Israel, I felt they were getting a bit too cocky there.

IMO cockiness is exactly what's called for here. You gotta show COVID who's boss. I mean, are we gonna let ourselves be pushed around and barred from eating in restaurants by something as small as a virus? Like fun we are.

I'm guessing New York is the bellwether here, given the severity of the outbreak there? It looks like the peak has past there but if it starts to climb rapidly again it means we're basically all fucked, it's either keep everything in stasis for an indefinite amount of time or risk losing control of the virus altogether.

Also apparently parts of Italy have reopened clubs again? That seems insane.

It looks like the peak has past there but if it starts to climb rapidly again it means we're basically all fucked

if it starts to climb rapidly again it will be largely due to the containment strategies NY puts in place (or doesn't put in place). rapid rises aren't inevitable - they're the result of public policy decisions and people deciding to get serious and wear a mask and be safe, or not.

plenty of governments could be doing much better, but i don't think there's a ton of evidence yet for that last sentence

I don't get the impression that New York is a closed ecosystem - it would have to bubble with parts of New Jersey for a start.

let's just kill everybody within 24 hours of a positive COVID test, that should get rid of it

actually delete that post, GOP politicians might see it and adopt it

more evidence of virus involvement in circulatory-related effects, specifically the coagulation process:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-complications-covid-von-willebrand-factor.html

Serbs storm parliament after virus lockdown announced

Guess what? Another asshole head of state is implicated.

BREAKING: Dozens of Florida hospitals have no available intensive care units, according according to data released Tuesday afternoon by the state. ICU beds are at capacity at 54 hospitals across 25 counties and 30 hospitals reported that their units were more than 90% full.

— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) July 7, 2020

really would like to know which ones, esp with my father....

ahh great, that includes Orlando. well, hopefully nobody I know catches a disease, gets in a car wreck, or gets shot

https://bi.ahca.myflorida.com/t/ABICC/views/Public/HospitalBedsHospital

I am livid over this, not that I didn't know the hospital shortage was getting worse, but there are literally TWO fucking ICU beds in the county my fucking parents live in right now. and while this is happening, smug assholes are telling my teacher friends that if they don't want to return to work, they should find new jobs.

Every news bulletin has a public health expert on saying masks are a good idea. Can we get a mask order for Victoria? can we fuck.

Our second wave may be approaching, if the turds speak truly.

Faut-il s’alarmer ? Près de deux mois après la levée des principales mesures de confinement, la quantité de virus détectée dans les eaux usées parisiennes semble indiquer une légère reprise de l’épidémie depuis une quinzaine de jours, indiquent des sources concordantes.

Quand un malade va aux toilettes, le virus présent dans ses selles contamine les eaux qui les évacuent. Il est présent quelques jours après l’infection, avant l’apparition des premiers symptômes de la maladie. Les eaux usées « reflètent en partie l’état de santé de la population », souligne-t-on chez Eau de Paris, et représentent un indicateur épidémique « avancé » par rapport aux indicateurs « tardifs », comme les hospitalisations.

https://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/review/primary_image/reviews/great-movie-the-phantom-of-the-opera-1925/EB20041219REVIEWS08412190303AR.jpg

^^^gnarled and turbid sinuses IIRC

Activity power rankings!

Want to know which activities are safest or highest risk? Follow doctors’ advice and check out this chart from @texmed. pic.twitter.com/YDzzC1dRJV

— Erin Zwiener (@ErinForYall) July 6, 2020

Is eating bats OK now or not?

10 / 10 making out with coronavirus

I don't see "licking hospital medical-waste bins" on there. My freedom is being impinged by this liberal hoax.

this is pretty fucked up

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/08/warning-of-serious-brain-disorders-in-people-with-mild-covid-symptoms

One coronavirus patient described in the paper, a 55-year-old woman with no history of psychiatric illness, began to behave oddly the day after she was discharged from hospital.

She repeatedly put her coat on and took it off again and began to hallucinate, reporting that she saw monkeys and lions in her house. She was readmitted to hospital and gradually improved on antipsychotic medication.

this seems like a...baaaaaaad idea?

British finance minister Rishi Sunak unveiled a sweeping plan to reinvigorate the U.K. economy Wednesday, amid widespread economic fallout and an ongoing unemployment crisis due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The $37.7 billion plan will hand out bonuses worth around $1,250 to employers for each furloughed worker they get back to work after October and includes a government-funded discount on restaurant meals in August to encourage Britons to support local businesses. To further encourage spending, value added tax in hospitality and tourism, which is typically 20 percent, will be reduced to five percent for the next six months. The tax discount will be applied to “eat-in or hot takeaway food from restaurants, cafes and pubs; accommodation in hotels, B & Bs, campsites and caravan sites [and] attractions like cinemas, theme parks and zoos,” Sunak said.

The restaurant discount, which Sunak coined “eat out to help out,” will offer British restaurant patrons who dine at restaurants between Mondays and Wednesdays next month 50 percent off — up to around $12.60 per person. Alcohol will not be covered, and restaurants interested in participating in the program will need to register by mid-July.

“I know people are cautious about going out,” Sunak said. “But we wouldn’t have lifted the restrictions if we didn’t think we could do so, safely.”

"alcohol will not be covered" - listen, we'll use your taxes to give incentives to people to go die a little faster, but you can be sure that they won't be able to get a free drink out of it

Why you so mean, they only want to be loved.

is anyone doing PR for coronavirus?

Coronavirus - get out there and spread it around

COVID19 - because you might indirectly kill someone you never even met

here's a tip you can leave for your bartender - i just singlehandedly raised the case incidence in this zip code by 0.04%

People who can afford to go to restaurants: here's some money, now spread the virus

People who get delivery and stay home: no soup for you

eating at a restaurant (inside) is only 7/10, chill out KM

*leans in to bartender*

and i only make up 0.002% of the population

going to a bar is 9/10, so it's good the pubs haven't reopened

|||||||| 7/10 activities are what the pros use to warm up for their morning workout