Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Seems like he's saying Donald Trump is creating conditions under which violence in the streets is massively more likely if not inevitable and I would tend to agree. It's "why can't we all just get along" politics, which is really popular, and he's answering the usually-rhetorical question by saying "Donald Trump," and you don't have to tell me that a lot of people would say "no, the answer to that question is hundreds of years of racism of which Donald Trump is just the current manifestation," and fewer but still plenty of people would say "no, the answer to that question is the basic capitalist structure that either has taken over or always was the essence of the way American society works, and which itself constitutes a slow, grinding street violence that destroys more lives every day than all the Proud Boy riots put together" -- I get that!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

Good thing he condemns violence on the left and the right. I was worried about those danged antifas out there stirring up RAHOWA

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

The shooting death in Portland is being reported as if it were committed by the left, so it would be political stupidity for Biden not to condemn violence coming from the left in a press release addressing that death.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

Yes, but without the ILX vote his chances in November are slim to none.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

definitely an important point

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

The shooting death in Portland is being reported as if it were committed by the left, so it would be political stupidity for Biden not to condemn violence coming from the left in a press release addressing that death.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 30 August 2020 bookmarkflaglink

When you don't read theory.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

President Althusser does have a rather nice ring to it, minus the whole spouse murdering part... Let's go with President Adorno instead.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

lol I think of that Auden bit where he says a society which ran like a good poem, embodying the aesthetic virtues of beauty, order, economy etc would be a nightmare because for this society to emerge you'd have exterminate the physically and mentally unfit and demand absolute fealty to its leader

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

Then again, I'm not sure I trust Auden's conception of a 'good poem'.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

I'd trust Auden with most things except a boyfriend and my liquor collection.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

Good thing he condemns violence

He says he condemns all violence, so if Trump was any way compos mentis and debates actually go ahead, he could be demolished on questions about the Iraq invasion and drone-bombing weddings

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 30 August 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

His fans want those people died too tho

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 30 August 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

barely, in the abstract, yes, but they want to see Trump's enemies owned even more

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

haven’t drone bombings actually gone up under trump?

it’s just covered up by the rest of the shit he shovels every day. oh, and he ended the Obama-era policy of reporting civilian drone deaths

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

trump supported the iraq invasion and yes his drone policy is significantly worse than obama's, he could only "demolish" biden on these issues inasmuch as he has an uncritical cult following that would cheer on literally anything he said about an opponent

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

Yes, the hypocrisy is a big part of the point

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

In life, there is only the pwner and the pwned.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

fair and the fact that it hasn’t really been reported upon would help trump in that scenario

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

That's the success of "flood the zone with shit" - it's too easy to focus on the hundreds of tiny, merely outrageous or annoying things he does, that there's no room left in the information economy for the larger-scale, longer-term damages

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 30 August 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

lol I'm trying to imagine a debate scenario where Trump goes after Biden for too much drone bombing

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

If drones get mentioned at all it will be Trump bragging about killing Soleimani

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

Seems like he's saying Donald Trump is creating conditions under which violence in the streets is massively more likely if not inevitable and I would tend to agree.

Me too. A lot of what we are seeing is due to the climate of mutual hatred that Trump has helped create.

treeship., Monday, 31 August 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

"create"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

He poured gasoline on it

treeship., Monday, 31 August 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

Interestingly, the Latin creo (I create) and cresco (I grow) stem from the same root. So in that highly specialized, pedantic sense that I'm bringing up almost out of nowhere, treesh is correct: Trump has helped hatred grow.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

My new standard is I want a president who doesn’t try to make things as bad as possible at every opportunity.

treeship., Monday, 31 August 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

My first language is actually Latin. That’s what I was thinking of.

treeship., Monday, 31 August 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

arbornavis

totally not pomentiful (pomenitul), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

Biden: "I am not banning fracking. let me say that again. I am not banning fracking."

We're not in the primary any more...

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) August 31, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 31 August 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

Biden recruited Ocasio-Cortez to chair the climate task force, alongside former Secretary of State John Kerry. Members included Varshini Prakash, of the Sunrise Movement, which during the primary had graded Biden’s climate plan an F. At the first meeting, Kerry asked Prakash to speak first. The Sanders contingent wanted all-clean electricity by 2030; they were happy to settle for 2035. The biggest unresolved point of contention was fracking. “It’s not like I walked out of there with Bernie’s Green New Deal in hand, and I did not expect to,” Prakash said. “But it was a lot more collaborative, actually, than I was anticipating.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/08/31/can-bidens-center-hold

jaymc, Monday, 31 August 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

here's an idea: don't ban fracking. just put a proper cost on carbon and methane emissions that accounts for even a small portion of the damages they cause, and it won't be profitable to frack

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

At $2.64 per MMBtu, fracking isn't profitable for anyone now, with perhaps the exception of LNG exporters. Break even is typically $5-6 / MMBtu for the main shale plays. Last rig count of all rigs looking for NG was 79, the lowest its been for 35 years.

Sanpaku, Monday, 31 August 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

DEAD @ “don’t jump” 💀 pic.twitter.com/A5v0NsNVDc

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) August 31, 2020

i loled

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

That was funny and then I made the mistake of reading the thread and watching people squeeze the life out of it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link

You'd think a senile old coot would suffer from staircase wit.

totally not pomentiful (pomenitul), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

Biden should promise a Nationwide Pizza Party if he wins.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 31 August 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

Man that has been stuck in my head for 34 years.

DJI, Monday, 31 August 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

yup

Doctor Casino, Monday, 31 August 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

joe bidens silence on low flow toilets is deafening

— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) August 31, 2020

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 31 August 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

Barely a quiet burble

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

Well it's that low flow
T-oi-l-e-t
Flush these other fools, but you can't flush me?

Who am Iiiii?

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

None of which is to say you should fight like fuck against legislative capture but the fossil fuel industry. They’ll try every trick in the book to get the subsidies they need to make gas cheap again.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

party
pizza parrrrrty

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 07:29 (three years ago) link

fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck pic.twitter.com/jnPhvE2MAz

— Bes🌹 (@besf0rt) August 31, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 09:35 (three years ago) link

I too like to make fun of people that have a stutter.

— Political Platform Cannot Be Blank (@naughtaut) August 31, 2020

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

This isn't funny.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 09:46 (three years ago) link

Man that has been stuck in my head for 34 years.

― DJI, Monday, August 31, 2020 6:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yup

― Doctor Casino, Monday, August 31, 2020 7:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The onions are reminiscent of poop emojis.

peace, man, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link


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