Purple Mountains (RIP David Berman, August 2019)

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of all the songs on the snow is falling in manhattan is the least grim to me and the most pretty and kind

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:05 (two months ago) link

I agree

Duke, Monday, 10 August 2020 16:18 (two months ago) link

I also thought the new record seemed hopeful, then and now. Obviously presenting super heavy stuff, but in a way that felt like ripping off a band aid rather than diving into the abyss or w/e. Ending it with "Stoyline Fever" and "Maybe I'm the Only One For Me" seemed like a big statement to me, a powerful combination of songs that seems to have something to say about how with some work you may discover that you're bigger than your problems. I couldnt really get on board when after his death people started parsing the lyrics for any reference to absence, exit, or finality as saying that the record felt like a suicide note, I just didn't see it. (Also I feel like if David Berman actually sat down and wanted to do a Blackstar-style album about his own impending death, it would be like 100x more scary and intense than PM.)

That being said I've barely been able to listen to it since his passing, aside from "Snow" which I'm more & more convinced is the best thing he ever did.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:28 (two months ago) link

^all OTM

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:33 (two months ago) link

That's a take I would like to believe in even if I'm not sure. Definitely OTM about "Snow", however.

Mom jokes are his way of showing affection (to your mom) (PBKR), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:43 (two months ago) link

I don't find the album that depressing, there's a lot of funny stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:49 (two months ago) link

depressing is never depressing because it's ~relatable~

Thicc Nhat Wanh (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:57 (two months ago) link

I still have trouble listening to it (or any Silver Jews, to be honest). i'll dig back in at some point, but for now it feels rough.

tylerw, Monday, 10 August 2020 16:57 (two months ago) link

"Nights That Won't Happen" does feel a bit morbid now, I admit.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:14 (two months ago) link

very much so. i think the album is full of really sad, poignant observations on life, much like his other albums. squint a little bit and you can see hints of the darkness to come, both on PM and the earlier SJ albums, but you can also see him coming to grips with what it would mean to push on. it's all of those things, throughout his work.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:17 (two months ago) link

It's very probably not a deliberate "suicide note", but describing an album containing the thoughts of Nights... or That's Just... or All My Happiness... as "hopeful" just seems way off to me. He was in a bad place.

Duke, Monday, 10 August 2020 20:02 (two months ago) link

it's hopeful to me because, for the most part, it seems like he was making an effort. there's hope in the effort.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2020 20:07 (two months ago) link

the weird thing about people who kill themselves is often that just before they do it, they seem happy and relaxed. when the decision is made there must be a big load coming off their back.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:04 (two months ago) link

personally that's not the vibe I get tbh

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:30 (two months ago) link

i think it's an album about facing depression, frankly, with humility and humor. the self-deprecating parts of the album are humane, not self-lacerating, and actually finding that narrow line and walking it.

treeship., Monday, 10 August 2020 21:36 (two months ago) link

the disease took him in the end but this is the testimony of a survivor. if it wasn't, then "nights that won't happen" would have been the final track rather than "maybe i'm the only one for me."

treeship., Monday, 10 August 2020 21:37 (two months ago) link

otm

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:38 (two months ago) link

Has this made the rounds? I found it today and it made me smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXLcpX2xUt4

For all his grouchy reclusive mystique, I get the impression that it seems like he really enjoyed dishing out little bits of himself like that, little painless things that he knew people would find special.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:59 (two months ago) link

Mounting mileage on the dash
Double darkness falling fast
I keep stressing, pressing on
Way deep down at some substratum
Feels like something really wrong has happened
And I confess I'm barely hanging on

circa1916, Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:32 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I don’t know if it’s worth arguing whether this album is hopeful or resigned. It’s both. Guy was obviously in a battle. Love it to so much though, still finding corners and lines from it that hit me hard a zillion listens in.

circa1916, Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:36 (two months ago) link

xpost those lines are so good

alpine static, Saturday, 15 August 2020 20:46 (two months ago) link


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