"getting over it"....
https://english.elpais.com/science_tech/2020-07-17/over-half-of-coronavirus-hospital-patients-in-spain-have-developed-neurological-problems-studies-show.html
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
Kids only infect other kids, it's like a game of tag.
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
Fuck this fucking country. Just awful.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
On the bright side, you'll be ahead of the curve and achieve herd immunity as early as 2030.
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
who will win, the governors trying to force kids to go to school, the protesters trying to prevent kids from school, the protesters trying to force kids to go to school, a named US military branch, an unnamed US covert ops squad, the mayors trying to force the governors to stop forcing the kids to go to school, dr manhattan, or nikki haley
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
sorry to make light of it - i am very lucky to not have to deal with this right now, directly. i know so many ilxors are - teachers, those of us with kids. it's such a fucking mess. :(
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
Feel like i want to page k3v every time there's news on any vaccine dev and have him de-spin it for us
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
my partner is definitely stressing about what's going to be asked of her in terms of going back to classes; schools are paralyzed waiting for governor/DOE to make a pronouncement. Seems likely they will wait until two weeks before classes start and union will strike. Administration is asking educators to prepare for both remote learning AND in person classes, which complicates things considerably. Teachers gonna get stuck in the middle of an unnecessarily political shitstorm.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
Oddly, cucumber.
― Sanpaku, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEl8xWJ-CF0
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
“You’re lying to the public! Shame one you!” Protestors disrupt DeSantis press conference today pic.twitter.com/m9YASa01WD— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) July 20, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
I've seen a lot of people wringing their hands about COVID antibodies dropping off after 3 months, screeching things like "immunity doesn't last". @DKThomp called up the experts, and explains why you shouldn't be wringing your hands and screeching.https://t.co/RyeiKu7Zsb— "Rabbit = good friend" Smith 🐇 (@Noahpinion) July 20, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
desantis is such a chucklefuck
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, July 20, 2020 11:36 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
haha. I’m honestly not following the vaccine data too closely yet. the studies they’re doing now are early-stage where they determine whether the body makes antibodies to the vaccine, which is the bare minimum for an effective vaccine. when they start the real phase 3 studies where they see if it prevents infections, I’ll start to really pay attention. I’m hopeful though! for now I have enough to worry about
― k3vin k., Monday, 20 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
The oxford vaccine is in stage 3 IIUC
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
Was just looking at this tweet from Oxford and the replies of no we are not going to take it.
Oxford’s Covid-19 vaccine produces a good immune response, reveals new study. Teams at @VaccineTrials and @OxfordVacGroup have found there were no safety concerns, and the vaccine stimulated strong immune responses: https://t.co/krqRzXMh7B pic.twitter.com/Svd3MhCXWZ— University of Oxford (@UniofOxford) July 20, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
it's what dee snider would've wanted
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
anyone who initially refuses to take this vaccine is not crazy imo. i mean they might be, but there are good reasons to be cautious.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/health/coronavirus-anti-vaccine.html
“The bottom line is I have absolutely no faith in the F.D.A. and in the Trump administration,” said Joanne Barnes, a retired fourth-grade teacher from Fairbanks, Alaska, who said she was otherwise always scrupulously up-to-date on getting her shots, including those for shingles, flu and pneumonia. “I just feel like there’s a rush to get a vaccine out, so I’m very hesitant.”...“The trust issues are just tremendous in the Black community,” said Edith Perry, a member of the Maryland Community Research Advisory Board, which seeks to ensure that the benefits of health research encompass Black and Latino communities....“If you’re smart, you’re worried we won’t have a vaccine, and if you’re smart, you’re worried that maybe we’ve moved so fast that we’ll accept a level of risk that we might not ordinarily accept,” said Sandra Crouse Quinn, a professor of public health at the University of Maryland.
i've posted elsewhere that i personally do not consider the FDA under trump in these circumstances trustworthy at all. i'm not 100% sold on the MHRA in the uk under johnson tbh. i'm waiting to see what better-run countries do (e.g. germany, south korea). if it's only recommended by the FDA, and especially if it's before the november election, i'm not touching it with a bargepoll.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link
yes I'm very much in the camp of "getting the vaccine but I wanna wait a few weeks first" right now
― frogbs, Monday, 20 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link
I'll wait for the 1.01 update to get pushed out.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link
I signed up as a trial volunteer https://www.coronaviruspreventionnetwork.org
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
i did too. hope I get selected
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
Yes obviously when you scroll down from that vaccine tweet it's just hundreds of people telling the University of Oxford that it's dumb and wrong.
― Matt DC, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, 20 July 2020 bookmarkflaglink
Really? I think it will undergo thorough testing. Looks like by the time it is tested, goes into production and we get it will be this time next year or maybe late spring but I don't see the testing being rushed.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link
I'm eager for a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine that doesn't have hypersensitivity issues upon viral challenge, which prevented the world from getting a SARS-1 vaccine. I salute those of you who have volunteered for early stage tests, you are heroes.
― Sanpaku, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
if I grow a third arm, I have plans for it
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
Really? I think it will undergo thorough testing. Looks like by the time it is tested, goes into production and we get it will be this time next year or maybe late spring but I don't see the testing being rushed.― xyzzzz__, Monday, July 20, 2020 6:22 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― xyzzzz__, Monday, July 20, 2020 6:22 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
it will undergo literally zero testing of side effects that take longer than X months to appear. this is true of all drugs, but X is going to be a much smaller number than it usually is for a vaccine in this case unless it takes them like 5 years to figure it out.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link
I can see the Trump admin installing people in high positions willing to rush something that maybe ain't 100% safe to get it out in time for the election
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
Hoping for a third eye myself.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
nope nope Nope nope Nope nope nope... Do not want this.
Carfì et al, 2020. Persistent symptoms in patients after acute covid-19. JAMA.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdZ-0VtWAAAdKnR?format=png
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
"sputum production" = underrated zappa album
― I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link
Fuck me, those responses to the vaccine tweet are why a vaccine is only going to be partially effective. I worry Uptake is going to be poor.
Inspired by silby I just volunteered to be part of a vaccine trial.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
And Neanderthal
“The bottom line is I have absolutely no faith in the F.D.A. and in the Trump administration,” said Joanne Barnes, a retired fourth-grade teacher from Fairbanks, Alaska, who said she was otherwise always scrupulously up-to-date on getting her shots, including those for shingles, flu and pneumonia. “I just feel like there’s a rush to get a vaccine out, so I’m very hesitant.”...“The trust issues are just tremendous in the Black community,” said Edith Perry, a member of the Maryland Community Research Advisory Board, which seeks to ensure that the benefits of health research encompass Black and Latino communities....“If you’re smart, you’re worried we won’t have a vaccine, and if you’re smart, you’re worried that maybe we’ve moved so fast that we’ll accept a level of risk that we might not ordinarily accept,” said Sandra Crouse Quinn, a professor of public health at the University of Maryland.i've posted elsewhere that i personally do not consider the FDA under trump in these circumstances trustworthy at all. i'm not 100% sold on the MHRA in the uk under johnson tbh. i'm waiting to see what better-run countries do (e.g. germany, south korea). if it's only recommended by the FDA, and especially if it's before the november election, i'm not touching it with a bargepoll.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, July 20, 2020 4:10 PM (six hours ago)
I think we should be cautious about this sort of FUD-ing. I share your reservations about the FDA, which predate the trump administration, but this is a bridge we can cross when we have some real data
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 July 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if, by the time data is in and higher priority health care workers, teachers, etc have had early access, there were 2-3 comparably effective vaccines, which will have undergone scrutiny in other jurisdictions in the EU and developed Asia.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
I think we should be cautious about this sort of FUD-ing. I share your reservations about the FDA, which predate the trump administration, but this is a bridge we can cross when we have some real data― k3vin k., Monday, July 20, 2020 10:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― k3vin k., Monday, July 20, 2020 10:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
i get what you're saying, but for me at least i don't think there *is* any data that would change my plans, i.e. don't take a vaccine that only the FDA is recommending while the current executive branch is in place.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link
Trump won’t be in a position to rush an untested vaccine to market before November, afterward he’s not going to care if he loses (and doesn’t start Civil War II).
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 07:10 (three years ago) link
If he wins then I’m going to try to get the rona and assassinate him via cough.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 07:11 (three years ago) link
Trump won’t be in a position to rush an untested vaccine to market before November, afterward he’s not going to care if he loses (and doesn’t start Civil War II).― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, July 21, 2020 3:10 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, July 21, 2020 3:10 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
if there are no adverse events then it sounds like the oxford one will be approved and in manufacturing in october and the US has reserved 300M doses.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 07:18 (three years ago) link
What about European regulatory bodies? Surely they will also want to say something about it too?
Just reckon any level of cover-up over side effects, or rushing, any gaps, would be found out.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link
But also there are no consequences for malevolence, criminality or stupidity these days, so who knows?
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link
What about European regulatory bodies? Surely they will also want to say something about it too?Just reckon any level of cover-up over side effects, or rushing, any gaps, would be found out.
i'm waiting to see what better-run countries do (e.g. germany, south korea).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link
FUCK FLORIDA
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/medical/concerns-arise-as-some-receive-positive-covid-19-results-but-never-got-tested/ar-BB16Wkwg?ocid=sf
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link
jeeeeeeezus
(also jfc that is some bad writing)
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link
RIP editors.
― brownie, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link
do editors have a phrase or a term to describe a recommendation for a total, mandatory re-write?
anyway, the story itself is crazy and bad too. i'm not sure how much the apparently numerous mishaps have affected the data, though - if i understood it correctly (and that's a BIG if with the writing), it seems like they getting the contact info/phone numbers wrong for many people, but i'm not sure why that would affect the overall counts for the state. still, what a massive pain in the ass for the people who have it "on their record" now
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
Yea it would seem like it just gave the wrong people notification rather than any inflation
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
“This is part of the testing mechanism problem. People are sitting in their cars, sometimes for hours, or standing in line, six feet apart sometimes for hours. You’re registered though, you’re number 15 in line, and you are Jay Wolfson. If Jay Wolfson says he can’t wait any longer and he leaves, it will get number 15 and now get Rebecca Fernandez, who was standing behind him, and she tests positive, and then everyone from then on gets the wrong results. There has to be a better way to do this,” explained Dr. Jay Wolfson, Public Health & Medicine Professor for the University of South Florida.
I love how Jay Wolfson is a character in a Dr. Jay Wolfson story
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link
xxxp Sure it doesn't affect the data as a snapshot of overall counts, but if people who are actually positive are being told they're negative and then going back to work or whatever, that is... not good for flattening the curve.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
holy shit what
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link