Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

We had to pledge allegiance to the US, then to Texas then sing a goddamned song about Texas

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maryanne-trump-barry-secret-recordings/2020/08/22/30d457f4-e334-11ea-ade1-28daf1a5e919_story.html

Maryanne Trump Barry was serving as a federal judge when she heard her brother, President Trump, suggest on Fox News, “maybe I’ll have to put her at the border” amid a wave of refugees entering the United States. At the time, children were being separated from their parents and put in cramped quarters while court hearings dragged on.

“All he wants to do is appeal to his base,” Barry said in a conversation secretly recorded by her niece, Mary L. Trump. “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.”

Barry, 83, was aghast at how her 74-year-old brother operated as president. “His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,” she said. “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit.”

Maryanne Trump Barry: ‘I’m talking too freely’

Lamenting “what they’re doing with kids at the border,” she guessed her brother “hasn’t read my immigration opinions” in court cases. In one case, she berated a judge for failing to treat an asylum applicant respectfully.

“What has he read?” Mary Trump asked her aunt.
“No. He doesn’t read,” Barry responded.

In the weeks since Mary Trump’s tell-all book about her uncle has been released, she’s been questioned about the source of some of the information, such as her allegation that Trump paid a friend to take his SATs to enable him to transfer into the University of Pennsylvania. Nowhere in the book does she say that she recorded conversations with her aunt.

In response to a question from The Washington Post about how she knew the president paid someone to take the SATs, Mary Trump revealed that she had surreptitiously taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019. She provided The Post with previously unreleased transcripts and audio excerpts, which include exchanges that are not in her book.

Barry has never spoken publicly about disagreements with the president, and her extraordinarily candid comments in the recordings mark the most critical comments known to have been made about him by one of his siblings. No one else in the family except Mary Trump has publicly rebuked the president.

The transcripts reveal the depths of discord between the president and his sister, illuminating a rift that began when she asked her brother for a favor in the 1980s, which Trump has frequently used to try to take credit for her success.

At one point Barry said to her niece, “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

Mary Trump, 55, told The Post recently that her uncle is unfit to be president and she plans to do “everything in my power” to elect Joe Biden. Her father, Fred Trump Jr., died of an alcohol-related illness when she was 16 in 1981. In her book, she says Donald Trump and his father mistreated her father.

The Post sought comment about the tapes from Barry and White House officials on Friday and Saturday and did not receive a response. After this story posted online Saturday night, the White House issued this statement from the president that said in full: “Every day it’s something else, who cares. I miss my brother, and I’ll continue to work hard for the American people. Not everyone agrees, but the results are obvious. Our country will soon be stronger than ever before!”

And so on.

“Every day it’s something else, who cares.”

This guy just straight barfs thread titles

xp

lmao

Not that this ultimately means anything, but that is some cold-blooded family shit.

slight whiff of the omen about this new twitter account, which may mean it's real

Take a look at Barron Trump (@BallerBarron): https://twitter.com/BallerBarron

he's either going to be in an asylum or managing a Shake Shack in 20 years

poor kid

I have a feeling from reading this that he's going to be just an asshole, quite possibly a very successful asshole

he will change his last name in less than 10 years

it's to be hoped that the trump name will be tainted forever, of course, but...

I asked my dad why people hate him. He said “Barron, when it comes to politics, that’s just the art of the deal.”

what?

I've beginning to think that he thinks that book is his dad

Which is the direction of fit is Barron trump named after a fictitious personal his dad used to lie to the media or is the fictitious persons named after the son of the liar.
& has it had any psychological impact on the poor lad. Or is it just one of a load of factors he's having to overcome.

I mean sympathy where sympathy's due so not sure in this case.

Persona got autocorrected twice there.

I have a feeling from reading this that he's going to be just an asshole, quite possibly a very successful asshole

you don't actually think that Twitter account is real, do you?

obviously it isn't actually him writing it. but the photo is real, and these apples do not fall far from this tree, if he really were writing it it would likely be no better.

I can't wrap my head around how reading someone LARPing as a child who's never spoken out loud in public is giving you any kind of read on the actual child's personality or future. He might be a dick! Or he might hate his father so much he becomes a good person. He's a child.

i can't wrap my head around how you think obvious joek posts made at 3 am were real prognostications of Barron Trump's future.

Because he said they’re not joke posts?

I'm assuming the account has been set up ahead of him speaking at the RNC, not as a 3am prank

So I tutor this kid who talks to Barron sometimes on Twitch. Apparently, he is planning a secret speech for the RNC, in which he’s going to excoriate his father’s handling of the crisis, his general lack of character, and the disfiguring effects of capitalist society on the human psyche—the real monster, the one that produced his father. As they haul him away he is going to shout “Medicare for all!”

This is real, guys.

Given that iirc none of the other Trump kids had a reputation for being total, complete, all-encompassing right-wing assholes before Alpha Asshole became president, but once he got elected they immediately seemed to step up - even Tiffany is speaking at the RNC - I'd say it's far more likely Barron Von Trump follows suit than goes the Ron Reagan Jr. route. But really, who cares. Fuck him and his whole family.

I mean, he’s just a kid, idk. He’s not complicit the way the others are, Tiffany included.

That's absolutely true. But point being that all of his kids were once just kids, too, and yet apparently they all turned out to be total assholes. As is Asshole's wife, as is his son in law. That can't be a coincidence, but you never know!

Anyway, hilarious that they're pretty much all speaking at the RNC. I'd say they locked in the Trump vote, but between Mary and Trump's sister, they've fallen short on that front, too.

his mom literally gave him caviar rubs after his baths until he was at least 7, I'm sure he'll be the first in his family to magically find a moral compass

That's just how they do it in Latveria.

Maryanne said on another occasion that her brother kept asking about Fox News. One day, Barry said, the president called her and said, “Did you watch Fox News?”

Maryanne Trump Barry tells President Trump she doesn’t watch Fox News

“No,” Barry said she told the president.

“Why not?” he said.

“I don’t watch much television at all,” Barry said she responded.

“What do you do?” the president asked.

“I read,” Barry replied.

“What do you read?” the president said.

“Books,” Barry said.

The president was incredulous. “You don’t watch Fox?”

This is real, guys.

that's what i heard, too

I won't believe it's real until people start talking pandas.

You haven't been following TechWorldNews, I see: Washington DC Zoo Working on App that Lets Humans Talk to Pandas.

That's just silly, anyone can talk to a Panda.

Barry say hi to me

anyone can talk to a Panda.

that's like saying anyone can talk to Beyoncé -- except first you need a backstage pass. And no one gets a backstage pass.

I bet she would give it to a talking panda in a heartbeat. She wouldn't even ask what it was doing there, she would be all, you, talking panda, we're going to hang. I bet she even has bamboo on her rider.

I bet she gets to beta test the app and I bet it was the panda who requested that.

The panda is all, psh, I spend all this time learning to understand human, and it turns out these fucking humans are too lazy to learn panda. I'd throw money at the problem myself if I had any thumbs, so I'll just get my girl Beyonce on it.

And yes, I know pandas have sort of fake thumbs, and no, you can't use Panda Thumbs as your stupid band names.

Actually, you totally can, Panda Thumbs is a great band name.

Latest in the Trump tax return fight: The 2nd Circuit denied Trump's request for an immediate stay while he takes the case up on appeal again. The court will hear args on the stay issue on 9/1 instead. NY DA's office agreed to give Trump until 8/28, so... pic.twitter.com/NtQ9h56z1u

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) August 24, 2020

lots of speculative posts about the inner life of a child itt. very cool!

(cont'd) ...Trump could try to petition the 2nd Circuit to reconsider en banc, or ask SCOTUS to step in. Absent a stay, the district court in its latest decision gave the DA's office the green light to enforce the grand jury subpoena for years of Trump's tax returns.

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) August 24, 2020

When President Trump mentioned Obama, someone from the crowd shouted, “Monkey!” and the president relished in it.

Disgusting.

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— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) August 24, 2020

Bit rich coming from Rick Wilson & Co
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screen-Shot-2020-07-09-at-9.53.57-AM.jpg

well yeah is anyone under any delusions regarding these guys?

i just posted for the video

Since there's no Melania thread:

https://www.theweek.com/speedreads/933226/melania-trump-reportedly-taped-making-disparaging-remarks-about-president-children

“Always wants me to pee on him, what the fuck?!”

Eric Trump is taking the Fifth.

You can’t take the Fifth if you didn’t have some potential criminal exposure. https://t.co/oVr1glCcgW

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 24, 2020

Between hurricanes, the RNC, covid, this ongoing NY AG stuff, the heat, more taped and otherwise on the record bullshit coming out, hints of other big news announcements imminent ... this week seems like it's just going to get crazier and crazier.

AG lays out why that legal 5th amendment defense is bogus in the filing they made to compel him to testify:

"Given the context in which this abrupt turnabout arose (purported concern about a
criminal proceeding), it is possible to read it as an invocation of the Fifth Amendment privilege.9

But is well-established that “a blanket claim of privilege could not be invoked prior to
questions actually having been asked.” Application of Waterfront Comm’n of N.Y. Harbor, 245
A.D.2d 63, 64 (1st Dep’t 1997); see also Matter of Parkhouse v. Stringer, 17 Misc. 3d 1119(A)
(Sup. Ct. N.Y. Cty. 2007), aff’d, 55 A.D.3d 1 (1st Dep’t 2008), aff’d, 12 N.Y.3d 660 (2009).
Hence, the Fifth Amendment cannot plausibly support Eric Trump’s blanket refusal to testify.
Nor has Eric Trump established any other basis to refuse to comply with his “general duty to
give what testimony one is capable of giving.” Jaffee v. Redmond, 518 U.S. 1, 9 (1996).
10 "

So that means ... you can't preemptively plead the fifth? I guess that makes sense.