Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

sorry if this was the wrong thread to bump. i know there has been an extended discussion on the purpose of this thread, and where to put the general election stuff. i don't know who won

A Pew Research Center poll asked voters to describe in their own words why they were backing or leaning toward Biden or Trump.

i think that if Pew asked me this, in the heat of the moment i would also say something like "to be honest, i will vote for absolutely any alternative to trump because trump is a white supremacist who is also the dumbest man in the northern hemisphere", which they would probably write down as "not trump"

sanders would likely have had a plurality if voters claiming “he’s not trump” as their main reason for support too. people fucking hate trump.

*of not if

but popular protest stands a chance of filling this empty vessel with a sense of purpose. maybe the way popular protest steered lbj towards policies he didn't campaign on

the sense I got about LBJ from the Doris K-G biography is that he wanted to win and he wanted to be liked, and a lot of it for him was about "playing the game well" -- so I got the sense that because the protest was popular, he supported it and advocated those policies. If he hadn't been the recipient of pressure from activists and other progressive politicians, he would have adhered more to the traditional Southern wing of the party. He was basically "whip" for quite a while, wasn't he? His job was to maintain Democratic Party solidarity and to beat the Republicans -- not jumping on that bandwagon seemed like it would work in the Republicans favor, idk, some of y'all know more about this than me, but it makes sense in terms of the contradictions in his policies (esp re Vietnam) and also the delays in implementation he granted southern states for integration. (Pretty sure this started with LBJ and not Nixon)

Idk how this reflects on Biden ... I recently (latepass I know) watched the docudrama about Anita Hill and whoa does Biden look bad in that.

yassss kween

^ drive-by dreadsnark at old video, ignore accordingly

this excerpt is worse, really

Kamala Harris continued on to describe how she'd brought charges against a single homeless mother of 3 who was working 2 jobs because her children were truant...and this was a success story. pic.twitter.com/FT5uJmI6x9

— Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) January 28, 2019

Like, you could tell that story as one of the tragedy of our broken society but it's just a punchline about how using homicide prosecutors (notoriously wonderful, upright people who are definitely not the villain of half of the true crime documentaries people eat up) and the threat of incarceration was cool.

I still can't believe the headline here - a UK columnist presenting as unexpected insight what is apparently just fact.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/12/president-kamala-harris-in-2024-this-might-be-joe-bidens-thinking

Even on day one, the choice reminds us that Biden is very serious about winning the election.

"Even on day one, the choice reminds us that Biden is very serious about winning the election."

omg, that is the best encapsulation of liberal dialectics ever. it's two and a half months before the election and the best case anybody is making for joe biden is to say "no really he really _does_ want to win election as president of the united states of america. yes, admittedly, he's doing such a fucking awful, sub-fred-thompson job of it that an increasing numbers of people are openly accusing him of trying to lose on purpose, and we would like to address these rumors head on: they're not true. joe biden wants to be the next president of the united states of america."

(raised hand) "Hi, I'm a Democratic Socialist, would Joe Biden like me to vote for him? If so, why?"

"Thank you for asking that question, it's a very good one. I want to confirm that YES, Joe Biden would like you to vote for him, because democratic socialism is bad and wrong and he is not."

neither of these guys has a good case to be made president! i think that's very clear! even how they got into this position is very clear! it's a bad time.

oh for the record that was rhetorical i am _not_ personally a democratic socialist, i'm an intersectional socialist

i'm a satanist socialist

neutral good, taurus

i'm a broken socialist

I want money and I don't care where it comes from. Government handouts, beneficient corporations, Satan, wherever.

i'm a satanist socialist

― popeye's arse (Neanderthal)

LaVeyan?

lol I'm not really, though the socialist part is true. I just wanted an additional modifier as I felt left out

i'm a broken socialist

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius)

everything and everyone is broken, you can just call yourself a "socialist"

intersectional has specific meaning to me but it gets super into the weeds and i'm certainly not going to get into it on this thread

ecumenical socialism

morbs was probably making a joke about the band

Swolecialism, everyone works out hard at a cooperatively-owned gym in order to have the physical fitness to fight through the post-apocalyptic wasteland

I like it

morbs was probably making a joke about the band

― beaky joshing shamanic part-angster (sic)

you know i had completely forgotten that band existed

just when i thought my day couldn't get worse

Swolecialism, everyone works out hard at a cooperatively-owned gym in order to have the physical fitness to fight through the post-apocalyptic wasteland

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, August 15, 2020 3:08 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I like it

― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.)

wear a mask imo

i'm going to begin my film script where rushomancy and i go on a road trip, then i'll be a broken socialist scenarist

^ good one

i'm going to begin my film script where rushomancy and i go on a road trip, then i'll be a broken socialist scenarist

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius)

just when i thought my day couldn't get worse

Swolecialism, everyone works out hard at a cooperatively-owned gym in order to have the physical fitness to fight through the post-apocalyptic wasteland

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:08 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago)

uh, that's called "preparing for Burning Man"

Condoms and drugs will also be collectively owned.

by your mom

quality Biden content! thanks y'all!

well what a concept THAT is

Who's Ridin' Biden?

your mom?

wtf I love this thread now

If we can keep dropping yo momma jokes till November it may yet make up for everything that preceded itt.

dropped yo momma years ago tbh

Don't want to give yourself a hernia.

do not fatshame my mom, doucheface!

she may be obese but her blood pressure and cholesterol are exceptionally healthy for a woman of her age and size

Yo momma is like Joe Biden
Never in the hole

Your mom is like Citibank, everybody lining up for her on payday!

Your mother is so indebted to the fracking industry she gives *them* gas

I don’t know what that means

^one for the Biden sticker

i think it has to do with farting

you say that about everything though

no, forks, only your mom