Is the work of Steven Soderbergh the most overrated thing ever?

steven soderbergh is ok but the fanfic writers are a little ott

Especially the mpreg stories.

i really wish ppl would EXPLAIN why things "suck so hard"

i foolishly GISed mpreg before checking wikipedia x-post

it's a remake of my favorite tarkovsky movie and one of my favorite movies of all time with george clooney in it, who drives me crazy, so admittedly i'm a little biased. i saw it years ago and i've forgotten specifics but i just remember feeling like it was the most pretentious and vacuous movie i'd ever seen.

Solaris is the Kid A of films. make of that what you will.
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:54 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark

a movie about baseball, really

what a tragedy for movies about baseball

I cannot join the contrarians in praising The Informant!, which strains to be a satire of something or other (the corporate culture of theft, I wish). Matt Damon's bipolar voiceover wore me out before his Bruce McCullochization. I don't particularly understand all the bashing of the Marvin Hamlisch score, it just underlines the already smug vibe.

It was obnoxious. Scott Bakula and his hair were the only saving graces.

I did get The Girlfriend Experience today.

*instant rimsh...wait that sounds wrong.

I liked Bakula! Tom Smothers slipped by unnoticed; I did spot his brother.

So, is this the point where everyone comes to their senses and realises this man has never made a good film?

King of the Hill, Out of Sight, The Limey, Erin Brockovich, The Girlfriend Experience comprises an impressive achievement.

*comprise

watched "king of the hill" it was good i thought. also i correctly id'd a young katherine heigl! i never really knew she started so young

we all did

'out of sight' remains way more stylish and fun than i had assumed it wld - lol'd heartily throughout - everyone & everything in this is so charming that it sorta fucked me up that the end was so bloody & heartless

the cast in this is so stellar - head nods @ catherine keener and luis guzmán & the keaton cameo that nods to jackie brown - whole thing has a tremendous ease to it

If he'd made OOS now we'd all think he was in his Effortless Craftsman phase.

ru crazy, i still want my money back for ocean's 12

― A B C, Friday, June 8, 2007 11:55 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i walked out of it hating liberal hollyweird

― A B C, Friday, June 8, 2007 11:56 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

haha! ocean's 12 sucked but i did like the Kashmir scene

out of sight was the last time j-lo was really hot too... then she got a bunch of work done to make her look like a white girl

j-lo in out of sight is O_O esp when they put her in those little shorts and a dolphins jersey

i gotta watch oos again--my gf loves it but i never cared for it.

sex lies is still one of my faves and really the limey is too so i don't care what else this guy does.

Never loved sex lies like some ppl seemed to. Maybe I should watch it again. I do love Spader. OoS is really good.

It's true about Lopez, I think, in that film.

The Limey is super!

Love how well shot, written, and acted the scene in that lovely Detroit hotel bar is. You can taste the bourbon and smell J-Lo's perfume.

He is filming a "OH NOES FATAL VIRAL OUTBREAK IN METRO USA" film with O_o ensemble cast in SF right now called Contagion, looks to be v. similar to Outbreak (ensemble cast, shit film).

Didn't see this one coming, Steven Soderbergh to retire.

I posted a similar story on a diff thread last month

I mean, he's gotta be depressed that some people actually love the Ocean's movies

has he publicly downplayed them or admitted to being less proud of them than his other work?

NO, I COULD TELL BY WATCHING.

Clooney on Letterman a few years ago: "yep, we're doing Ocean's 12... (flashes grin) cuz Solaris bombed."

Not sure he'll actually follow through--Jay-Z retired, too, and so did Michael Jordan and Brett Favre, more than once. Neither am I really sure why he's unhappy. Of the four remaining films the article mentions, two are action/genre films, one's The Man from U.N.C.L.E., and the other's a biography of Liberace. The last could be interesting, the other three probably not. Is it that he wants to make stuff more like sex, lies & videotape and no one will let him? I thought he voluntarily veered into more commercially viable filmmaking with Out of Sight. I also thought he made enough money from that and the Ocean films that he can pretty much do what he wants anyway. Or is he just frustrated that no one goes to see his smaller films, like the quote above suggests? A whole lot of filmmakers better than him learned to live with that (don't get me wrong, I like some of his movies)...I find the story odd, but maybe I'm over-analyzing; maybe he's just tired.

I'd take the Oceans on either side of 12 over Inception anyday, as far as directors aiming for virtuoso editing.

He is apparently bored with the syntax of narrative filmmaking; Matt Damon quoted him saying something like "If I see one more over-the-shoulder shot I'll go crazy."

doesn't he have enough money to do whatever the hell he wants? he should go do that. whatever the hell it is he wants to do.

Soderbergh's one of the few guys who knows how to direct Conventional Hollywood Narrative, so he should stop overestimating his talents.

I mean, I wish more boilerplate as good as Erin Brockovich more often.

*wish he made

this is actually something i think you're right abt

yeah i always thought is best stuff was perfectly decent entertainment-making. he tries too hard with the arty thing. his arty stuff sweats too much.

Neither am I really sure why he's unhappy.

He's spoken about his frustration with 'the tyranny of narrative' before - I suspect that traditional storytelling based filmmaking just increasingly bores him.

nevermind, morbs already said that

he should try abstract noodle art.

this is actually something i think you're right abt

ha "actually"!

this is way better than Traffic, by the way:

http://img.designswan.com/2009/Art/noodleArt/2.jpg

oops

The Girlfriend Experience was his best 'experimental' film and fortunately it was less than 80 minutes long.

this is way better than Traffic, by the way:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WdZilHfMq6U/TRj2EK6IaPI/AAAAAAAAAyY/rm0JEFBDJJo/s1600/noodle+art+2+tutorial.jpg

he should try abstract noodle art.

He says he's going to be painting and doing photography so it may still happen.