Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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"One word from Clyburn and a certain demo snapped to it!"

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

I can see where Biden may have had a reasonable thought hidden inside that poorly expressed, to the point of idiocy, statement. Maybe what he was thinking, but washed all sense out of, is the idea that the overwhelming majority of African-Americans in the USA are descendants of slaves brought the USA prior to 1850, which makes them very long-term multi-generational Americans. as opposed to recent immigrants. The Latino community, otoh, contains members from every Latin American nation, which represents a really wide diversity of cultures as different as Cuba, El Salvador, Mexico, Puerto Rico, or Chile.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

There's a lot of scrabble pieces rattling around in his skull

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

It's legit the sort of thing someone his age would say and then if you were like ' excuse Me' he'd be like 'you know what I mean!' and get all flustered

God we're so fucked

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

Biden trying to express the fact that there was a specific African-American ethnogenesis that occurred due to the slave trade:

"Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community"

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

All those classified briefings on all those critical subjects over all those years and most of what comes out of his brain looks like so many lint-covered peppermint candies fished out of an old suit coat pocket.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

You're all missing it. What he was saying is "blacks are a reliable Democratic constituency, except for a few whack jobs like Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson, unlike Latinos, who vote Republican in significant numbers in ways that often correlate to national origin."

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

I can see where Biden may have had a reasonable thought hidden inside that poorly expressed, to the point of idiocy, statement. Maybe what he was thinking, but washed all sense out of

He expanded on his thoughts at another teleconference this afternoon.

This is the hill Biden's apparently going to die on. This afternoon he appeared in a virtual roundtable and doubled down on his “Latinos have a more diverse culture than blacks” take pic.twitter.com/j8azhzL5YJ

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) August 6, 2020

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

lmao

One thing I learned knocking doors during the primaries was that if the house had this font, they were voting for Warren. pic.twitter.com/8J0CSL96Vr

— Cory (@Substituted_) August 6, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

it's tim kaine

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 August 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

wait til Biden finds out Toni Morrison didn't like Hamilton

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link

wait til he realizes Hamilton isn't about George Hamilton

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

i mean, he's saying "latino" doesn't denote just one ethnicity or national origin. mexican-americans and cuban-americans trace their heritage from different countries and also have had different immigrant experiences. in contrast, african-americans have a shared history in america that can be traced back before independence.

treeship., Friday, 7 August 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link

it kind of makes sense i just don't understand the relevance of the point.

and of course, it falls apart once you consider the true diversity of people in america. there are afro-latinos, there are people who immigrated here from various parts of africa, etc.

treeship., Friday, 7 August 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

re Biden's video on taking a cognitive test:

It's amusing that his instant comparison is that the TV reporter should take a test for cocaine use before coming on air.

the pinefox, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

His best position is in the basement and he's done really well there over the last 10 weeks. Changing formation and playing him out of position just behind the microphone and camera is unfathomable

anvil, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:22 (three years ago) link

Imagine Biden talking our way into a second Trump term. (I mean, I think it's unlikely but imagine)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 7 August 2020 08:23 (three years ago) link

Not that we shouldn't all be completely terrified even if Biden does go back to his hole since he's clearly not competent to handle the challenges we're going to face over the next 24 months.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 7 August 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link

It's amusing that his instant comparison is that the TV reporter should take a test for cocaine use before coming on air.

It's very amusing that, hours before insisting that black Americans have no culture, his first thought to attack a black American with was that people should assume he does cocaine, and even more amusing that Biden doesn't know the difference between a heroin addict and a cocaine user.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 7 August 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

Y'know, I'm getting the feeling that this Biden guy might be racist.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 7 August 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

god, could my dad drive a car. oof

||||||||, Friday, 7 August 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link

Biden sits mute as Democrats & Republicans savage Karen Bass for a few bland remarks she made about Cuba and Fidel Castro, then hires a rightwing, viciously anti-Cuba Republican hack to "rev up" Latinx for his campaign...https://t.co/5dcf9GAKVs

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) August 7, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

Ana Navarro is the pits.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

If he picks Kamala it will just confirm what everyone thinks—that he is just a mannequin being propped up by the party who isn’t in control of his own campaign. If I was Biden, I would pick someone who I at least knew and liked, just to remind people I am alive.

treeship., Friday, 7 August 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

"everyone"

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

itt a bunch of white guys who can't process the idea that some people actually like/respect Kamala Harris

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

i like her

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

i can process it, looking at the other con artists people like/respect

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

I’m not saying I mind her. I just don’t think she’s the person Biden would want to govern with. Could be wrong

treeship., Friday, 7 August 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

So long as the pick isn't older or male-er, I don't give a damn whom Joe Biden picks tbh

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

sorry to say he's announced that his VP will be Norman Mailer

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

I would like to see him choose Kamala Harris

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link

A shame Flannery O'Connor's dead.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

I tried holding Biden at gunpoint every day but each time he just said "come on, jack..."

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

Oh shit I can’t believe he chose Joe Arpaio.

Boring, Maryland, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

I definitely like/respect Kamala. She was impressive in cross-examination during the Kavanaugh and various other hearings. She's smart and she controls the witness well, which is hard to do. I think she's smart and tough. To the extent the VP job requires a hatchetwoman she will excel.

I also get some of the criticisms of her. I wish she had a better record on police reform/criminal justice, but no one with a legit record in this area is going to get picked by Biden.

Alfred is ultimately right: the VP pick is nearly meaningless.

Mom jokes are his way of showing affection (to your mom) (PBKR), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

Did I say she is smart? At least one of us is.

Mom jokes are his way of showing affection (to your mom) (PBKR), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

re Biden's video on taking a cognitive test:
It's amusing that his instant comparison is that the TV reporter should take a test for cocaine use before coming on air.
― the pinefox

Exactly what I thought--immediately--when I watched that clip. I suppose Biden's defense would be he's pointing out the perniciousness of stereotypes--black = cocaine / old = Alzheimer's--but not a helpful comparison.

clemenza, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

(Especially when the response was so quick that he's not consciously pointing out anything, he's just reacting.)

clemenza, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

Harris is smart, but so are plenty of people.

It's just such a drag that in order to be a successful politician in this country, you have to shred any sense of ethics or genuine compassion for other people.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

if all that seemed fine for his brain to say what on earth was he teeing up before he stopped himself??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

Bill Clinton was smart. What good did that do us?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

Obama seemed to project genuine empathy while ordering the drone bombing of Americans. Politicians, especially good ones, aren't jus' folks.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

Who are these mythical people who are uniformly empathetic towards everyone at all times? They literally don't exist.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

Exactly.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

If you want to see me set fire to my empathy, eavesdrop when a student asks for a Zoom conference to discuss a paper thirty minutes into the cocktail hour.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

AOC gets the closest :)

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

set fire to my empathy

Adele's finest

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

and i should say, she exudes empathy toward people who seem to deserve it, at least.
xp

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

Who are these mythical people who are uniformly empathetic towards everyone at all times? They literally don't exist.

no one actually asked for this AFAICT

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link


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