yeah that's kinda 2 birds with 1 stone
― frogbs, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
ummm, let's maybe avoid jokes about involuntary sterilization by the authorities being a good thing. at least in the US this has actual eugenic/white supremacist precedents.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
talking about my self btw
― frogbs, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
a lot of people will change their minds when they discover they can't go on even a short-haul foreign holiday
A hundred million Americans: Huh? Why would I want to go to a DIFFERENT country when I'm already in the best one?
― all we are is durst in the wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
Dr C otm
ultimately I found a great way to deal with friends who have swallowed brain wormsmaking them "not friends"
tired of banging my head on moving goalposts
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
why would i go to a different country when the beaches in the florida panhandle are perfect already?
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
thought it was posting about your arguments with them on ilx
― k3vin k., Monday, 17 August 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
I'm a Tar Heel bornI'm a Tar Heel bredAnd when I die I'll be a Tar Heel dead
The Daily Tar Heel isnโt holding back this morning. pic.twitter.com/BZmuhAvMQD— Susan Worley (@TarheelSoup) August 17, 2020
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 August 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
Just made a quick jaunt back to the mid-2010s in the ol' time machine to see if folks from our very recent past could make heads or tails of this headline:
Trump 'enthusiastic' over unproven coronavirus therapeutic, MyPillow creator says
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
The Daily Tar Heel isnโt holding back this morning. pic.twitter.com/BZmuhAvMQDโ Susan Worley (@TarheelSoup) August 17, 2020โ mookieproof, Monday, August 17, 2020 2:06 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
just announced: shutting down all in-person classes
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 17 August 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02400-7
This, on the immune response and what it means for the possibility of a vaccine, is reassuring.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link
Scotty has said the vaccine will be mandatory in Australia.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link
Scotty doesn't know
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link
Vaccine maker says scotty doesn't have a contract for any vaccine.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link
Following on from Matt's link.
A first case of #COVID19 reinfection from HKU, with distinct virus genome sequences in 1st and 2nd infection (142 days apart). Kudos to the scientists for this study.This is no cause for alarm - this is a textbook example of how immunity should work. (1/n) https://t.co/oekESn0Uhq— Prof. Akiko Iwasaki (@VirusesImmunity) August 24, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 August 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
Can anyone speak to the validity of the tweet that xyz just posted? Sounds right and is reassuring but i dunno the Prof in question.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 August 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
She's quoted here too: https://time.com/5882907/covid-19-reinfection/
The NYT, on the other hand, is reporting this as if it's crushing news
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
Why would it be crushing news, the ENTIRE GOAL is to arrive with minimal death and long-term illness toll at the point where the virus is endemic instead of pandemic and everybody's walking around with partial immunity bolstered every year by vaccination but people still get mild cases every year. There's no other endpoint! We are not going to make the virus extinct! The Spanish flu is still around, you've probably gotten it!
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
Cos it's the NYT
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
This shit is maddening. The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine isn't some Trump-created snake oil!
― DJI, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
They've been saying this whole time that they were hoping to start distributing vaccines in September/October, if everything went well.
― DJI, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
just made a dental appointment for NYC; i suppose i gotta do this shit sooner or later and waiting until there's a tested vaccine means i will have no molars.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
xp
nope. they are *still recruiting* for phase III trials *in the UK* (and brazil iirc) until september.
and the US generally requires phase III trials to take place *in the US* to approve drugs for use in the US.
that vaccine is not snake oil, but "They've been saying this whole time that they were hoping to start distributing vaccines in September/October" is not true.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
(unless "they" is literally donald trump)
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
Whoops - you're right. They were targeting the end of the year.
― DJI, Monday, 24 August 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
I wonder if theyโd even accept the fast-tracking? The risk seems pretty high to get a two month jump.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Right. The US is very litigious! I wouldnโt want preapproval from a corrupt administration that will hopefully be gone in January. And itโs not like theyโll have spare doses gathering dust.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
the emergency use authorization for convalescent plasma yesterday was alarming in this regard -- it won't be much of a hassle for us as it's a therapy given in the hospital setting where demands for unproven treatments generally are fewer and easier to deal with -- but if they use the same logic to expedite marketing of a vaccine it could be a huge deal
― k3vin k., Monday, 24 August 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
Just got my first injection as part of the Phase 3 Moderna vaccine trial. Obv i will never know if it's placebo or real thing but glad to be taking part.
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
i guess the nightmare scenario is another one of these https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/05/01/vaccine-swine-flu-coronavirus/. if that happened again in a world with Qanon, populism, misinformation, etc. it would do far more harm to public trust in the idea of vaccination than it did back in 1976. the "sporadic deaths" bit seems unlikely if they're basing expedited approval on approval in the UK after successful completion of UK trials. but the "total chaos" part seems very likely.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
Xpost the negative: ive been here 6 fuckin' hours. I was quoted 2! Welp...work is lost for today
Positive: $150 for today
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
if you want to see some insane (and interesting) face masks then this newsletter is fun https://rodolfor.substack.com/
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
The reported second-positive case referenced above, can that asymptomatic patient still infect others, despite being apparently immune from the effects of the illness himself?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/24/astrazeneca-denies-white-house-is-fast-tracking-its-covid-19-vaccine-400963
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
A friend wrote this piece exploring the history of plague and its effects on language. He's a poet and writer, but also has a law degree as well as a degree in Ancient Languages...Commercials Correspondent for the Believer, etc. etc. He's kind of one of the weirdest and most brilliant people I know! And this is no different, interesting reading.
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/ascend-secrets-speaking-pandemic/
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link
wow, that's fantastic!
― avellano medio inglรฉs (f. hazel), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link
thx table, smashing that "print" button.
has anyone read "on immunity" by eula bliss? i'm about to get to the front of the hold queue at the library for it.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link
Religious anti science wankers with the title of Archbishop are starting to complain to the Australian government are complaining that the oxford vaccine (and the long used vaccine for rubella) use cell lines derived from aborted foetuses.
Of course they are just โasking questionsโ and saying of course they would get the vaccine โif it were the only optionโ whilst sewing the seeds of doubt amongst the credulous.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 24 August 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
I presume the aborted foetuses that these mitred pricks are talking about are embryonic stem cells.
Fuck these clowns and their stupid fucking hats.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 24 August 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
The whole stem cell argument is so obviously bonkers and about controlling women's bodies. It infuriates me.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 24 August 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
meanwhile, in "too late, dollar short"...
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/08/24/judge-rules-for-florida-teachers-against-school-reopening-order
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
that LARB essay is amazing
― Brad C., Monday, 24 August 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
cosign
― sleeve, Monday, 24 August 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
so i don't think i understand why or how COVID plateaus in a big city so continually and precisely? like NYC - according to the gothamist daily, which i take as gospel - has had a constant of between 300 and 200 new cases and 15 to 5 deaths more or less every day for what feels like a month. How does that trickle continue and what are the projections for it to stop? Feels like there were 100 models for how this was going to play out in the US this summer but i'm seeing none for the fall.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link
I mean thereโs just a lot of people
― k3vin k., Monday, 24 August 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link
too much too much too many people
― mookieproof, Monday, 24 August 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
Feels like there were 100 models for how this was going to play out in the US this summer but i'm seeing none for the fall.โ Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, August 24, 2020 4:06 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago)
โ Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, August 24, 2020 4:06 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago)
This has consistently been the most accurate model:https://covid19-projections.com/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
Glad y'all dug that essay. Watch that name, he truly is a genius.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
โ ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, August 24, 2020 1:49 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah! i remember it being very good
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link
I read it earlier this year & found it really thoughtful on what drives โourโ attitudes to public health, and it solidified some things I had been thinking about science communication and trust in experts (Michael Gove and Laurie Anderson otm basically). Plus I learned some cool facts (see unpopular TIL thread I started because I didnโt think there was anything shocking about my being 35 when I learned the origin of the term conscientious objector)
― agent brodie canks (wins), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link