Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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speaking of horribly formed ...

sarahell, Sunday, 16 August 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

okay, i'm screenshotting this and passing it along; i think you can forget about that cobbler you asked for.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 16 August 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

speaking of cobblers

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 August 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

what a horribly formed "corn" said the podiatrist.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:49 AM (ten years ago)

sarahell, Sunday, 16 August 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a33549416/cardi-b-joe-biden-interview/

*ctrl + f 'wap' = not found*

Not reading this.

pomenitul, Monday, 17 August 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

I thought Cardi was a friend of the working class not a neoliberal shill. Sad!

treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

cardi for president

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 17 August 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

Cardi 2020: A _________ in every _________.

Macaroni in every pot

jmm, Monday, 17 August 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

goop in every grinch

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 17 August 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

read that as "a grope"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 August 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

an okurrr in every pot

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 August 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

he did say "Most cops are good" tonight, missing the point for the 9000th time.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link

it takes 8999 bad apples to spoil a barrel, iirc

healthy butts on perfect cocaine (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

Cardi B interviews Joe Biden for Elle.

JB: You know the nickname (his daughter) gave me when she was growing up? She called me Joey B. So we may be related.

CB: And also what I want is free Medicare. It’s important to have free because look what is happening right now. [...] And I want Black people to stop getting killed and no justice for it. I’m tired of it. I’m sick of it. I just want laws that are fair to Black citizens and that are fair for cops, too. If you kill somebody who doesn’t have a weapon on them, you go to jail. You know what? If I kill somebody, I’ve got to go to jail. You gotta go to jail, too. That’s what I want.

JB: Presidents have to take responsibility. I understand one of your favorite presidents is Franklin Roosevelt. Roosevelt said the American people can take anything if you tell them the truth. Sometimes the truth is hard. But right now, we’re in a position where we have an opportunity to make so much progress. The American public has had the blinders taken off.

CB: It’s so sad that a pandemic had to happen so people could open their eyes and see what type of person they are dealing with. [...] One day he’s telling them this is nothing, that people need to stop getting tested. Next thing you know, a mask [on his] face. Really playing games. And it’s crazy that all of this had to happen so they could open their eyes to the past four years.

JB: Well, it doesn’t have to happen. In 2016, if 18- to 24-year-olds had voted in the same percentage as the rest of the population, there would have been 5.2 million more votes. We wouldn’t have him; we would have had Hillary Clinton.

CB: A lot of fans are concerned about free college and Medicare, especially now that people are getting sick left and right. Sometimes people have problems in their community. For example, a lot of after-school programs that I [had] growing up, [are] no more in my hood. Why is that?

JB: I’m the guy that put in those after-school programs. I was able to get $20 billion more boys and girls clubs. But what happened? Everything was getting better — this was when crime was going down — so, “We don’t have to pay for this anymore.” Because people didn’t want to pay the taxes for it. And that’s why this “government is bad” has been such a downer for things that really matter to you and me.

As a single dad when my wife and daughter got killed—I had two boys who survived the accident—I couldn’t afford child care. I didn’t have the money for someone to take care of my kids. Thank God, I had my sister and my brother and my mother, who helped me.

CB: I feel like this country is so hurt, to the point that this year, a lot of people couldn’t even celebrate July 4th, because not everybody feels like an American. A lot of people feel like [they’re] not even part of America.

JB: Look, I’m a lot older than you, to state the obvious. When I was in high school, the civil rights movement was just being started, and along came Bull Connor and his dogs. He thought he was going to drive a wooden stake into the heart of the civil rights movement. But when all those folks saw what was happening in the South, they saw Bull Connor with dogs, elderly Black women going to church and kids being knocked down with fire hoses — all of a sudden, as Dr. King said, we had the second emancipation. We had the Voting Rights Act and we had the Civil Rights Act. It changed things because people said, “Oh my God, that’s happening.” The cell phone has changed America. Because we’re at a point where some brave kid can stand there for a total of 8 minutes and 46 seconds and take a [video] of a Black man brutally murdered. And people around the world were saying, “My God. This really happens?” And now they’re demanding change.

CB: And you know, I feel like Black people, we’re not asking for sympathy, we’re not asking for charity — we are just asking for equality. We are asking for fairness, and we are asking for justice. That is all. I feel like everything people are asking for is getting interpreted in a very different way. No, it’s simple: We just want justice. We want to feel like Americans.

JB: Well, I’ll tell you what. I have a friend in Mississippi, Bennie Thompson, a very well-known congressman, an African American. He called me two weeks ago. He said, “Joe, I just came from a protest. There were as many white kids marching as Black kids. This is Mississippi, Joe. Things are changing.” The reason I’m so optimistic is because of your generation. You’re the smartest, the best educated, the least prejudiced, and the most engaged generation in history. And you’re going to change things. I really mean it! I’m not trying to be nice. And by the way, the rest of the world has always looked to us. Why? Not because we’re so powerful. But the power of our example. Look what they’re seeing now with this president. He’s promoting hatred, prejudice, racism. Talking about protecting the Confederate flag when Mississippi takes it off their flag. This is all about the game of making people hate each other. Because that’s how he wins, by dividing us. Your generation is changing it.

CB: I know [Cardi's generation] are so eager to make money, to look a certain way, to have style, celebrity gossip. And it’s like, why don’t we make a change for real and vote?

JB: In the primaries, they kept saying, “Well, you know, there aren’t that many people voting, Biden’s not going to excite anybody.” We had the largest turnout in the primaries ever. Seventy percent more people voted in Virginia, 40 percent more people in Mississippi, 30 percent more in South Carolina. People are ready. And let me tell you something: The American people have never, ever, ever let their country down.

CB: Because let me tell you about my college experience. I’m from New York, and when you’re in high school or middle school, they give you a free MetroCard for you to be able to get to your school, and they gave me free lunch. When I was in college, I didn’t get any more transportation. So I had to get a job, because I needed $5 every single day to be able to go from Washington Heights to Chambers Street. And I had to feed myself. Sometimes I had to wait from 1 p.m. all the way to 9 p.m. to get home to eat. Because I couldn’t afford McDonald’s or any restaurants on my break. I was starving, and I felt so discouraged. So I just feel like that is so important, to finance students while they’re in college.

But what a lot of people are concerned about is, if the government gives us [these things], are they going to raise our taxes? Because clearly nobody wants to pay so much in taxes. Sometimes, when my taxes come in, I’m like, “Oh my gosh, I’m depressed, oh Lord, let me see my Birkin collection.” That is a little joke. [But] when you see the taxes coming off your check, you don’t understand, because you feel like you’re putting in so many hours. People want to know, can you provide college education, this [health care] plan, without a big chunk of taxes coming out of our checks?

JB: Yes, we can. And the way we can pay for all of this is doing practical things, like making sure that everybody has to pay their fair share. [For example] no corporation should pay less than 15 percent tax.

healthy butts on perfect cocaine (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 08:02 (three years ago) link

Pre-recorded answers that don't say anything to honest questions? Yes?

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

He's committing to free community college, I guess that's something.

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

Her generation are the ones who are enacting change like never before, just as the original civil rights fighters did, and the young people are voting in bigger numbers than ever, and the American people have never ever ever let America down, but the young people gave us President Trump because not enough of them voted.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

The lack of media literacy programs in American schools also contributed to a lack of needed voter turnout

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

time for McDonald's to whip out their "Toxic Chicken McNugget" program

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Many levels of deja vu.

At a speech at the Democratic National Convention on Thursday, Biden’s final address included the lines, “For love is more powerful than hate. Hope is more powerful than fear. And light is more powerful than dark.”

Social media was quick to point out that the words were eerily similar to ones found in a letter Layton wrote before he died in 2011.

“My friends, love is better than anger,” said Layton in his letter. “Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.”

...However, the sentiments Layton made also channel lines from a speech former prime minister Wilfrid Laurier gave in 1916.

“Let me tell you that for the solution of these problems you have a safe guide, an unfailing light if you remember that faith is better than doubt and love is better than hate,” said Laurier.

Won't be much of a story, but still.

http://nationalpost.com/news/joe-biden-accused-of-plagiarizing-from-jack-laytons-final-letter-in-nomination-speech

clemenza, Saturday, 22 August 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me. It’s just vacuous pol-speak with unsubtle Christian undertones.

pomenitul, Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJsYKhEV6o0
biden plagiarizing house atreides again

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

are you supposed to call a boy "honey"

Thicc Nhat Wanh (rip van wanko), Saturday, 22 August 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

apparently Biden's dad called him that.

akm, Saturday, 22 August 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

and my wife says that to our son so yes, some people do, though I'm sure this will become a prime qanon talking point

akm, Saturday, 22 August 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

“For love is more powerful than hate. Hope is more powerful than fear. And light is more powerful than dark.”

Jack Layton certainly didn't originate these bland ideas in 2011 and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't claim to have, but he's dead, so he can't repudiate this idiocy. Many hundreds of thousands of people have expressed similar sentiments in similar words. These are trite remarks, generally accepted as truisms. Plagiarism is impossible here, because plagiarism requires the theft of original thoughts or expressions.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 22 August 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

also, Layton had the decency to croak directly afterwards

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

whatever, people can make references. it sounded more like Marianne Williamson than anyone else.

akm, Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Just to be clear, I don't think it's a big deal at all, or even a small deal. But because it's Biden, it's awkward--they'll probably be a little less eager to call out whatever Melania Trump plagiarizes at the RNC.

clemenza, Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

Nothing awkward about it beyond the formulation itself, which is as banal as it gets. You can’t steal from the collective unconscious, it belongs to all.

pomenitul, Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

This is where you lose me, someone who doesn't hate Biden and wants him to win.

clemenza, Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

- yoda

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

- yoda Bob Marley

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

Could’ve sworn it was Mahatma Obama.

pomenitul, Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

The correct answer is "All of the above."

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

"There are whores in this house."

-Abraham Lincoln

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

I've scanned the major newspapers and it's gotten no traction.

A worse story is a NYT front pager about the similarities b/w Biden's lead and Dukakis' coming after the '88 election....except in classic NYT fashion after six paragraphs or whatever of ominous rumblings it pivots to "BUT Biden's lead has been durable and none of Trump's tactics have worked."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

wait, I'm wrong, it wasn't Lincoln

https://i.ibb.co/NCGZLzF/4ccr52.jpg

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

no musical for you JQA

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 August 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

jesus

https://i.imgur.com/vQPAr19.jpg

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

c'mon, man, help a brother out!

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

His social media voice should be less "your depressed grandfather who knows he's going to die soon"

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

that just looks like any other fundraising email to me

akm, Sunday, 23 August 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link

My only question is why they're still talking about their July numbers at the end of August. Especially since as far as I know the Harris selection brought in a tidal wave of money.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 23 August 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

What a shameful scam of an electoral system

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 23 August 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

what a sad and sorry and sickening sight

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:54 (three years ago) link

idgi

jaymc, Sunday, 23 August 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link

Conventional wisdom says shake down your supporters while they are still sentimental about the convention speeches. This is SOP. Why jump at trifles like startled fleas?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 23 August 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link

At some point, you're going to figure out "this is the way it's always done" doesn't make it better or less sad for many of us.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 23 August 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link


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