Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

lol (to George Benson)

The immediate market plunge as soon as this news was released is the best evidence that Kamala was a good choice, at least w/r/t Biden's election chances

the spirit of the Party starts to come alive

Kamala Harris the first Asian American person on a major party presidential ticket. https://t.co/6GGt8TGFOS

— Angry Asian Man (@angryasianman) August 11, 2020

Biden may lose voters

It's more that he's unlikely to win any more voters among trve lefties, but that already seemed like a longshot. I'd say it's a fine pick, strategically speaking, uninspiring though it may seem to me and most ILXors.

lol i'm .. relieved it isn't pete

I don’t get it. She can help him deliver California...which is Dem already? Please explain

It's more that he's unlikely to win any more voters among trve lefties, but that already seemed like a longshot. I'd say it's a fine pick, strategically speaking, uninspiring though it may seem to me and most ILXors.

― stabbing fantaisiste, repellent imagiste (pomenitul),

oh I spoke for my younger BLM friends, all of whom have said they'll reluctantly vote for Biden. The posturing FB and Twitter friends of theirs, however....they're numerically insignificant, though.

I don’t get it. She can help him deliver California...which is Dem already? Please explain

― calstars, Tuesday, August 11, 202

The theory is she gets older POC excited.

I think the idea is that the conventional wisdom about a VP pick helping to deliver a swing state is vastly overstated.

She'll probably excite the hell out of older black voters -- a demographic not amply represented on ILX iirc.

I do wonder if she moves the needle at all for Indian Americans

She can help make it seem like at least one of our political parties is not made up entirely of white grandpas.

I wonder about that too. Seems very likely, but maybe not statistically significant.

xp

always thought the perfect choice would've been Tammy Baldwin

[x] woman
[x] from a swing state
[x] very popular
[?] wants to be VP

It's more about not losing key voters, rather than gaining them.

If picking Kamala earns even a few Black voters in the Carolinas or upper Midwest, it's a net gain.

Of course there's a "she's a COP, I'm OUT" vote - possibly represented here in this thread. But where do they live? If the answer is predominantly New York and California then it's hard to see the net loss.

I figured it was a long shot given that Illinois is not in play, but I was kind of hoping for Duckworth.

her being a cop is a vague edge problem at worst

compared to Tim Kaine I feel pretty good about it

Well, yeah,

her being a cop is a vague edge problem at worst

Feel free to reply with 'educate yourself' but I thought that was the main gripe? Admittedly, I'm not as conversant in US politics as everyone else here.

Duckworth would have been fine but she hasn't distinguished herself as any better than Harris ideologically and troop vs. cop is a real Sophie's choice imo

With the announcement that Sen. Kamala Harris will be Joe Biden's running mate in the 2020 election, we're seeing a lot of traffic to some of our past fact checks about her.

Here are the ratings of what we've covered already. Thread: https://t.co/vIR4Ev0q0D

— snopes.com (@snopes) August 11, 2020

for your uncles

I remember nothing about Tim Kaine except that he gave off Peggy Hill Spanish teacher vibes

Kamala is a star. That seems to count for a lot in Pres politics.

why were people worried it would be pete? biden said he would pick a woman

there was a private flight from south bend to biden's nearest airport this week iiuc

always thought the perfect choice would've been Tammy Baldwin

― frogbs, Tuesday, August 11, 2020 4:11 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't know how popular she is locally these days, mostly because she supports bringing F-35s to the Madison airport. I do see her at the co-op sometimes though.

I don't know that there was serious worry, but someone tweeted about a private plane flying to Wilmington from South Bend yesterday and people got all weird.

heh

NBC News: According to California state records, President Trump -- while a private citizen -- twice donated to Kamala Harris while she was a candidate for state AG.

A total of $6,000 in 2011 and 2013 combined.

Image: pic.twitter.com/rbOiMbdQ4L

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) August 11, 2020

excited to do some door-to-door canvassing for kamala!!!!!!!!! pic.twitter.com/TncywtHnG0

— p.e. moskowitz (@_pem_pem) August 11, 2020

The predictable takes rolling right in as scheduled.

predictable take otm tbf

does anyone disagree that she's the most difficult pick from the POV of the trump campaign?

there was a private flight from south bend to biden's nearest airport this week iiuc

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:25 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

pete might be getting a different cabinet post

pete for secretary of state

does anyone disagree that she's the most difficult pick from the POV of the trump campaign?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:34 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

in the sense that they can't say the democrats support "lawlessness" now? they'll still say it

does anyone disagree that she's the most difficult pick from the POV of the trump campaign?

secretary of sick Dave jams

fox news seemed legitimately scared by harris if vitriolic comments about her from my fox news viewing father are anything to go by

least bad option for buttigieg is he's being picked to do some build-an-app deloitte vaccine rollout contact tracing nonsense

no one will care about the donations

caek OTM. Every "she's a COP" take can potentially undercut at least some of the TrumpGOP law-and-order "BIDEN WANTS TO ABOLISH COPS" takes.

treeship is right of course - they'll say it anyway. But possibly fewer people will believe it? (he said hopefully)

CLAIM: Senator Kamala Harris is the aunt of actor Jussie Smollett.

guilty lol at the sheer laziness of this one

Actually/ironically, one of Asshole's most prevalent bullshit claims is that he's done prison reform or sentencing reform or some other shit he probably had no hand in - this is the root of his claim he's done more for black people (black people=crime) than anyone since Lincoln (maybe) - so he will criticize her for being *too* tough on crime. And in the next breath do his law and order thing, because of course he will.

does anyone disagree that she's the most difficult pick from the POV of the trump campaign?

She'll demolish Pence in a VP debate, but then he might just not bother doing the debates (or the entire GOP might not). I still reckon Warren would have made a better 17hrs/7days campaigner.

Here's what they've got so far. It's kind of marvelous in its incoherence.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfKsXZ6WkAEHjHy.jpg

in the sense that they can't say the democrats support "lawlessness" now? they'll still say it

― treeship., Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:40 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

true but there's not a pick where they would say "ok, she's pretty good" and not say something.

that's the attack, but coming from them, for the audience it's intended to reach, it's just not an effective line of attack. i think they probably know this: they and their surrogates have for months been simultaneously/incoherently arguing that she is too tough on crime too.

his communications people have done a good job capturing his "voice," or at least what it would sound like if he communicated in full sentences

"political living will" is brutal

"phony Kamala"

Oof. He went nuclear. It's over, RIP Biden/Harris campaign.