Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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Beat Generation is the b-side to I'm a Mummy, that's how I found out about it when i bought it last week!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

Had no idea about "Beat Generation" either. Great find!

JRN, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

IT's on a few compis , there's a Lux & Ivy dig the Beatniks with it.

I thought i might have it on a compi of beatnik stuff from the 90s but have no idea where the disc is and can't find the compi at the moment, would help if i could remember the title though.

Can see there was a 3cd set of Beatnik related stuff with it on from the early 90s that has some other great stuff on it including spoken word by several of the main writers.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 08:39 (three years ago) link

I read about "The Beat Generation" a long time ago in a Clinton Heylin book about Richard Hell but didn't get to hear it until 25 years when Spotify arrived. Discovering music used to be such a deferred pleasure.

fetter, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 09:29 (three years ago) link

I just find out (from my therapist!) what the phrase "a bird in the hand..." actually means

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 09:36 (three years ago) link

what did you think it meant?

Number None, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

thought it might have some somewhat obscurist origin like a lot of nursery rhymes do. Seems a loot of them have more satirical roots that have long been forgotten by most. Referring to transitory political situations though the rhyme sounds so nice its kept on isolated from its meaning

Stevolende, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

Didn’t really think about it at all! My therapist used the phrase and I was like, you know, I actually never learnt what that means

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

Probably been in here before but

Stakka Bo directed the Chernobyl mini-series, also Bowie's videos for Blackstar and Lazarus

did you all already know this or?

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Pineapples , the more orange the riper and I don't think they can be ripened once off the plant.
So need to check them in the shop to see what state they're in.
Presume that people shipping them cut them a little under ripe so they ship better and with less wastage from ripe ones rotting.
Weird to hear about places where these and mangoes just grow wild. But not been anywhere exotic for decades.

Stevolende, Monday, 31 August 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link

I have only briefly lived south of the 42nd parallel so seeing (and smelling) mangoes littering the street in Singapore and avocados and lemons just rotting on the sidewalk in Southern California was bizarre and exotic to me

joygoat, Monday, 31 August 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

This pineapple information is a revelation.

Alba, Monday, 31 August 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

I'm just used to seeing them o the racks of Irish supermarkets looking pretty green and i think I only found out earlier this year what the actual colour they were supposed to be. Hoping i haven't spent years thinking the colour wen the other way and missing the good ones.
BUt it does seem to work.

Stevolende, Monday, 31 August 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

I used to spend a bit of time in The Gambia and goddamn the mangoes were everywhere and extraordinary.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 31 August 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

I am severely colour blind and can't tell when bananas or mangos are ripe (or if meat is cooked) so this pineapple information is not really what I needed to hear.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 31 August 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

used to get loads of perfect lychee and longan when I lived in Guangdong, however was usually not allowed to eat them as they were "too hot"

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 31 August 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

I am shocked to learn that people would think green pineapples were ripe

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 31 August 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

I got drunk and sick on tequilla and pineapple in 89 and would never drink it or eat it again. That said i’ve never seen or cut it when it is not quite yellow, wtf is this green or orange nonsense.

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Monday, 31 August 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

My pineapple is a mix of green and yellow. Have I been sold a pup? Is there any point waiting any longer to eat it?

https://i.imgur.com/R1GeiPp.jpg

Alba, Monday, 31 August 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

You need to sniff its ass, that's the ticket.

totally not pomentiful (pomenitul), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

That dude is under-ripe, but could juicen up if you let it sot for a few days. Give it a squeeze with your fingertips, not your whole hand: if there's a little give, it should be okay; if it's pretty rigid, it'll likely be a bit tart. (You could still turn it into syrup for cocktails if it's not delicious enough to eat, or mb bbq / grill / skillet with brown sugar to make up for the lack of juice and sweetness.)

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

sot sit

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

At the start of this day I was under the impression this pineapple would ripen more if I left it. Then I learned the truth about pineapples, which I then imparted to my wife, who seemed to accept this information while also still maintaining that it would be better in a few days, not because it would ripen but because it would be … closer to rotting. I dismissed this 'third way', but it now seems to have the backing of sic, and I don't know what to think.

Alba, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

btw its ass isn't very smelly

Alba, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

Pineapple bidet?

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

The kind you find in a grocery store

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

jfc i am glad i wasn't drinking something just now

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

Lol @ that Neanderthal / sic assist and slam-dunk

tater totalitarian (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

totally needed that guffaw tonight :)

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

it's not yellow enough. the ass should be brown-yellow. if it is too brown (& smelly) it usually is still eatable but will taste more like canned pine-apple. sweet but not sour anymore. my fave pine-apple is sweet and sour (refreshing) at the same time. it gives me a kind of sparkling kick on the palate.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link

Have only bought pineapples pretty rarely even though i love the taste and they do seem to have been turning up pretty cheap recently. Which may not be a great sign re fair trade etc.

One of my relatives worked on a plantation that grew them i Kenya but my visit to the plantation was pretty short and several decades ago.
& they do seem to be on the shelves noticeably in a pretty narrow colour range. maybe all the good ones go early on or something. LIdl stacks unopened boxes in its reduced price area so you do get a bit of a chance.
BOth bananas and mangoes do ripen off the plant. I think banana skins even give off a ripening gas that is useful for ripening other fruit. I don't think it worked right on pineapples , certainly not in the way that you'd want it to. May mean it rots closer to the skin.

Have heard taht grilling pineapple can make it sweeter. Also the core is edible and contains roughage and nutrients and things.
Also heard one way of checking ripeness is testing how easily the leaves pull out.
Also if you're in teh right climate growing pineapples from the cut off tops is supposed to be reasonably easy but takes a great deal of space. Similar way to growing new veg from cutting off the top near where the leaves grow out, placing it on a saucer in water etc but I think you need something like a 6 foot spacing between the individual fruit with pineapple.

Plantains seem to be sold as green in most places over here. Which takes about 10 or 12 days to ripen in a paper bag or whatever.
ONly appear to be a couple of places that sell them yellow/brown to black.

& bananas sold commercially in the West seem to be pretty much seed free, probably involves grafting of plants etc like most apple trees do. Growing apples from the seeds you find in the fruit leads to crab apple like fruit several years down the line.
A banana seed for growing a plant is considerably larger than the black dots you see in a commercially sold fruit.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link

How easily do the green shoots (are they leaves?) pull out the top? If they come away easily, it's a sign of ripeness I believe.

The fact that blew my aged mind about the pineapple is that in almost every other single language in the world apart from English, it is called ananas, or some slight variation thereof.

fetter, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

I learned that once you can easily pull one of the leafs off a pineapple it's ripe. I found this to be true. Color blind proof, too

willem, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

x-post :)

willem, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

I think it's fairly clear by this stage that my pineapple has not passef the ripeness test. :(

I don't blame myself as it came in a delivery, so I had no chance to check it beforehand.

The only question remaining is what I do now.

Alba, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

yeah I think the representation of a pineapple you get in UK education etc is the colour of the fruit you showed. THink i was actually surprised to see a pineapple represented as orange some time over the last year.
Well shows how much the colonists know innit? Cos taht was more my source on growing up.

I presume taht if i was driven around my uncle's pineapple plantation I must have been offered some pineapple but that would have probably been something like 4 decades ago.

Have been using some pineapple for the last few weeks in the stir fry/stew I make as the week's food. Alongside mango, plantain and black banana. Not a big fan of eating the mushy ones on their own, bananas like. I think they probably offset the chillies etc I bung in.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

The only question remaining is what I do now.

a. eat it nevertheless, maybe try to grill it as stevo suggested
b. wait for a while which apparently won't change anything
c. plant a new pineapple tree by cutting off the top as stevo proposed
d. if you still have the receipt try to exchange it at the shop where you bought it
e. give it away as a present
etc.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

put it on a pizza, best place for it.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link

Blender, ice, and booze

tater totalitarian (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:21 (three years ago) link

CAaL otm

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

the pineapple is that in almost every other single language in the world apart from English, it is called ananas

I had a zoom meeting with a Britishes the other day where he improvised tags for our software using fruit, including "ananas".

"That's what you'd call a pineapple!" he told me while I wondered how I could call 9-9-9 internationally on account of this man having a stroke.

pplains, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

eat it nevertheless, maybe try to grill it as stevo suggested

hey now

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

WTF

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

Ewwww

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

A marrow is just an old courgette

Number None, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

I learned shockingly late that you shouldn't stick a Q-tip into your ear canal (even though the package clearly states not to). Now I've cut back to about once a week, and boy is it satisfying.

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

Ugh oh god if I only cleaned my ears once a week it’d be horrific.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

The side of the Q-Tip box lists a bunch of uses but conspicuously *not* sticking them in your ear. Because you should never stick anything smaller than your elbow in your ear.

Pineapple bidet?

B-side to "Raspberry Beret?" I've had more problems with pineapples getting overripe than being underripe. I had one that even started audibly hissing and oozing on the counter. By the time they make it here I think they're often pretty far gone.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

I'm a recovering qtip addict. Recently had temporary hearing loss from it which spurred me to kick the habit.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

I always point the shower head into my ears and taht seems to keep the canals pretty clear. Had to have them syringed a few times years ago.
Probably find out this isn't the best idea but does seem to work. Thankfully had a decently high power shower for the last few years.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link


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