Better Call Saul

I get all that. I just feel like I missed whatever it is that made her so disillusioned and set her on that path. Aside from the panda.

the very little we know of her childhood suggests that maybe she just finds the unpredictable/instability more familiar somehow

she maybe isnt afraid of losing everything the way someone from a more stable upbringing is

I get that, too! I just wonder if, or hope that, the final season fills in at least a little bit more of that stuff. She's as much more questions than answers as Jimmy is more answers than questions.

I think trusting Howard and then seeing what he turned out like did a real number on her.

like did he really need to kill the panda?

I actually just had to look up why Jimmy and Kim were so vindictive toward Howard. Yeah, he didn't treat them right, but a lot of that was at Chuck's behest, and even if Kim snapped because Howard "turned out like did," she's also currently married to a man who came back wounded and traumatized from wandering the desert as a money mule for a major drug cartel, where lots of people got killed and they shot his coffee mug and they were menaced by a charming psycho, so ...

So yeah, Kim is complicated. It could be just in my head, but it seems that she always escalates when Jimmy is either ready to call it quits or call them quits. But she's such a strong character that I really have to think the show wouldn't put in her in that sort of regressive position, either as a Lady MacBeth or a "I Did It All For Love" type. She's really tangled, the sort who would litter a parking lot with broken glass one night and sweep it up in the morning. I suppose we'll see, but it's a tricky narrative line they're walking. There are lots of reasons she would be vengeful or have a chip on her shoulder. It's less clear why she would be so self-destructive, especially since we've already learned she can get away with sketchy stuff at no professional cost. She does definitely seem to be the sort of character who would take issue with *that* so maybe she is punishing herself for ... getting away with questionable behavior even while advancing her career? That does seem like why she keeps going back to doing pro bono cases, and she's been called on it on the show. But they've barely delved into what makes her tick, and they only have one more season to do it. It's a credit to Seehorn that she portrays they character so well, so fully, that I suspect there's a good answer in there, whether we get it or not.

Unless they give her her own show, which would be awesome. A prequel series to a prequel series.

Yeah the pro bono cases are definitely in line with her character breaking bottles, then sweeping them up. I feel like I've known a Kim or two irl. In fact, she's so well-drawn and familiar that I don't care if they don't explain why she is that way, though I admit the one small flashback we got was intriguing

so uh odenkirk went full fucking marvel workout and changed the shape of his face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlSW7MXEUXE

does a muscular face always look like it's been punched by Soda Popinski

the trailer is also uh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8j6P8QtAYw

he's Judge Doom

Well he at least says GOD DAMN in it, which is one of his strengths as an actor.

i am legit stoked for this tho tbh

it looks kinda boring tbh? also looks like it literally takes place in the John wick universe

i don't put much stock in trailers

I'm into Bob Odenkirk as John Wick and will watch the hell out of this

SAME

I have always loved Odenkirk for his barely concealed rage & there is nothing I want more than to see him finally just crack fuckin skulls BRING IT ON <3

It was so weird to Odenkirk as the gullible, softy chief in the first season of Fargo. Much more psyched for the John Wick version.

That looks killer

this is so bizarre but damnit I'm gonna watch it

GIVE ME THE GODDAMN KITTY CAT BRACELET is a very Mr Show moment

ohhh shit, take my money, no really, take some more of it

xpost otm

I saw the trailer less as John Wick and more as ... Falling Down or something like that.

first time I saw John Wick was on network TV

my brother asked me what I thought and I said "it was pretty entertaining but I couldn't really follow it, I think they cut out a lot of the plot" and he was like "no they didnt"

Better Dome Saul

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2020 season is nominated in the 2020 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Long interview with Bob Odenkirk. Season 6 filming now...

https://tv.avclub.com/bob-odenkirk-says-he-d-like-to-be-surprised-by-better-1846491847

So as expected, Nobody is a complete blast.

yeah it was fun and diverting enough.

So these guys vaguely threaten a girl on a bus and knock a book out of a guy's hand and Nobody puts them all in the ICU and proceeds to kill everyone in the local Russian mafia and burn their retirements because his son thought he was a wuss? Sure, I'm in.

First and foremost, this is not Jonathan Banks. But I saw this dude today, and ... damn.

https://i.imgur.com/2ToTiPC.jpg

wow

!

This is not as good, but a few months ago I posted this photo of Dave Hickey on one of the separated-at-birth threads.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/dave.jpg

also good

what no

Bob Odenkirk Hospitalized After Collapsing on Set of 'Better Call Saul' https://t.co/z6ppAasjS9

— TMZ (@TMZ) July 28, 2021

oh no

fuck noooo, come on man, be ok.

please be dehydration or something … please be ok

we love u Bob

The scariest thing about this is, whenever it exactly happened, it's the next day and the stories haven't been updated yet to say what happened or what his condition is. I really wish we get some good news soon.

From this Variety story:

“I was at the wonderful 87eleven gym, surrounded by the top stunt actors in the world training, including people like Keanu Reeves and Jason Statham and Halle Berry,” Odenkirk said. “I’m a comedy writer, who is gradually sufferingly making my way into this discipline. I was just feeling embarrassed at how bad I was when these pros are 25 feet away.”

That quote is old, though.

Related to his training for Nobody, potentially related as far as how far he has pushed his body in the past two years.

I was really hoping it'd be a case of dehydration or something from a long day of filming in the heat, but the lack of follow-up this morning has me concerned. I'm really pulling for him.

I will share what I know when I can but Bob is one of the strongest people I know both physically and spiritually. He WILL get through this.

— david cross✍ (@davidcrosss) July 28, 2021

Gotta be honest, seeing that this morning was not as reassuring as I'd hoped.

Agreed the wording feels like an implication of something more long term and/or that much more critical in the short term. Particularly disconcerting to put it that way when preceding the announcement of the cause vs. the other way around when it would normally be reassuring following it.

Honestly, could be lots of things, simple or not. Maybe when he fell (because of the heat, say) he hit his head on something. I really hope whatever it is can be taken care of quickly.