Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

If drones get mentioned at all it will be Trump bragging about killing Soleimani

Seems like he's saying Donald Trump is creating conditions under which violence in the streets is massively more likely if not inevitable and I would tend to agree.

Me too. A lot of what we are seeing is due to the climate of mutual hatred that Trump has helped create.

"create"

He poured gasoline on it

Interestingly, the Latin creo (I create) and cresco (I grow) stem from the same root. So in that highly specialized, pedantic sense that I'm bringing up almost out of nowhere, treesh is correct: Trump has helped hatred grow.

My new standard is I want a president who doesn’t try to make things as bad as possible at every opportunity.

My first language is actually Latin. That’s what I was thinking of.

arbornavis

Biden: "I am not banning fracking. let me say that again. I am not banning fracking."

We're not in the primary any more...

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) August 31, 2020

Biden recruited Ocasio-Cortez to chair the climate task force, alongside former Secretary of State John Kerry. Members included Varshini Prakash, of the Sunrise Movement, which during the primary had graded Biden’s climate plan an F. At the first meeting, Kerry asked Prakash to speak first. The Sanders contingent wanted all-clean electricity by 2030; they were happy to settle for 2035. The biggest unresolved point of contention was fracking. “It’s not like I walked out of there with Bernie’s Green New Deal in hand, and I did not expect to,” Prakash said. “But it was a lot more collaborative, actually, than I was anticipating.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/08/31/can-bidens-center-hold

here's an idea: don't ban fracking. just put a proper cost on carbon and methane emissions that accounts for even a small portion of the damages they cause, and it won't be profitable to frack

At $2.64 per MMBtu, fracking isn't profitable for anyone now, with perhaps the exception of LNG exporters. Break even is typically $5-6 / MMBtu for the main shale plays. Last rig count of all rigs looking for NG was 79, the lowest its been for 35 years.

DEAD @ “don’t jump” 💀 pic.twitter.com/A5v0NsNVDc

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) August 31, 2020

i loled

That was funny and then I made the mistake of reading the thread and watching people squeeze the life out of it.

You'd think a senile old coot would suffer from staircase wit.

Biden should promise a Nationwide Pizza Party if he wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNcZHDopFb8

Man that has been stuck in my head for 34 years.

yup

joe bidens silence on low flow toilets is deafening

— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) August 31, 2020

Barely a quiet burble

Well it's that low flow
T-oi-l-e-t
Flush these other fools, but you can't flush me?

Who am Iiiii?

If a utility that pretty much sits on top of a mature fracked gasfield can’t see a way to making gas work - it’s dead without subsidy.

https://ieefa.org/ieefa-u-s-abrupt-shift-to-renewables-at-indiana-utility-underscores-a-broader-trend/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ieefa-u-s-abrupt-shift-to-renewables-at-indiana-utility-underscores-a-broader-trend&utm_source=Weekly+IEEFA+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a724de0fd6-IEEFA_WeeklyDigest&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_30c2b8506b-a724de0fd6-128747689

And right now Asian gas prices are well below break even for US exports.

https://ieefa.org/ieefa-report-china-unlikely-to-come-to-rescue-of-overbuilt-u-s-lng-industry/

None of which is to say you should fight like fuck against legislative capture but the fossil fuel industry. They’ll try every trick in the book to get the subsidies they need to make gas cheap again.

party
pizza parrrrrty

fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck pic.twitter.com/jnPhvE2MAz

— Bes🌹 (@besf0rt) August 31, 2020

I too like to make fun of people that have a stutter.

— Political Platform Cannot Be Blank (@naughtaut) August 31, 2020

This isn't funny.

Man that has been stuck in my head for 34 years.

― DJI, Monday, August 31, 2020 6:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yup

― Doctor Casino, Monday, August 31, 2020 7:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The onions are reminiscent of poop emojis.

Can't wait

And now, it's debate season .. pic.twitter.com/Wh9QNNDDOc

— Howard Mortman (@HowardMortman) September 1, 2020

have to tip my cap to Biden for doubling down on pizza in the time of Q. I guess this is what you call triggering the cons?

it's hilarious that they see the most popular food product ever as a secret code among pepo blood drinkers.

Biden campaign launches official Animal Crossing: New Horizons yard signs https://t.co/eqonQ9cLUA pic.twitter.com/c5K7KvECBR

— The Verge (@verge) September 1, 2020

Pokemon go cross the animal road and vote, Jack

from the extent to which people I personally know are obsessed with that game, probably a smart idea tbh

a solid 80% of the animal crossing crowd is going to poke their head out the door on nov 3, take in the reality of IRL, and then completely disregard voting and go back to a place where things make more sense

Tom Nook for Landlord

Going to play devil's advocate here, but he told u 4 x to get on the sidewalk, the 4th he said "or get arrested". U didn't comply, he followed thru. If you're brittle, why r u there? Y didn't u obey? There is chaos there, they don't care about u. Seems like u asked for that?

— Tracie (@traciej68) September 1, 2020

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Milo, meant to ask before but what do you make of the argument that liberals/moderates will be easier to move left under a Biden administration than a Trump one?

Milo, you do realize that citing one person with a Biden-Harris Twitter avatar who could be anyone at all or even a bot, means exactly nothing about Biden or Harris or how either would govern, don't you? It's even less of an indicator than when you see a car parked crooked across two parking spots and they have a Sanders bumper sticker.

Milo, meant to ask before but what do you make of the argument that liberals/moderates will be easier to move left under a Biden administration than a Trump one?

I haven’t seen anyone make that argument... but I would say it makes no sense. With their guy in power, libs and centrists are going to be more invested in defending him and his policies.

BLM support has been pretty uniform in large part because it’s oppositional to Trump. When people are in the streets under President Biden are the suburban homeowners going to be so positive?

Pokemon go cross the animal road and vote, Jack

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:27 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know it's more an opportunity to get jokes off than an actual campaign criticism, but the animal crossing yard signs thing is cute at best, corny at worst, and is not at all a thing that will move the needle one way or the other. pokemon go to the polls was much worse for various reasons.

It’s September 1, there’s plenty of time.

I haven’t seen anyone make that argument... but I would say it makes no sense. With their guy in power, libs and centrists are going to be more invested in defending him and his policies.

I think the idea is that eg Bernie grew in support from almost nowhere during the Obama years, and then under Trump significant numbers of people who might otherwise be amenable to Bernie went for the 'safe option' instead (I know there are plenty of other reasons for why that happened)

Or to put another way, if Biden is in power its easier to say to people "see, these issues are continuing even with your guy in power' as kind of happened during Obamas second term, whereas under Trump it reverts to "we'll worry about that later lets just get this guy out". And that if Trump wins the DNC are likely to move even further to the right for 2024 (think there are arguments in both directions on this one)

What success there has been by the 'progressive wing' doesn't appear to have come from conversions on the part of mainline liberal/centrist Democrats, though? Biden's (thus far) successful pitch has been "remember Obama? remember not having to watch the news?"

If The Squad somehow holds up a Biden/Pelosi-backed spending bill that gives cops $500 billion dollars if they promise to be less racist, do you think the average Biden voter is going to side with the Squad? I don't.

If The Squad somehow holds up a Biden/Pelosi-backed spending bill that gives cops $500 billion dollars if they promise to be less racist, do you think the average Biden voter is going to side with the Squad?

I don't think this

But it depends who we mean by average Biden supporter. The question is, are there people who are supporting Biden for the primary reason of wanting to remove Trump rather than anything to do with Biden himself? And if so does removing that reason (removing Trump) make people more amenable to moving leftwards in terms of policy and future candidates?

We have Biden because enough Dems were scared shitless that Bernie would lose to Trump. (Or they just hated Bernie...) Still crazy how all the candidate fell in line so fast for Biden the moment it was down to the last two.

My point is... I'm not sure how people feel about Biden's theoretical policies, which could probably change the minute he took office anyway. I think it's true though that the overriding feeling right now is just get Trump out.

xp I don't see how it does? The anti-Trump coalition is centered in the center-right - from the Lincoln Project to Biden.

Under what will most likely be an ineffectual Biden administration, there is an opportunity for growth on the left, as under the latter years of Obama and under Trump, but it doesn't come from pushing liberals and centrists to the left - the opportunity comes from bringing in otherwise disillusioned people and young people. (Which is kinda like the method Obama used to beat Hillary in the first place.)

Liberals and Democratic centrists are already committed to the party as an institution. Even if you drilled down to their actual political beliefs and illustrated how they differ from Pelosi or Biden, their roles as party avatars is more important.

If The Squad somehow holds up a Biden/Pelosi-backed spending bill that gives cops $500 billion dollars if they promise to be less racist, do you think the average Biden voter is going to side with the Squad?

this is such a ridiculous premise lol

Is it? Bernie's increased prominence came from the Berniebuster holding up Obama's grand tax cut bargain with the GOP, Biden is already on record wanting to lay out hundreds of billions for cops.

It is perhaps too charitable to think Biden would demand less racism of them for the money, I guess.