ADMIN LOG WATCH 2

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(This is ribbing of the gentlest variety, I assure you.)

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

the only thing ill be pissing on is sir keir starmer

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Is that a threat?

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

it's a promise

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

Pissing is tolerable unless you knowingly use your urethra to spread covid, maybe.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

i stand by my position that onimo's post was dumb

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

I'm honestly surprised at some of the people defending this behaviour, and obviously there are personal relationships behind the scenes that I'm unaware, but it strikes me as pretty hypocritical coming from some of you.

https://i.imgur.com/MwJUPab.jpg

"So Calz was gulag'd because a mod for some reason felt an example needed to be set, and chose to build the gulag out of completely random and dime a dozen calz-banter posts. Stern stuff." - LBI otm.

This is such execrable moderation and the goalposts have been moved around so much within this thread it's hard to take the moderators seriously or in good faith. Calz says he's received no explanation or email and there is clearly no consensus on why he has been banned. emil.y says there have been 'repeated death threats', Matt disagrees and says "he was just ranting as he usually does and went over a line. It wasn't a death threat but it could have been taken as one by someone not familiar with the ins and outs of these boards" (which apparently includes some of the people moderating it). Perhaps it's that posting a photo of a mural with a woman's breasts either sides of Corbz's bonce that has been posted several times before and received p widespread coverage in the mnstrm media now counts as "gross sexual imagery"? The man himself suspected that at least one moderator has been bearing a grudge for a long time. It's hard not to think there is political animus behind this when this banning is such a pure example of weathervane centrist posturing to reinforce polite and sensible manners. No one thinks calzino is comparable to Thomas Mair (not really an 'acceptable' thing to imply about another poster either really but anyway) so bringing up the murder of Jo Cox is an absurd bit of moral panic and lends weight to the thought that his banning is an act of empty gesture politics and optics disingenuously employed to make an example out of a political opponent in a manner worthy of Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB QC MP. The alleged silent meltjority of ilx has been unwilling or unable to contest calzino's politics but you occasionally hear grumbling about tankies or people tutting at the mention of gulags, and yet here we see calzino banished to the naughty step without consensus, coherent explanation or show trial. As long as an unrepresentative and unelected group of south-east chattering class enforcers can convince themselves that their opponents are unreasonable and "really not ok" in whatever climate they feel they might be living in, who are we to object when they make an example out of them?

rumpy riser (ogmor), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

It's.........a three-day tempban.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

it's the virtual gulag!

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

localized entirely within your kitchen?

peace, man, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

No one thinks calzino is comparable to Thomas Mair (not really an 'acceptable' thing to imply about another poster either really but anyway) so bringing up the murder of Jo Cox is an absurd bit of moral panic and lends weight to the thought that his banning is an act of empty gesture politics and optics disingenuously employed to make an example out of a political opponent in a manner worthy of Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB QC MP.

The Thomas Mair thing is what really pissed me off - the reference to Mair as an 'internet hardman' which, by the way, he wasn't but, by implication calzino is - gtf!

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

Mods, delete this thread plz, thx:

Stabbing

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

Huh, there's no Stabbing Westward thread.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

Stabbing is a town in New Hampshire between Tamworth and Sandwich. I guess destroy a whole town now, mods?

it's a spicy dinner we're having (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

some of you could really stand to calm down imho

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

Maybe a mod could yellowcard them with a message reading "CALM DOWN".

peace, man, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

a temp ban is not the same as a yellow card ... having been on the receiving end of both ... having not seen the actual offending post, I can't say whether it would have crossed the "creepy" line or not, whether the subject was a horrible ruler of ilxors or some milquetoast celebrity ala Rachael Ray or Zooey Deschanel.

As a poster, I think emil.y is generally sensible and reasonable tbh.

sarahell, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

but i also feel like post deletion, a yellow card, and no ban would have been the most appropriate response in my recovering shit-stirrer opinion

sarahell, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

I infrequently post to another board where I've had multiple posts deleted altogether because they contained the merest whiff of exceptionally-tepid political commentary. Which (while annoying) I figure is the right of whoever owns and moderates the board if they feel that violates the spirit of the board.

Folks moderate with such a light touch here it's like the world is ending whenever it happens. But I assure you that it's still rotating directly next to the sun just like always (as is my understanding of planetary movement).

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

i would strongly support more comedy modding including of this very post DUH I AM A SUBMORON DUH

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

we need a mod that will run ilx like a business

it's a spicy dinner we're having (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Calz says he's received no explanation or email and there is clearly no consensus on why he has been banned.

This is really seriously not OK. If you are going to punish people, you *have* to tell them what you are punishing them for, how and why. Otherwise it's arbitrary and unreasonable and effectively just social shunning.

That goes double if the person is anywhere near the spectrum, and you're just expecting them to somehow ~intuit~ from being banned, what they were banned for, especially when other people are doing the same thing.

I was suggest banned under the old system, during a particularly shit time in my life, with no explanation or context *ever* provided, and I'll be honest - it nearly drove me to suicide. (I can distinctly remember Matt DC calling my work, to make sure I was still alive.) DO NOT DO THIS SHIT TO OTHERS. It is so not OK.

Branwell with an N, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

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peace, man, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

Oh. Can't link to the Admin Log then.

peace, man, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

I still have no idea what transpired here tbh, except that stabbing was somehow involved and that it was edgier (heh heh) than usual for reasons unexplained (citation very much needed). Is the quantity of such posts the culprit (straw, camel, back, etc.) or are we to blame the quality of the latest exemplar in the series (which, once again, no one appears to have glimpsed aside from the mods almighty)?

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

so wait -- is one of the ppl in the picture ogmor posted wearing a camel-hair coat made from a camel stabbed by an internet hardman?

sarahell, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/JvHmbZC.jpg

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Admin Log Watch 3 is gonna be off the chain

Evan, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Calz says he's received no explanation or email and there is clearly no consensus on why he has been banned.

The Admin Log entry makes it pretty clear why he was tempbanned FWIW.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

I do not know with what weapons Admin Log Watch 3 will be fought, but Admin Log Watch 4 will be fought with shivs and woodchippers

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

Stabbing fantasies and repellent imagery are not OK.

'Fantasy' and 'imagery' are notoriously vague concepts by design.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

who watches the admin log watch hardmen

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

_ Calz says he's received no explanation or email and there is clearly no consensus on why he has been banned._


The Admin Log entry makes it pretty clear why he was tempbanned FWIW.


1) not everyone reads the admin log or even knows it’s there
2) is the point not that you might expect even an automated notification of the ban rather than finding out through reading a thread like this?

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

WATCH 2 MIN LOG AD

Evan, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

. The alleged silent meltjority of ilx has been unwilling or unable to contest calzino's politics but you occasionally hear grumbling about tankies or people tutting at the mention of gulags, and yet here we see calzino banished to the naughty step without consensus, coherent explanation or show trial.

you are fucking delusional if you think e.mily banned him in order to repress his political viewpoint

treeship., Monday, 10 August 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

hi treesh I do not think that pls don't engage with my posts they're not for you

rumpy riser (ogmor), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

Repellent imagery is not OK

rumpy riser (ogmor), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

ilx posts with striking imagery

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

Remeltant imagoery on the other hand

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

i'm sorry. this is sick.

questioning the mods' decision makes sense. (in this case they laid out clearly why he was temp-banned). disagreeing with their thinking is of course, allowed. but dark insinuations that is is part of a larger conspiracy to repress the left, or else that this is some kind of arbitrary bullying, it's just nos upportable and it's not respectful of the mods, who are unpaid and do their best to keep the board a semi-civil space.

treeship., Monday, 10 August 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

ok, i have no wish to join a mod pile-on - i, too, think that the mods have the right to moderate the board however they see fit. that said, it is clear that this specific use of mod power has caused widespread user dissatisfaction, and think it would be good if experiences like this were mitigated or minimized to the greatest extent possible. i do agree with idea that it would be good to be more transparency around banning, particularly to the person being banned (since as has been pointed out being banned from this board can be a highly unpleasant experience) but also to the board in general. the whole moderation infrastructure comes across to me as maybe a little kludge-y? for instance, every ban issued coming across as a permaban because the tempban feature is broken. that's not really good for transparency, i don't think.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

Talking of respectful, how about choosing to bring up 'internet hardman' Thomas Mair when explaining why an ILXor was banned?

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

Folks moderate with such a light touch here it's like the world is ending whenever it happens

Folks generally moderate so well here that it really sticks out when they get one wrong.

オニモ (onimo), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

Since we're discussing mod practices, was I the only one bothered by this?

I am giving you advice. you have nearly 40 fps. you are generally disliked. consider your approach.

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, August 2, 2020 12:24 AM (one week ago)

rob, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that thoroughly sucked.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

is he a mod again?

treeship., Monday, 10 August 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure, but I don't know how else he would know a user's FP count

rob, Monday, 10 August 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

i agree that making that comment publicly was bad form

treeship., Monday, 10 August 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link


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