The BBC

they did a fantastic, atmospheric and top notch radio production of The Plague a couple of weeks back and I listened to it on a long walk and was more than whelmed by it and was thinking this will piss off some Tory wankers. Dr. Bernard Rieux was voiced by a woman with a distinctive Caribbean accent and of course she had a wife who died of a different disease etc.. First respondent on their Feedback show on Sunday was some tory twat complaining that this was all wrong with the context of the Jim Crow/colonial era the book was written in etc .. oh go fuck yourself!

has anybody ever gotten any sort of satisfactory response from a bbc complaint

I complained about the existence of Paul Martin more than once, but he's still alive on the air. Highly unsatisfactory.

> has anybody ever gotten any sort of satisfactory response from a bbc complaint

Samira Ahmed

i've complained about a couple of things and the "i'm sorry you feel that way" responses are so fn infuriating.

"many of our viewers enjoy watching far right propagandists"

Really pitiful stuff on DTJR

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53884591

He is also admired for his boldness - he has aligned himself with colourful characters.

During his speeches, he bounces on his feet like a boxer in the ring.

That's one way of describing the shakes I guess

The BBC has a Disinformation reporter.

https://voices.media/bbcs-specialist-disinformation-reporter-marianna-spring-proactively-countering-conspiracies/

Nick Robinson retweets her and says 'get your news from trusted new organizations'.

It's like Henry Kissinger and the Nobel Peace Prize all over again, or whatever.

A sad reminder that fake news spreads like a virus & kills but it’s man made and there is a cure for it. Get your news from trusted news organisations not “friends” or “someone who heard” or “something I read on Facebook” https://t.co/24sgcaxSRk

— Nick Robinson (@bbcnickrobinson) August 25, 2020

Unironic use of the term "fake news" is one of my biggest idiot flags nowadays

Oh great, this guy will fix everything

Conservative snowflakes and their bloody cancel culture. pic.twitter.com/W12PwATT0J

— Tiernan Douieb (@TiernanDouieb) August 31, 2020

Dying to know what the worst offending shows are

I mean, it's The Mash Report I guess. Maybe they think HIGNFY is left wing for some reason. They have already scrubbed any trace of Toksvig / Hardy / Steel from The News Quiz and have a revolving door of Times columnists and LM network cunts on there instead.

Gonna have Lee Hurst on every show going shortly

Maybe they should cancel all comedy just to be on the safe side

It is the dawning of the age of Geoff Norcott.

And Andrew Lawrence, god help us all.

no, hold on, he's already alienated anyone who might ever give him a job.

there is absolutely going to be a high profile Titania McGrath tv show though.

Maybe they think HIGNFY is left wing for some reason

been a while since a senior Tory MP guest presented it I guess

The framing is ludicrous but i can see why HIGNFY, Mock The Week, Jonathan Pie and The Mash Report represent a reputational risk to the BBC. The cadence of British political satire, at least since the mid Blair years, has been unfunny snark about how stupid the government is, balanced by unfunny snark about how stupid and useless the opposition is. The more polarised British politics gets, the harder it is to separate sneering at politicians with sneering at the viewers. Three jokes about how Brexit is stupid balanced by one calling Labour Holocaust-deniers isn't sustainable.

What we'll probably end up with is two jokes about how Brexit is stupid, balanced by two calling Labour Holocaust-deniers, or explicitly right-wing Titiania McGrath-style dreck, though.

Isn't Toksvig a Lib Dem? or maybe Women's Equality Party?

Leftist extremists like this must go.

yes, not saying she is a standard bearer of the left by any means - however the News Quiz under her tenure was the only real anti-Tory satire I've heard / seen on the BBC

since the 90s anyway

I am not going to mention The Now Show except to say fucking hell, let's not talk about that.

Whether or not it's left wing is a distraction, it's about being too critical of the Conservative Party at a point where they are going to be offering a very large number of reasons to do so, most of which the public might agree with.

Tim Davie is the first Director General I can remember to have held public office as a card carrying member of the Conservative Party, which might explain why the Telegraph is so sympathetic to his goals.

when you turn to page 3 of the telegraph story to complete the sentence there's just one huge word taking up the whole spread: "RACIST!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡"

non-negligeable upside here: cancellation of HIGNFY

that would be ironic, considering.

if they are going to make the comedy less left wing then for balance i think they should make daytime programming less right wing - proceed Homes Under The Hammer with a statement saying that all property is theft, say

xp yes, that should've been put to bed a quarter of a century ago, imagine if The Frost Report had limped on with the same cast into the 90s.

Interesting:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/06/bbc-broadcasters-furious-over-new-rules-restricting-partisan-use-of-twitter

I do reckon there needs to be a bit of training on the use of social media across the old media. Enforcing conduct across it is surely a good thing? For the BBC to do this is a start.

Absolutely.

I'm doubtful that any BBC broadcaster should be allowed to publish any contentious opinion.

What if you’re a camera operator and you’re campaigning for Black Lives Matter on Facebook? Or a research assistant and you’re campaigning for a second Scottish independence referendum? Do you have to quit your job?

I don't know (about the new rules or what should be the rules), but FWIW my own point was re broadcasters, people actually talking to the audience.

I'd tend to think that rules should be much more liberal re: other staff.

Gary Lineker talks to loads of football fans, and also makes himself known for his political views. I think that's somewhat problematic - even if sometimes I might agree with his views.

But if someone who's filming Lineker, Murphy and Shearer in the studio happens to be against Brexit and says so on Facebook, I don't see that that's problematic.

I think I roughly agree with that. But you can see how it can get tricky. Producers, for instance, have a lot of editorial power. They’re not in front of the camera, or the microphone, but they’re instrumental to the substance of a programme.

What counts as ‘partisan’ and ‘opinionated’ is going to be interesting. Is Andrew Neil organising a right-wing boycott of the Co-Op because they apologised to a trans woman for advertising in The Spectator covered? Is the editor of Newsnight retweeting the presenter of Newsnight writing in the Murdoch press about ‘cancel culture’?

It’s hard to see how anyone other than Adrián Chiles is going to maintain a newspaper column.

i feel like maybe there's a difference between BBC employees pointing out their experiences of racism or misogyny and sharing unchecked rumours straight from CCHQ on a BBC Twitter account but i'm sure the new DG will be able to protect the factual accuracy of news output without drawing an equivalence between those two things

It doesn’t need to be massively hard - social media output from relevant staff should be treated like any other output and subject to similar editorial processes. So LK should be getting second sources for stuff she tweets just like stuff she reports on air, and analysis is OK and opinion isn’t.

Not that this is what they’ll implement obv

Coincidence that the head of Editorial Policy stepped down effective last week? (Probably, tbf)

it seems pretty much par for the course that someone from a sex trafficking clan is taking over as the new Woman's Hour presenter.

Oh no. Just seen. Awful person.

the day before election '19 she told a caller on her 5live show that even if Corbyn as PM would materially improve their life, it would be a selfish and evil act voting for him because he is an antisemitic danger in her not very humble opinion.

I don't know her. But she's from The Telegraph? :(

it does feel like it's all change at the bbc at the mo

right-wingers getting plum r4 gigs not that much of a change tbh

Lol otm

She also stole her dreadful coral lipstick from a dying bingo lady.

BBC Scotland stopping daily live coverage of Nicola Sturgeon's coronavirus briefings https://t.co/TQ2te4IlM5
Good to see @BBCScotland have taken account of representations from @jackiebmsp and me!

— George Foulkes (@GeorgeFoulkes) September 10, 2020

Fuck the BBC, and Labour.

Or, Scottish Labour.

both Labour and the BBC are rotten to the core and no use to anybody apart from the establishment they serve, they both need liquidating.

still got mad love for R3 tho!