Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

I was dissing Warren not Biden there tbc

people care about that clarification

we know, Simon

Even among the people who are "upset" about voting for Biden, Warren is the contender who commands the most support. Granted, she polls behind "someone else," but well ahead of any other named choice.

― jaymc, Tuesday, July 21, 2020 2:46 PM (two hours ago

polling behind "someone else" is not an endorsement

I thought that was Simon's point

it's going to be kamala let's all like it already

yup :(

certainly the CW https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

my pick is warren or, failing that, karen bass (who will not run for P so someone better has a fair run after biden's term)

as long as she's an actual karen

xp I like both of them, but if it's kamala I think she will be great

it's possible even Biden's people are canny enough to know this is not a great time to pick a self-professed cop

a prosecutor is not a "cop," for fuck's sake, seriously?

If you want to argue specifically how Harris' record and her poor campaign eliminate her from consideration, I'm cool with it: I don't think she she should be on the short list. But "cop" as insult is just gross.

well on The Commish they showed Michael Chiklis doing street level busts so idk artistic liberty itt?

lol

we may disagree alfred but that remains a quite popular perception of harris

it's possible even Biden's people are canny enough to know this is not a great time to pick a self-professed cop

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:26 PM

people don't see her as a cop, self-professed or not

do we have data

Attorneys general are fond of calling themselves ‘top cops’ IIRC

we may disagree alfred but that remains a quite popular perception of harris

Not among normal people.

we may disagree alfred but that remains a quite popular perception of harris

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.),

on Twitter, sure

Biden and his people definitely DGAF even if she’s seen as one though.

That's a more legitimate argument, actually, because a politician's first instinct is cynicism.

Biden’s still on the more cop funding train, he’s not going to shun someone for being a prosecutor or cop.

oh ok

i prefer "major phony" for Harris

Thoughts

1. It is a nonzero possibility that Biden will die or resign in office.

2. Even if he doesn't, his VP will be a serious contender to succeed him.

3. Either way, this seems one of the surest extant paths to having a woman president.

4. I am on record as being a fervent Warren supporter, but! 4a. A ticket of two really old and really white northeasterners? Nope. And 4b. Warren has more power in the Senate and would likely be replaced by a Republican, no thanks.

5. No opinions beyond those, I would be okay with a lot of the current speculations

you're right except for 4b.

would have loved to see Elizabeth Warren as president, but as a 70-something year old vice president behind a 70-something year old president? no

make AOC speaker of House, third in line behbeh

too young for prez tho

Make AOC VP and promise to not die before she turns 35

Wait no

I think it's gotta be Demings –– she's got cop cred that'll appease scared white folks

Biden has been a politician a long time, so it is quite possible he will heed the small voice within, which warns him not to select anyone whose superiority to himself will be obvious in any way. That's a burden few presidents would care to face for an entire term of office, even if one who obliquely hints that he's not interested in a second term.

Many xposts to many, but I don't know a single person in my non-ILX life other than my boomer parents who refers to Harris as anything except 'Cop-mala.'

Was it Carlin who said DAs were lower than a snake's asshole?

prosecutors work in law enforcement, there’s nothing outrageous about calling them cops

I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon

i don't even own a Nixon

Judges also work in law enforcement. So do defense attorneys. To anyone who is alive to fine distinctions, such as the difference between an orange and a tangerine, a prosecutor's job looks nothing like the job done by cops. But apparently some people are not alive to such fine nuances.

This is willful disingenuity and suggests you are totally blinkered to how DAs function in most cities—arm and arm with the police department. That’s not a value judgment...it’s just the way it is.

I am also curious about whether or not ILX has the same sensitivities to the nonpejorative “Top Cop” commonly applied to the AG in this country.

xxxp

Many xposts to many, but I don't know a single person in my non-ILX life other than my boomer parents who refers to Harris as anything except 'Cop-mala.'

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, July 21, 2020

you should listen to your boomer parents

This is willful disingenuity and suggests you are totally blinkered to how DAs function in most cities—arm and arm with the police department. That’s not a value judgment...it’s just the way it is.

― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, July 21, 2020

yes, arm and arm with the police department

Uh...yeah. They do. The work with the police to collect and produce evidence.

Literally.

I've never referred to the Attorney General of the United States as "Top Cop", in either a pejorative or non-pejorative context. Nor do I ever hear this usage, nor read it. So, I am inclined to doubt it is commonly applied. But maybe I live under a rock.

Aimless I know you are your own search engine, but just...look it up?

OK I searched Google for: "Attorney General" "United States" "Top Cop"
It returned: About 53,800 results.

For comparison, a search on: "Attorney General" "United States" "ratfucker"
It returned: About 28,600 results

search for "Attorney General" "Archie Bunker"
About 329,000 results