We Still Have a Government, Right?: Canadian Politics 2020

you never see polls for these things, but it's gonna be mackay right?

I think it will be close, my sense is their base hates him

Xps. Good points floppy,maybe I'm being alarmist. My wife is a server and so I worry a lot about both the amount of strangers she is in close proximity to and also her restaurant shutting down lol.

As for the tories, their voting system is not popular vote but per ridings won right?

hope ur wife can stay safe jim!

O'Toole time

seems like a loser to me but wtf do I know about what Tories get excited by

This really is an Iowa caucus situation. @LeslynLewis won the popular vote in the second round but was third in the points pic.twitter.com/5izWoLkP4q

— ¡Nathan! (@thenathanfinn) August 24, 2020

As long as I am your leader, Quebec nationalists, like conservatives from all walks of life, will be welcome in our party.

https://erinotoole.ca/quebec-platform/

So, like I was saying, this seemed to me like the most distinctive thing about his online platform vs the other candidates'. This is actually a pretty long and comprehensive section of it. I think he might be hoping for a Mulroney-style union of angry Westerners and QC nationalists, although the obv differences are that Mulroney could speak French and came from QC.

is o'toole's French as bad as McKay's?

https://youtu.be/gmm7NKV0vTM?t=204

The face-offs between candidates are next-level.

wow, truly awful. I hope for the sake of francophones' ears and brains that he improves.

The bar is as low as it's ever been, but at least he's not that hard to follow?

Yeah, like Scheer (or maybe Chrétien or Bernier in English), he strikes me as OK on the level of comprehension and comprehensibility and is probably the least bad of the four, just a long way from Mulroney or anyone I could see nationalist Quebecers getting excited about.

Especially now that the Bloc is back in business and swiping votes from the Conservatives and NDP both.

lol

Je vais me tenir debout devant la clique du Plateau

— Erin O'Toole (@ErinOTooleMP) June 17, 2020

Haha what; what is the context for O'Toole needing to stand up to the hipsters (?) of the Plateau? Or was Laverdière mean to him or something?

No idea. I can easily picture Montreal being shorthand for godless black bloc commies with face tats and a feeble grasp of English among older Conservative crowds out West, but I doubt they've heard of the Plateau per se.

I'm sure "la clique du plateau" means nothing to most of Canada, but it's an attempt to get rural (and Quebec City) votes in Quebec. There's this whole thing about Montreal not being "real" Quebec.

That makes sense. Smart of him to go after the radio poubelle vote.

Well, yeah, he's obv targeting a RW franco Quebecois audience with that tweet; just seems like a bizarre angle to take for an anglophone from Ontario who I doubt has ever received much grief from QS or GYBE or whoever. (It would probably be a strange tweet even for a francophone from Ontario.) It does mean everyone is talking about O'Toole's attempt to court that vote, though, so idk maybe we need to watch out for buffoons in the social media age.xp

Statue of John A toppled and decapitated in Montreal.

same statue was previously decapitated (by separatists) in 1992; it has been vandalized at least four times in the past year

Macdonald and Montréal from our 2018 story. pic.twitter.com/Spi9run4kQ

— Les Perreaux (@perreaux) August 29, 2020

O'Toole's "Take Back Canada" (I always want to say "take Canada back") actually seems like a nastier slogan than "Make America Great Again", the more I think about it. At least the latter could be interpreted as saying "Make America great again for all Americans" (if you didn't know anything about the GOP). "Take Canada Back" explicitly identifies some portion of the population (presumably the elected government and the people who voted for them?) as enemies from whom the country needs to be seized.

xp Haha I didn't know or remember that.

La Presse, 17/11/92:

https://i.imgur.com/mZOsvjD.jpg

« C'est cool d'être canadien »

the eternal million dollar q

Hm, this from the National Post from 2 years ago, is actually a p good summary of MacDonald's ethnic cleansing of FN peoples in the Prairies: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/here-is-what-sir-john-a-macdonald-did-to-indigenous-people

I haven't read the whole article yet but the abstract seems to summarize well how taking the vote away from Chinese-Canadians in 1885 laid a foundation for the introduction of biological racism into Canadian law: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi-grzNk8jrAhXOUt8KHax8BngQFjABegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fojs.library.queensu.ca%2Findex.php%2FCRI%2Farticle%2Fview%2F5974%2F5934&usg=AOvVaw0ezn3fwgdMLoqzhZypFvne

I'm not educated enough to know what to make of this:

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trudeau-announces-cash-for-loans-support-to-black-canadian-entrepreneurs-1.1491443

Is there a First Nations equivalent?

I think so: https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1100100032796/1100100032800

and: https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1375201178602/1375202816581

Thanks.

So proud:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Quebec/comments/iryz0n/manifestation_antimasque_à_montréal_repost/

Gotta copy/paste that link, alas. It documents an anti-mask and, uh, pro-Trump protest we just had in Montreal. 10,000 people reportedly showed up.

Have there been such events elsewhere in Canada, and of a similar magnitude? Either way, it's hard not to feel ashamed by proxy.

Oh and a couple of Q flags apparently turned up as well, you just don't get to see them in the video.

Un peu surréel de voir un drapeau Trump juste à côté d'un drapeau de l'indépendance du québec et que le contexte c'est une manifestation contre des mesures de santé publique. C'est 2020 en tbk ça.

as I keep telling people, in many ways we're just the USA on a time delay!!

There was an anti-mask demo of about 100 people in front of City Hall here in July and there was an attempted anti-mask event in the Outaouais on the weekend that barely got anyone. Not sure if there were bigger ones elsewhere.

Anti-mask demo here tomorrow

Or today rather lol. Looks pretty big and I have to go downtown lol

as I keep telling people, in many ways we're just the USA on a time delay!!

― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, September 13, 2020 1:39 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

sad lol yes, perfect phrasing

It's a classic Simon zing, but necessary self-deprecation aside, I like to think we're talking about at least half a millennium here.

I dont think so

We're basically the states but with a slightly higher proportion of liberals vs conservatives

I might be more receptive to that angle if I wasn't living in Quebec (which comes with its own set of unique foibles, mind you).

Every person I know who has conservative family/in-laws reports some amount of Q, Covid conspiracy theory, 5G, Bill Gates etc. among them. My friend's uncle was kept in an ICE camp for months because he attempted to cross the border to save Trump from assassination by the deep state, and refused to ask to talk to a lawyer etc. when in custody

Oh I'm not trying to suggest that we are immune to such idiocy. QAnon has taken root in Germany of all places, so why wouldn't it thrive here? I simply disagree with the notion that Canada will inevitably be taken over by a homegrown Trumpian figure in the near future. I mean, Derek Sloan didn't even make it to the second round of the CPC's leadership election. But perhaps this is all just wishful thinking on my part?

https://twitter.com/qanonindia

Big jump in COVID today in Ontario--over 300 cases, first time since June. I've got my second supply job tomorrow, another next week. Wouldn't be surprised if schools close before the latter.