same
― contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link
seems like a good way to lose money tbh
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
it's choosing not to actively invest in explicitly problematic and horrible companies and focusing on the less horrible and explicitly problematic companies... not sure what's wrong with that?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
lol how did that thread infest this thread oh wait
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
#1thread
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
i don't have fully formed thoughts on this and didn't want to troll the economics thread but it is a big question of ~~what is ethics under capitalism~~. similar questions with philanthropy, personal "carbon footprints," consumer politics, etc. tbh i hate these conversations on the internet *flounces off*
― contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
i don't wanna invest in guns or petroleum under any circumstances, that seems like a good place to start
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
that's fine, i don't want to either tbh
― contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link
tombot I didn’t want to infect that serious thread with my undereducated dribble but I guess I underestimated myself
― brimstead, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
your opinion is valid. you mean something. i hear you. i see you.
― contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link
you should all invest in my ethical technology company. i've invented a recipe for "bread". you add the pulp from your bananas to this bread. you bake the bread (you can do this using existing bread baking technology). when it's done, you find out how many spider legs were in those bananas -- thank god you didn't eat them! now throw the bread technology away along with any remaining spider leg filled bananas.
― it's a spicy dinner we're having (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link
I don’t really get the idea of ethical investing, it doesn’t seem compatible with the reality in which I assume we all live
― brimstead, Wednesday, August 19, 2020 12:23 PM (forty-nine minutes ago)
It depends on how you define "investing" -- mostly it's used along the lines of what ulysses s forks is saying, or you could just invest in stuff like federal and municipal bonds, which don't pay as good a rate of return, but in theory, you are supporting low income home ownership, agriculture, and infrastructure improvements . In a way, ethical investing is what led to the dismantling of apartheid fwiw. There are definitely structural issues if one wanted to be more ethical than just the investment equivalent of voting for Biden -- at least from what this thread, er the other thread, uh ilx, has made me think is that the majority of people have their savings in tax-deferred accounts, which tend to restrict what the money in them can be invested in.
There are a lot of "blended" business models at this point, in that they are entities focused on doing projects (building affordable housing, other anti-poverty and social justice type work) that do pay investors a decent rate of return rather than joining the nonprofit-industrial complex and spend countless thankless hours applying for grants and donations from rich white people (mostly). Many of these entities aren't things you can invest in through a tax-deferred account (401k, 403b, IRA, etc) -- so in a way that is an access to capital issue in and of itself.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
funny that a thread about an intensely likeable female politician has been filled with dull-as-dishwater dude blather all day
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
you... don't know why i asked for it, do you?
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:06 PM
sorry Kate, I didn't know you asked for it. I'm fine with it
― Dan S, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
is no problem, i'm glad most people don't need to think about the things i need to think about :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
Yeah on the radio there was a lead-in to a story about Soul City that got me thinking a little differently about this. i was just speaking my tin foil hat bullshit about a system that is built on exploiting “inefficiencies”... the whole damn enterprise seems based on deception, so cherry-picking funds etc.. Idk.. obviously we all want to invest ethically. I know this isn’t galaxy brain shit, I’m not on Twitter etc.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
<3 to you all, no shade
― brimstead, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
I would simply have fewer bookmarks.
― caută tu singur (gyac), Thursday, 20 August 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
what can i say? i'm vanguard.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
i'm Crystal Castles
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
dang, jealous of your trackball
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
[Hidden text. Tap to view]
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
tap tap tapping with his cay-ane
― sarahell, Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
-_-
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 21 August 2020 08:50 (three years ago) link
Bloomps
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 August 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link
But we’re all still going to run to the polls to vote for Joe Biden, right?
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 23 August 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
seems cruel to post here a post that would be in character for every thread. no chance of guessing.
― it's a spicy dinner we're having (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 23 August 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
Taking Sides: Blur or Oasis?
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 August 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
show hidden text
― budo jeru, Sunday, 23 August 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
i always thought it rhymed with "tamale" but with an "uh" ... rather than "pamela" with a "k" ... educational!
― horrorshow hidden text (sarahell), Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
zappa is music's glenn greenwald comments are closed
― mark s, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link
can't disagree with that
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link
never posting in another political thread in my life
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
I think I'd rather listen to glen greenwald's music!
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link
just because this variety of music annoys you, it doesn't mean you are actively obliged to rage about how it is shit and all sounds the same, if you did this for any other genre of music you would be rightfully called out for trolling or at least subjected to weary sighing, but uk indie music for various reasons is exempt from this rulea double standard I can understand is still a double standard. I'm not into this music but reading this thread makes me want to get very into it just to piss people off, not going to do that but I am not pleased to be tempted
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link
“rage”
― brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link
*swaggers oasis-like*
― brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
landfill indie /= all "uk indie music"
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link
oh it's one of them threads where pompous middle class book club pricks chirrup amongst themselves about how important and powerful they are as they slowly die!
― calzino, Friday, 28 August 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link
Show trial?
― Tim, Friday, 28 August 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link
You're right, it would be inefficient to wait until his body's cold before taking shots at his role choices.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 29 August 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link
It’s OK Andrew, for some people it’s just never not a good time to take cheap potshots at the most popular movies in the history of the world. It makes them feel smart.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 29 August 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link
Gone with the Wind was racist
― sarahell, Saturday, 29 August 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link
When there is only one poster left, ILX will have finally attained its true form. Their name?
[redacted]
― pomentiful (pomenitul), Saturday, 29 August 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
I suppose that’s one way of looking at it.
― 10000 lurk legend (gyac), Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
It’s OK Andrew, for some people it’s just never not a good time to take cheap potshots at the most popular movies in the history of the world.
this is probably the first and only bad time to do so tbf
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link
The poster (redacted) doesn't actually exist outside his head; it's a straw femininst / anti-racist / ~trans activist~ / whatever who he blames for why things aren't still the way they were back when he liked it in the 70s.
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 30 August 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link
I think Lao Tsu concisely summarised Aimless's ponderous and verbose post 20+ centuries ago, without feeling the need to get in an unsubtle ad hominem (ad feminem) attack:
Govern a great country as you would fry small fish: (Lightly - neither gut nor scale them)
― Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 30 August 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link
It shows.
― Scampos Runamuck (WmC), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
Fuck it. This shit isn't fun or even diverting anymore, and I've got things to do.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link