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i don't understand treating "small business owners" as a single category. it doesn't make any sense.

please buy my meat pies

idgi either, perhaps because I know quite a few of them who don't fit the mold being proposed here.

I get that there are groups that deserve collective scorn even if there are exceptions who prove the rule, I just don't get why small business owners are "it", per se. which isn't to deny anybody's bad experiences with small business owners, it's just....idk why treating them like a homogeneous entity helps anything really.

absolute idealism births absolute value systems
please, they're lovely pies and i have an hbo max subscription to keep up

UCB: Steven Pinker should continue to be a Fellow of the Linguistics Society of America

However I will pair my UCB with the Cool Left Belief that it is ridiculous to consider the UCB in any way a transgressive, illicit, or god-help-me "brave" belief to hold or to express

i played one of Joseph's brothers in that musical ... there were four other cis-females who played brothers, but i was the only one with boobs ... i think i had 4 solo lines ??? I think one was "we are ill"

more like two over-hyped exemplars of privilege. ppl should stop worshipping lucier and give credit to the first early humans who felt a transcendental tranquility as they contemplated their mortality and the limits of their self as they listened to the echoes of their voice bouncing off the rocks of the great rift valley

― rumpy riser (ogmor), Sunday, June 14, 2020 8:56 AM (three weeks ago)

i love this extremely pompous bad post of yours! Glad we can mutually appreciate each other!

I'm touched you went to the trouble of digging it out, sorry if you had to scroll through too much uk politics content

i also scrolled through a number of posts about marxism and the left as well that I thought were quite good, actually ... and your posts on the keeping up with new music thread were quite un-pompous

also Gucci Gucci is one of my fave songs as well

*munches an apple*

Reveal Your Cool Detentes Here

silby is frankly a master at making ppl disgrace themselves talking down to him & meeting his flippancy with serious scorn, but the personal rubbish is unnecessary and unhealthy for all concerned (don't you think ilx works better when we don't have to hear what people think they really think of each other?) including the reader, who is so very tired

i for one could generally use a nap

lol I come from a long line of small business owners and I’m dying at the thought of stanning for them as a class?! Like I’ve worked for other small businesses and they absolutely do play the “sorry we can’t pay you more” tune while squeezing you for everything you’re worth...there’s no noble way to do wage theft.

xxp - uh, if you found my post disgraceful, then that's on you. silby is so far from a master, it is sad ... it really is ... otoh, most of the true masters of those things you mention appear to be sociopaths and have been banned and/or quit ilx. silby is a smug child that will grow up to be a self-loathing middle aged person still waiting on the revolution ... or develop more nuanced beliefs based on actual lived experiences of other people whom they will likely encounter over time.

Why do we have to do anything with small business people as a class?

nah it wasn’t just him.

Like have we just accepted they're a monolith or

you’d probably want to read my post again before projecting the argument you want to be responding to.

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Fraudulent emoji I can’t really whistle

silby's great, would prefer their perspective to many cis shitheads who will post here forever

I can only whistle by blowing out, not breathing in. And the only tune I can do is Alpha Beta Gaga.

I think the average job (at least in the states) is a garbage place to work, why add "small" in front

Neanderthal -- which roles did you play in Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat?

I ain't rereading shit guac

yeah I could tell mate, don’t waste your words!

so, okay ... WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS? ... I feel like this term is being used to refer to different things by different posters?

this whirlwind of confusing beef will surely only benefit sales of my delicious meat pies
please, they are on COVID special and will surely allow me to buy more hard drives

i don't think anything silby said above was really revelatory. But I am not searching through old posts to find the source of drama.

Uncool though not necessarily conservative belief I more or less sincerely hold: Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat is the best contemporary musical

I was Naphthali

I don't care how tall you are owning a business is hard work

whoa! I was Gad! we were bros!

like, I include members of worker-owned co-ops in my definition of small business owners, as well as self-employed people who don't have employees, and Executive Directors (senior staff) of small non-profits. ...

If righteous posters silby and gyac want to besmirch the category of members of worker-owned co-ops, please, go ahead ... they aren't perfect and there are systemic problems in re equity and other things but ... I am open to discussing those fairly and respectfully

Seems like in the US small businesses can be as big as 1500 employees and $30M in revenues. So there is a spectrum.

what in the ever-loving fuck did this thread turn into

and “worker-owned co-ops” is the credible outlier small business model that only a KNOWN TROLL would bring up when small business is being criticized ffs

I’m gonna do it

#notallsmallbusinessowners

lol

like for every fuckin’ co-op run with an average amount of drama there are a half dozen home/landscaping/construction contractors underpaying immigrants under the table who spend the other half their day screaming about how their suburban monstrosity of a house is overtaxed

so ... you only want to eat at chain restaurants?

I only wanna eat at small business restaurants that only hire young people and routinely sexually harass them, tyvm 😉

like what is the argument here: that small businesses owners are horrible people and thus small businesses shouldn't exist? ... or that small business owners are not inherently saintly? ... or ... large corporations are better than small businesses because there are more checks/balances on the people that run them, because all people that run businesses are horrible people?

I stopped eating at the local chain that counts as a small business because the owner is a total shithead who testified to the city council that we absolutely should not raise the minimum wage and is a bad employer. If there’s a group meeting I don’t control, I’d go there but tip very well.

That guy is generally the exception and not the rule, with the caveat that most small businesses are going to have wage pressures as they take on employees and it’s really hard to make any restaurant successful

pretending “small businesses are bad” is some blanket condemnation of small businesses in particular and not the societal conditions that keep them bad is some bullshit, along with thinking it comes with the implication that corporate chains are better. absolutely no one has said “corporate chains are better than small business restaurants”

if you absolutely have to hear it said as “the current small business model is bad” then I’ll insert the words

LL gets it

I hold fast to the uncool conservative belief that power corrupts -- so I am certainly not arguing against the posters here that are citing actual examples of small business owners being horrible people, because power tends to make people do bad things, and people with a tendency to garbage behavior are often attracted to power and obtain it more easily.

“the current small business model is bad” then I’ll insert the words

what model are we talking about? ...