Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

Nothing is gained by taking the approach that anyone on ILE thinks Biden is even a good candidate, so take that.

don't see "extreme incompetence" and condescension

Nothing is gained by taking the approach that anyone on ILE thinks Biden is even a good candidate, so take that.

Not naming names but lol

The shift from grudging lesser evil to the “actually, he’s good” unmasking has been pretty obvious.

whatever

don't see .... condescension

.@JoeBiden popped into @djdnice Instagram party tonight to show a little love. The party is now over 100k strong 💪🏾🙌🏾 Congrats D! pic.twitter.com/PnIszQPrOV

— Symone D. Sanders (@SymoneDSanders) March 22, 2020

i have here in my hand a list of 205 ilxors who are card-carrying members of the "actually, biden is good" party

XP that's too meta for me

trust me, sic knows from condescension

The shift from grudging lesser evil to the “actually, he’s good” unmasking has been pretty obvious.

(I don't think this is happening btw, just ppl reallocating their emotional resources and toggling "resignation" on the candidate switch, since caring can't change anything.)

((This ^ is also the result the powerbrokers wanted, but there are still other races and downballot candidates to care about.))

sictopher nolan taking us deeper into the parentheticals

how dare u

anyway, the intel says Chinese interference will be on Biden's behalf, so good luck, China bots

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/us-intel-russia-trying-to-hurt-biden-but-china-iran-dont-want-trump.html

Twitter's Bryan Lee would presumably have withheld support from FDR

Joe Biden can ride a bike while wearing a mask. Trump needs help from a General to walk down a ramp.

pic.twitter.com/fz3Oh5kjg8

— Bryan Lee (@FamousBL3) August 8, 2020

FDR needed no one to wheel his chair, thank you

Morbs is right, Trump is really the activist for disabled rights that that community needs right now.

Joe Bikin'

akm, sit 'n spin

don't see "extreme incompetence"

From the full piece, what did you make of his responses about whether the pandemic has exposed any limits in the American healthcare system (no it hasn't), or if restoring the Voting Rights Act with the filibuster in place will be a problem (no bcz once they're not afraid of mean tweets from their pals, Republicans in the senate will vote their conscience and pass President Biden legislation without a supermajority, he's worked with the senate before and got a lot done), or how the destruction of the postal service is just a trifle (because... his GOTV promotions team hope they'll be able to raise enough money to pre-pay for postage on the ballots????!), or white supremacists (they can be convinced, except if left alone they'll get worse, except the ones murdering people in Charlottesville and the like are the Klan so regular workaday white supremacists aren't the -- look, jack, have you had your cocaine test yet)?

https://youtu.be/iCpyx2T-lDA

(I'll allow that most politicians might not have better answers - even if they'd be better at faking it - so maybe "profound" rather than "extreme." {but anyone running for office SHOULD have better answers!} homeboy has absolutely no grasp on how 2020 differs from 1989 or 2008 or 2019 though: he thinks there's a status quo where everything is okay for nearly everybody, and that this will snap into place the second he receives votes in November.)

Anyone who likes Biden and thinks he is good is delusional.

Progressive groups are quietly preparing to make a big push on judicial nominations under a Biden presidency. Watching McConnell/Trump sweep the courts has jolted them to act.

“A big lesson is making sure judges are a priority on day one." https://t.co/I2F0tCupX8 w/ @aterkel

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) August 10, 2020

Let's hope those quiet preparations are competent and thorough, including laying some groundwork in the Senate, especially in the Judiciary Committee, and most especially with Senator Feinstein being the ranking Democrat on that Committee, who'd be the Chair if the Senate flips.

Progressive Groups

Rush, Yes, and ELP have some opinions about originalism and judicial restraint

Be Unhappy With What You Have To Be Unhappy With

The Circuit Appeals Court of the Crimson King

In the Wake of JoeBiden

Lizard

In the Wake of JoeBiden

A+

🎵 Last night I dreamt of Joe Biden
Just like I'd never gone, I knew the song
Old man with eyes like a phantom
It all seems like yesterday, not far away

Obama, the island breeze
They ruled together, wild and free
D.C. is where he longs to be
The Cis-Het White Geezer
And when the hard rock played
The drones would fly so high
Rip through the clouds and strike nearby
Your Centrist Lullaby 🎵

kudos

tell me, who's that Biden?
Joe the Legislator

^Excellent!

Anyone who likes Biden and thinks he is good is delusional.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, August 9, 2020 6:38 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

What does it mean to "like" him and think he is "good"? I find plenty to criticize about Biden's track record and worry that some of his views, and his overall approach to politics, remains stuck in the past. He also seems like a decent guy who is willing to work hard to improve people's lives. He's not who I would have chosen to lead the Democratic Party into the future, though he may well be a useful instrument at this moment.

So, I like him *with reservations* and think he is good *to an extent*. And I hope that those of us on his left continue to push him to change for the better instead of just writing him off as Bad.

Morbs is right, Trump is really the activist for disabled rights that that community needs right now.

― akm, Saturday, August 8, 2020 2:55 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

since he only processes things based on how it affects him, i'd bet he's on the record bitching about accessibility laws and being a fucking asshole about how much money he had to spend on ramps and accessible doors to all his gaudy shitshacks

jaymc, I will vote for Biden, but I will honestly say that the only reason is because I live in PA. If I still lived in California, I wouldn't vote *for president* in this next election, because I think he's an execrable human being who has an execrable policy record, and I also hate the government.

I also hate the government

Why vote at all, then?

take it from me, no matter where you live, not voting does not make the government disappear

i got a letter from the government once

xp True. Why not vote for Republicans, then?

Oh I know, I just wouldn't see much of the point of it in California.

Lol if you're actually going to play some "if you hate the govt. you must be Republican" shit, then I have many many books to sell you from the AK Press and Verso Book catalogs.

If you don’t like the government, don’t vote - a winning strategy for the party out of power.

He also seems like a decent guy who is willing to work hard to improve people's lives

I think Anita Hill and a long list of many other people might disagree with that impression.

Lol if you're actually going to play some "if you hate the govt. you must be Republican" shit, then I have many many books to sell you from the AK Press and Verso Book catalogs.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, August 10, 2020 5:41 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, I don't know what those are. (Of course I don't, that's why you mentioned them.) My point wasn't that "you must be Republican," it's that voting for a Republican would seem like a better strategy for someone who hates the government. I get that you're probably an anarchist of some kind, but left-wing anti-government forces don't wield much influence in electoral politics.

I think Anita Hill and a long list of many other people might disagree with that impression.

― Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Monday, August 10, 2020 5:52 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's an impression. I don't expect others to share it. And Anita Hill has every right to be upset with and disappointed by Joe Biden.

Jesus, that’s some weaselly shit.

here's my impression of Joe Biden

listen, jack

If you don’t like the government, don’t vote - a winning strategy for the party out of power.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, August 10, 2020 5:48 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's not a suggestion. I would greatly prefer that everyone in this thread vote for Biden. I'm just curious about table's motivations.

Listen, Jack, segregationists weren’t that bad. Good on defense. You could really work with em to get some projects for your state, you know?

I am pretty sure I have never praised or defended Biden. And don't think I ever will.

The only thing I will say in defense of his candidacy right now is that he may get the votes of some moderates who would have been spooked by a more ilx-approved candidate. And if (IF) the surest path to defeating Trump turns out to be something like "don't scare the centrists," then he might be adequate at that.

That said, he's the candidate we have. We will never know if a different candidate would have done as well, or better, while not also sucking. That's like three layers of pointless hypothetical counterfactuals.

So IMO I think it's a strawman argument to suggest that if we don't continually point out how much he sucks, here on this thread, there's a danger that people will start thinking he is - and I quote - "the eighth wonder of the world."

I don't think there's any danger of anybody here thinking that. I am not aware that anyone here supported him or voted for him in the primaries. No one here is, or was, enthusiastic about him. Feel free to correct me (with citations) if I'm wrong.