Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

I've never seen him called a terrible parent before this thread.

(His connections have done pretty well for Hunter, wish my dad had been such a bad parent!)

Probably someone has said shit about him because of hunter's drug use? Seems a stretch

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

i'm tired of everything. tired and sad and just don't care. joe biden causes cancer, you know, for all i care, joe biden causes fucking cancer.

I didn't like Biden before, but that New Yorker article sealed the deal for me. Racist? Toucher? Relies on personal family tragedy to increase fortunes of professional political career? Uses political connections to aid and abet son's drug problems until they cause problems for political career?

If the guy is a good guy, I really do wonder who some of you consider a bad guy. It's like if the person isn't Hitler you'd have 'em over for a beer.

I really don’t care about any of his personal flaws. He sucks for his what he believes in and for his priorities.

I’ve had so many unhitlers over for beers, oh my god what a terrible person I am

Gotta network in case a job opens up with a Latin American coup planning office.

"Racist? Toucher? Relies on personal family tragedy to increase fortunes of professional political career? Uses political connections to aid and abet son's drug problems until they cause problems for political career?"

come on

This entire thread since 2018 or so is pretty easily reduced to two arguments which wouldn’t have much to do with each other in a slightly better timeline:

1. Joe Biden is an acceptable alternative to Trump, let’s get this done so we can make sure RBG isn’t replaced by someone else off the federalist society’s a-list

2. Joe Biden is a horrible human being arrgh omg america deserves this shit fuck everything arrgh we’re doomed

2 is more exciting hence the overwhelming majority of posts devoted to it, despite the mind-numbing repetition

please enjoy your bowl full of blood, hair, and shit, milo

Joe Biden is a horrible human being arrgh omg america deserves this shit fuck everything arrgh we’re doomed

^^Best Lina Wertmüller joint.

or Don 'n' Glenn sex party in Laurel Canyon

2 is more exciting hence the overwhelming majority of posts devoted to it, despite the mind-numbing repetition

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto)

yes i'm "excited".

this is exactly what is going on, i am very very "excited"

1 and 2 are not mutually exclusive.

please enjoy your bowl full of blood, hair, and shit, milo

Didn't Morbs already use this one on you?

In this moment, having no alternative, the racist toucher is an acceptable alternative to Trump. He is also not fit for the task at hand if you care at all about the health and dignity of anyone making less than $50k a year.

God, you people are tiresome.

― jaymc, Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:31 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago)

^^ truer every hour

"let’s get this done so we can make sure RBG isn’t replaced by someone else off the federalist society’s a-list". that seems important to me

Sometimes I remember this thread title and get confused about why “repeated” criticism of Joe Biden, Senator From Citibank, is so objectionable.

There were several variations of a blase statement from the primary threads from people that they'll be fine if Biden is President even though he wasn't their first choice.

It's probably unpleasant to be reminded that many people won't be fine.

Chidin' with biden

xpost: that would be the case no matter who the democratic candidate was

More people would be fine with pretty much any of them who weren't Biden - Buttigieg is a weasel but all his synapses are firing at full capacity.

Eh, all but one or two of them sucked.

Anyway agreed that this all v tiresome but maybe less so if the see-no-evils kept to the general politics thread?

Like...we’re talking about things that this guy Joe Biden says and does, in a thread about Joe Biden, with his name at the top.

It's probably unpleasant to be reminded that many people won't be fine.

Nah man, as a person with a pre-existing condition that requires exorbitantly expensive medication to treat, I'm actually apparently "excited" for the potential election and subsequent fallout from the "progressive" candidate who doesn't even have the decency to lie about supporting, let alone legitimately campaigning for and making efforts to pass, a hypothetical M4A bill that he adamantly states isn't ever going to come into his consideration in the first place. My criticisms of those kinds of positions from him are just a "tiresome" game that I'm playing for kicks on a white rock critic message board, as opposed to voicing concern about things that actually is going to affect my livelihood in an explicit manner. Glad people on here enlightened me to that fact I never knew until now!

2. Joe Biden is a horrible human being arrgh omg america deserves this shit fuck everything arrgh we’re doomed

I don't think anyone's posting "america deserves this shit"? If they are, you could counter this by explaining that America is many people who have not been responsible for the decisions that led to this shit.

A few people very occasionally say "I fear that I am doomed," explaining why their personal circumstances inspire this fear in them. If you believe they have no reason to fear, you could explain to them individually why they are incorrect, mistaken, or catastrophising to have these fears, rather than simply shouting at them that they are annoying.


the mind-numbing repetition

It's not like anyone is actually repeating themselves, either - nobody's harping over and over on the same individual topics. Those of us who vent lightly about stupid things Biden does or shitty opinions that he has or profoundly alarming things that he says, are coming here occasionally to mention new things that he does or says or confirms that he thinks. Even the strong likelihood that he has committed sexual assault as a sitting politician is not being harped upon, or even mentioned in passing.

A number of people do keep saying the same thing over and over, though.

"new things that he does or says or confirms that he thinks"?

I don't think anyone's posting "america deserves this shit"? If they are, you could counter this by explaining that America is many people who have not been responsible for the decisions that led to this shit.

― Steppin' RZA (sic)

america is foundationally a white supremacist ethnostate. i am not america, and neither can you!

i'm not going to say that i fear that i am doomed but i am not in a good place right now. if that makes anybody posting to this thread uncomfortable, good.

Let's elect Biden and take it from there.

I don't understand how you can look at the history of the US and believe it can get much better than Joe Biden.

xp yes

confirms that he thinks

I thought of tidying this up when copying but didn't want to open myself up to a charge of of eastasiaing

Let's elect Biden and take it from there

If Biden / Harris are susceptible to activism, there's no advantage in waiting until February to express the will of the people beyond the ballot box. The Seattle police chief probably wouldn't have resigned yesterday if we hadn't kept saying that tear-gassing us was uncool for the last two months.

Biden might withdraw his call for me to be shot in the legs before election day!

I don't understand how you can look at the history of the US and believe it can get much better than Joe Biden.

― Van Horn Street

if i let my actions be determined by the history of the united states i'd be dead right now

It’s important to wait for the one term President to be elected before exerting pressure.

i'm not sure just saying biden sucks over and over again counts as "exerting pressure"

Nor does complaining about "saying Biden sucks over and over again" have anything to do with "let's elect Biden."

(Nor anything involving ILX for that matter.)

just saying biden sucks over and over again

It's not like anyone (accused of this) is actually repeating themselves, either - nobody's harping over and over on the same individual topics. Those of us who vent lightly about stupid things Biden does or shitty opinions that he has or profoundly alarming things that he says, are coming here occasionally to mention new things that he does or says or (engage in discussion about his actions or statements). Even the strong likelihood that he has committed sexual assault as a sitting politician is not being harped upon, or even (repeated) in passing.

A number of people do keep saying the same thing over and over, though.

A number of people do keep saying the same thing over and over, though.

this is certainly a clever thing to post to a thread three times

I really don’t care about any of his personal flaws. He sucks for his what he believes in and for his priorities.

absolutely. I throw in the lazy ad hominems about how he sucks as a person purely to amuse myself!

Impossible to imagine anyone with Joe's career not being a terrible person tbh. Everyone who voted to invade Iraq will be roasting with Herman Cain IMO.

His belief that he should be able to put his hands and face on any woman, as a priority that affects public appearances, is a personal flaw imo

He's evolved, or so I've heard.

A Guardian commentator states:

on an ideological scale, Harris ranks as the second-most progressive senator, behind Warren but ahead of Sanders.

He cites this chart:
https://voteview.com/congress/senate

However, I find his claim hard to believe.

Assigning votes cast across 13 years (for Sanders, three years for Harris) to a single grid point each on a four-axis scale, with no explanation provided of the context of or riders attached to each bill, seems a very poor method of evaluating the ideology of the voter.

Analysing the bills initiated, drafted and promoted by each would be a better marker, and assessing Harris' ideological record as a prosecutor and AG against Sanders' ideological record as a congressman would provide a deeper understanding than only examining Harris' public actions during the three years she has been marketing herself for VP/POTUS.

don't you people sleep?!