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that sucks, SMG2 was the best of those games IMO

Sunshine is one I wanna revisit someday, I remember the overwhelming consensus being "this game is good but it's got a lot of problems" and indeed the main thing I remember is how glitchy it was. but the humongous worlds were legitimately very cool and I loved all the 'secret' areas

3D world is great too, when you go back to the other New SMB games it's really apparent how much better this one is

frogbs, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

sunshine is solid its just the bar is so high for these games. also having the shine order in each level be railroaded after the free-explore approach of 64 was a disappointment at the time, but then iirc galaxy continued with that and everyone got used to it until they brought free explore back for odyssey

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

one thing I remember is there's a level where you have to shoot water at a puzzle and flip all the pieces to the same side but the waterpack controls were so clunky that you couldn't shoot with any precision and so you either got lucky or quit in frustration

also remember certain sections of the game be surprisingly difficult, like "there has to be something I'm missing because what they want me to do here is basically impossible"

I think if they'd given it another 6 months it could've been real great, and iirc the Gamecube was really hurting for a flagship title at that point

frogbs, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

there's definitely some difficulty spikes but i don't remember anything that hard

though there's this one level that apparently is now infamous for being bullshit thanks to a giant bomb stream where they fucked it up repeatedly and blamed the game but i had 0 difficulty with it as a kid??

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

This is great but windddddd wakerrrrrrrrrrr

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

that famous super mario game, wind waker

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

next year is Zelda anniversary, I'm expecting BOTW2 and ports galore then

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

the all important 35th

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

they're making a big deal of Mario's 35th ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

they're making a lot of money off of Mario's 35th

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

the age when mario might say 'this is not my beautiful castle. this is not my beautiful princess.'

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

no sufjan, this is NOT-A my A-beautiful A-castle, YAHOO?

Nhex, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

now im thinkin about a dark gritty mario lol

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 3, 2020 10:44 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thank you Nintendo pic.twitter.com/wxt0sm7VH8

— Punk Duck (@PunkDuck_) September 3, 2020

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 September 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

Super Mario 3D All Stars seems like a good idea but idk if it's worth shelling out 60 bucks. I never played Sunshine or Galaxy tho

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 5 September 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

lol so *now* you all start complaining about nintendo prices.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 September 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

i mean i only started buying video games again this year after like 12 years of being out of the loop so i had zero opinion on this before & i am not part of this "you all" you speak of

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

with galaxy 2 the math would change significantly but as is galaxy 1 + sunshine taken together is still like the 3rd or 4th best $60 mario game on switch

ciderpress, Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

maybe 5th best if we're counting the 3d world rerelease thats not out yet

ciderpress, Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

everyone seems to love 3D World these days but I thought it was a bit disappointing tbh, as single player game anyway

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

yeah i havent played it hence the maybe. i have the 3ds one though and wasn't really into it

ciderpress, Saturday, 5 September 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

oh $60 is awful for super old remasters. and the Vault scheme doubly so. but sigh i'd rather get it now, then not be able to, or have to shell out for a working Wii and copies of the originals

Nhex, Sunday, 6 September 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

i shant let the limited time thing work on me, if they want to lock me out from galaxy on switch forever then so be it

ciderpress, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's on my list, but somewhere down there. if they want to make me wait another 10 years to play super mario sunshine, so be it

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 September 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

Very curious about this game

"former Kotaku video producer Tim Rogers oversaw its translation and localization."

https://kotaku.com/offbeat-90s-rpg-moon-finally-heads-west-on-august-27-1844559777

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 7 September 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

into it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

its a cult favorite yeah, was an inspiration for undertale and various other meta-rpgs like that

ciderpress, Monday, 7 September 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

Just wanted to express: God Bless Nintendo for sponsoring the TV showing of the We Bear Bears movie. It's cute and funny as the show is, but they really made the immigrant motif pretty explicit to end the show, and it turns out the movie is agitprop against ICE detention and family separation. Beautiful.

Nhex, Monday, 7 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

(It was a "limited commercial interruption" affair, so pretty much all Cartoon Network and Switch ads.)

Nhex, Monday, 7 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

I've been playing Burnout Paradise Remastered, alone, and with my kids (handing off when you get wrecked), and it's super fun. It feels so fast, the physics are just wild enough while the controls still feel tight enough. The takedown and crash animations are exciting as ever, and the island (I think it was a DLC?) is chock-full of crazy-ass jumps. The only lame part is the tedious "Showtime" mode, a watered-down version of Crash mode that can be activated anywhere. Also, the passing of time is kinda cool, but it's pretty hard to beat any challenges in the dark, so I tacked the time to daytime. Highly recommended!

DJI, Monday, 7 September 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

new monster hunter for switch, march 2021

also monster hunter stories 2, sometime next year

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

This we bear bears’ guys Instagram is very good

https://www.instagram.com/p/CE-Cw4RjHZa/?igshid=124b1lbbuqmkb

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

As someone who’s new(ish) to modern gaming, I will never understand this weird depressive strand of fan entitlement

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/super-mario-3d-all-stars-review

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

It’s asking fans to pay for the same games again without adding anything, don’t think “what does this edition add” is an unreasonable question

scampo italiano (gyac), Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

I haven’t played them!

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

otoh i don't think re-releasing a bunch of old games on a new system and saying "nothing's changed here btw, shell out for them if you want to" is an unreasonable marketing position

i never owned any of these games as I never had a Nintendo console growing up, but i really really loved Mario Odyssey so i think probably i am part of the target market for these reissues. maybe ppl who played them all first time round aren't part of the target audience in quite the same way? anyway i'm gonna buy em and play the shit out of em

xpost @ gyac

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

I think I'd be more cool with constant ports and re-releases if those ports and re-releases were not substitutes for new releases. I mean, I didn't play a lot of these games, either, because I didn't have many of those old systems. But one reason I didn't have those old systems (or even, say, the Wii-U) is that I didn't particularly want to play those games!

Anyway, how is Hades? Looks cool.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

i think one reason people are resentful about release like these is they have a video game shopping compulsion and will buy them even though they dont want to

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

they really shdve made mario64 widescreen and included galaxy 2 tho thats just common sense

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

idk Josh i think that that is maybe quite an idiosyncratic position. i certainly didn't opt out of Nintendo systems growing up because i thought the games looked bad, i just fell hook, line and sinker for the Sony and Microsoft AAA game marketing when i was young and didn't know any better. but then i have no problem with the Nintendo model of releasing 2 or 3 really great headline games each year that I can sink weeks and weeks into, that suits my needs just fine

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

heres the real fucked up thing tho obviously there should be a super mario bros game thats mario cart themed i believe ive spoken on this subject before a super mario game that takes place in the mario cart world if you will

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

i think part of it is that whether due to covid disruption or whatever else nintendo doesn't have a big tentpole fall release this year and so this thing that would normally be a release calendar filler is being treated as such

ciderpress, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

by both nintendo and by the audience, i should say

ciderpress, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

they shd make more games hire some more guys maybe

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

they love prototyping so much that they forgot to make games afterward

ciderpress, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

xpost I guess in the end it's just a different strokes different folks situation. I had the original Nintendo, then never got another Nintendo system - console or handheld or anything - until the GameCube. I can't really remember *why* I got the GameCube, but I honestly don't remember playing it too much, either, despite loving games like Eternal Darkness and Luigi's Mansion. Next machine I got was the Wii, which at first I didn't play much either, and sold. But then *rebought* several years down the line after I learned how to hack it and stock up on games from the library. *That* one I did play, and my kids liked it, too.
I skipped the Wii-U mostly because we were still doing fine with the Wii, but I did buy the Switch because I thought my kids would enjoy it. Yet weirdly, they have not! Not particularly. In fact, games they used to love on the Wii (like Just Dance and Animal Crossing) they outright *dislike* on the Switch.

Now, I never bought any of the other Sony or Microsoft systems, either, but as I remember it I finally relented and bought a PS4 after "Dark Souls Remastered" was delayed indefinitely on the Switch. I think I thought to myself, you know, I bought the Switch thinking it a good compromise that would get some of the big games that other systems got, but also get some cool Nintendo games. Which it did, at first. Then "Dark Souls" was delayed, then "Doom" was delayed and/or ran like shit. Buying "Doom" in particular made me particularly wary of ever paying $60 again for a dubious port when, in this case, the uncompromised version on the PS4 was going for literally 1/10th the price. And as I've been diving into ridiculously cheap PS4 games I'd never played a second of, with graphics better than anything I'd ever seen before, the Switch is sorta seeming more and more disappointing to me.

Now, I'd probably have no problem if Nintendo really was releasing "2 or 3 really great headline games" a year, but ... they're not? The games I've played and enjoyed the most on Switch have been indies like Hollow Knight or Ori or Cuphead and Steamworld that were released for all systems, or other systems, not Nintendo exclusives. With the rare exception of stuff like BotW, but that game seems to be a rare exception full-stop. Otherwise, yeah, it's the Nintendo games that are not drawing me in. But that's probably just my personal tastes, which I'm learning leans toward stuff the Switch couldn't handle even if they released it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Zelda, Odyssey, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Super Smash Bros, Animal Crossing

that's pretty solid imo, a nice mix of big single and multiplayer titles. it's worked very well for me cause i've been living with friends and between Mario Kart / Tennis Aces / SSB / Rocket League i've probably sunk more hours into local multiplayer in the last 2 years than since i was very young and it's been a total blast. i guess i had reached a point where online games and first person shooters like COD and single-player AAA stuff like Dark Souls just wasn't ever gonna work for me again, it doesn't provide what i want from video games

even a game like Mario Party which in itself is nothing special has been a huge hit in my household, it's got my gf, my female flatmate, other girl friends and partners of good friends of mine (p much all of whom had previously expressed contempt at the very idea of video games at some point) playing together and having a whale of a time. i don't think any of the other systems offer anything close to the accessibility of Nintendo and that's a big plus.

interesting that your kids aren't bothered - are they teenagers? do they enjoy Playstation or Xbox? i'm contradicting myself slightly cause i already said that i didn't actively avoid Nintendo stuff growing up cause it was too cartoony or whatever, but I definitely think that for most teenagers yr GTAs, Red Deads and Skyrims are more immediately appealing than Mario or Zelda

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

reading that back and it was very clumsily worded - i guess what i was trying to get at was that 'gaming' for me growing up was pretty exclusively a boys thing, lots of COD and Battlefield, lots of Fifa, lots of PC strategy games. the Switch is the first console i've ever owned where girl friends of mine have been just as interested as the boys and it's been really great

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

Smash would've been better if the online wasn't kinda broken-ish. But from what I understand the wifi performance on the Switch isn't even good (hardware or software-wise) compared to the competition. But yeah, still a great generational game even without that

Fire Emblem: Three Houses is supposed to be pretty great, and coincidentally I am cracking that open this weekend

Nhex, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

Zelda, Odyssey, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Super Smash Bros, Animal Crossing

All of which (save AC) were released 2-3 years ago. Zelda I loved, Odyssey ... I just couldn't get into it. Animal Crossing and Tennis Aces I was never going to play, but it would be nice if they had something for the Switch like Wii Sports. The kids do like Mario Kart and Smash, but mostly as an occasional diversion. I've brought it up before, but afaict it's still largely boy-driven. Or at least of all my fellow parents, none have daughters into gaming, just boys into it, and those boys are reeeeeeealy into it.

My kids are now officially both teens, btw. The games they like are stuff they play with their friends online, like some imposter game ... Among Us? That might be it. And other phone games, mostly, though the older one loves The Sims. No interest in the PS4, but that could be because they see the games I play and those don't seem like games they'd like. But also they're into different things. My older daughter did see the trailer for the Harry Potter PS4 game, though, and thought it looked cool.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

among us, like fall guys, got huge super fast.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link


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