Sun Ra in Chronological Order: An Arkestra Listening Thread + Related Solar Sounds

Also like the Sun Ra piano and Walt Dickerson vibes album.
As TylerW says on Twitter, "Wild Sun Ra auction going down just now." I've got some of this, maybe you do too---looks like prices have gone up--also several items I've never even heard of, naturally:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=324285488046&_ssn=mourning_warbler&_sop=1&_ipg=100&rt=nc&fbclid=IwAR30I7OI_LVusIYH-I6tO76_4blBBoqr_093H9XS6spOx4_ndy5G5PbOQtk

Sorry sleeve! Posted without looking first! But yeah dig Sun-Walt.

Visions, that is. Workingmen's holiday, Sun Ra in shore leave attire:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visions_(Sun_Ra_album)

10/14/77 - My Favorite Things/Some Blues But Not The Kind That’s Blue

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https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3000359487_10.jpg

Originally released in 1977 on Saturn, then on CD with the new title by Atavistic in 2008, and finally as a Bandcamp reissue in 2015.

Sun Ra Sundays:
On October 14, 1977 the Arkestra entered Variety Recording Studio for their first studio recordings in over two years. With their increasingly busy touring schedule and tenuous finances, most Saturn records from here on out would be made live rather than in a studio—not even one as low-budget as Variety. These sessions yielded the obscure LP, Some Blues But Not The Kind That’s Blue, released on the Chicago Saturn label as LP 101477 in 1978. Alternative titles include My Favorite Things and Nature Boy and may display alternate serial numbers, LP 1014077 and 747 (see Campbell & Trent pp.241-242 for the gory details). In any event, this is one of rarest of rare Saturn LPs, with very few copies known to exist.

From the Bandcamp notes:
Some Blues But Not the Kind That's Blue is a Sun Ra rarity: an album recorded at a single session, with the location, date and personnel generally agreed upon by historians. It was also a fairly cohesive album, featuring small units of the larger Arkestra playing idiosyncratic arrangements of Tin Pan Alley standards. This is largely an acoustic piano album, with Sun Ra's keyboard in prominent focus, the horns and percussion serving primarily in support roles with occasional solos. There is no bass except on the opening title track, which was the only Sun Ra original to appear on the 1978 Saturn LP edition. An unreleased, untitled session outtake, a free-form collective improv, was first included as a bonus track on a posthumous CD reissue; it appears on this 2015 remastered edition with an assigned title. (more on that later)

Confusingly, the Atavistic CD adds two bonus tracks from 1973, but they are not the same as the Bandcamp track, and not included on that release. The Sun Ra Sundays guy (and Christopher Trent) also insist that one of the original tracks (the title track) is live, not studio.

The Bandcamp bonus track has even less clarity regarding provenance:

The title of the bonus track was assigned by Michael D. Anderson (of the Sun Ra Music Archive), who played with the Arkestra sporadically during this period, and identified the piece as a developmental version of "Outer Reach Intense Energy." The title doesn't reappear in the Ra catalog until 1985, when a radically different arrangement turns up on a collection of live tracks called Stars That Shine Darkly Vol. 2. However, the provenance of those recordings is conjectural, with a strong likelihood they were made between 1975 and 1978, around the time that Some Blues was recorded.

Listening now, I dig it.

https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/some-blues-but-not-the-kind-thats-blue

https://www.discogs.com/Sun-Ra-His-Arkestra-Some-Blues-But-Not-The-Kind-Thats-Blue/master/278043

OK this 10-minute "My Favorite Things" is fantastic

10/24/77 Unity

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Happy Friday! This actually just got reissued on Bandcamp yesterday, so I thought it was particularly serendipitous that it was the next one in our journey.

Recorded live in Stonybrook, NY, and released on the Italian label Horo in 1978 as a double LP. Recently also bootlegged on the shitty B13 label. Prices are pretty insane on Discogs (starting at $95!!), I’m glad this was reissued. Sun Ra Sundays notes in 2013:

While there are no outrageous, improvised freak-outs, mad-scientist keyboard experiments (nor tediously overlong percussion jams and space chants), Unity is a classic Sun Ra record—and home to some of Gilmore’s finest playing ever committed to vinyl. Despite the rough and ready sound quality, the accessible repertoire and stellar performances makes this another ideal introduction to Sun Ra’s music for the newcomer. Too bad it’s so hard to find.

This looks like a lot of fun, some old standards in the setlist. Join me in listening!

cool !!

yep, this one is a blast

this was fun, even if it felt at times like chintzy '70s roller rink music / wacky blooper reel soundtrack. sort of jubilant throughout, with shades of ellington. not something i'm likely to return to, but it's nice to confirm that the sun ra bandcamp folks lurk here, even if they won't admit it !!

November 1977 - The Soul Vibrations Of Man

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“The Soul Vibrations of Man and a companion LP, Taking a Chance on Chances (or "… on Chancey"?), were pressed shortly after being recorded at a November 1977 gig at Chicago's Jazz Showcase. […] It's a typically eclectic set: loose improv, coalescing flutes, insistent horns, and restless percussion, amid space chants, cosmic sermons, and ballads.”

Bandcamp link

Revive! This pair of LPs closes out the year 1977, There are cheap Scorpio vinyl presses of at least one of these but as always the Bandcamp versions are definitive.

I have not actually listened to this one yet, but it felt like a good time to revive.

"If Unity presents the more approachable, trad-jazz side of Sun Ra and his Arkestra, the next item in the discography shows they were still capable of getting mighty strange during this period"

https://nuvoid.blogspot.com/2013/03/sun-ra-sunday_31.html

Good one, thanx. For last year's blog roundup, beyond constraints of some ballots (which I did send in), this 'un made my Real Top list (of first time releases and reissues):
Sun Ra & His Arkestra: Somewhere Over The Rainbow (Beyond Saturn)
And these made More Top Reissues:
Sun Ra & His Arkestra,Lanquidity (2-CD Ed.)
Sun Ra & His Arkestra, Sleeping Beauty (Expanded)
Comments:

Sun Ra & His Arkestra's Somewhere Over The Rainbow (Beyond Saturn) is mah ideel, at least in 2021, combo of SRA exotica, relatively other originals, and respectfully recharged covers, though Sleeping Beauty (Expanded Edition)comes close, while lingering too wispy w the exotica for my tastes. Despite its title, this 2-CD version ofLanquidity is not so languid, more of a sly, lean grid excursion, bra hook braille, that electric Miles might approve, or should.
https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/somewhere-over-the-rainbow-beyond-saturn Also see bandcamp for my other picks, and several more from over the years and sources.

we're gonna be getting into all of those soon! part of the very productive and creatively amazing 1978-1979 period

oh wait we covered SOTR previously, the other ones were recorded after the Italian tour material

another relevant note as I start to dig in to this one:

"Considering the rush-release of these two albums, the mystical cover illustration for Soul Vibrations is quite elaborate, which (with a few notable exceptions) was not standard practice for Ra's private pressings during the 1970s. Most Saturn LPs appeared in blank, generic—though often hand-decorated—sleeves. The Soul Vibrations artist is unidentified."

We’re starting to get into that weird period of the 70s where some of these live recordings clearly have a lot of visual elements as well, that don’t come through in the audio. At any rate, this is a solid set and probably my favorite version of “Enlightenment.”

Talking of which, got to give credit to Morgan Fisher for covering it on his 1979 Hybrid Kids album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9juDVbMuhBY

pretty soon i'll be in a spot where i can resume weekly updates to this. if anybody's interested in a reboot

hell yeah!

hell yes

I’ve been meaning to get into Sun Ra, so count me in.

yessss

fwiw for budo jeru, here's my unofficial list of what we still have to cover:

taking a chance on chances 11/77

1978
new steps
other voices, other blues
Of Mythic Worlds side A (April ’78)
media dream 2CD
sound mirror
disco 3000
lanquidity LP
the other side of the sun
the spirit of jazz cosmos (WUHY live)
solo keyboards (Minnesota 1978)
visions (w/Walt Dickerson)

1979
song of the stargazers
on jupiter LP
sleeping beauty FLAC
strange celestial road
god is more than love could ever be
omniverse
I, pharoah
live from soundscape

1980
sunrise in different dimensions
voice of the eternal tomorrow
aurora borealis
dance of innocent passion
beyond the purple star zone
oblique parallax
haverford college 1980

1982
ra to the rescue
just friends
(a fireside chat with lucifer) FLAC
celestial love FLAC
nuclear war

1983
Paris 1983 (Bandcamp)
meets salah ragab
stars that shine darkly
love in outer space (live in utrecht)

1984
live at praxis 1-3
star that shine darkly vol. 2
cosmo sun connection
when spaceships appear

1986
hours after
reflections in blue
phil alvin?
john cage meets sun ra?
a night in east berlin

1987
v/a bratislava jazz days (1 track)

1988
hidden fire 1 & 2
“pink elephants on parade” from stay awake
cosmo omnibus imaginable illusion
Blue Delight
somewhere else (a)

1989
second star to the right
stardust from tomorrow
Purple Night
somewhere else (b)

1990
live in london 1990
“egyptian fantasy”
pleiades live
mayan temples
live at the hackney empire

1991
live at inter media arts
friendly galaxy
at the village vanguard

1992
Live in Ulm 1992
destination unknown
a tribute to stuff smith
“I Am the Instrument”

great.

sleeve, that looks good. i'll cf. the discos i have and get something posted next week

Taking a Chance on Chances
November, 1977
first released as Saturn 772 (LP) in '77
aka "a tonal view of times tomorrow" and "saturn research"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOKbOvBGRN0

This was recorded in Chicago and is from the same session that produced the previously-discussed companion LP, SOUL VIBRATIONS OF MAN.

I dig how funky and bluesy this rendition of "St. Louis Blues" is. Also am all about this clippy, cosmic organ version of "Take the 'A' Train."

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I'm consulting the classic Trent/Campbell disco (ed. 2) and the newer Geerken/Trent disco (Art Yard) as well as sleeve's list. Next week we'll close out 1977 with three solo piano performances recorded in Italy, before moving into 1978 w/ NEW STEPS.

(i just moved and finally got all my books out of boxes, so hopefully that will mean i can update more regularly from here on out ...)

wooooo thanks, will listen later

this album is prob one of the most glaring examples of the many well-known issues with original Saturn pressings. from the Bandcamp reissue liner notes (digitally, this is effectively a different release entirely)

As for the manufacturing flaws in Taking a Chance, here's a description by blogger Rodger Coleman: "The pressing defect manifests itself in a woefully unbalanced stereo presentation and a near-constant overlay of scratchy noises and horrifically ugly distortion which only begins to clear up towards the end of the side. Ugh. Pressing the mono button helps a little (if you have one) but not much. As listeners to Soul Vibrations already know, these are not great-sounding recordings to begin with; the pressing flaw renders them almost unlistenable."

We can attest, having borrowed a sealed Saturn original from our friend Freddie Patterson, who allowed us to slit the shrinkwrap and drop a stylus in the LP's virgin grooves. Hoping to discover the world's only sonically pristine copy for a premiere reissue, we were disappointed to hear on Side A the "horrifically ugly distortion" described by Coleman. (Someone suggested we issue it that way for its "exotic mix." We demurred.)

Fortunately, Michael D. Anderson of the Sun Ra Music Archive unearthed a tape in 2016 that proved to be the closest thing to a "pristine" version. It's got problems, sure, but compared to the Saturn pressing, it's Rudy Van Gelder-grade. For the first time, we can hear what Side A was intended to sound like. The recordings capture some incidental noise (beyond applause) from patrons, but these artifacts convey an intimate club atmosphere and are not intrusive.

(that's all re: Side A)

https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/taking-a-chance-on-chances

lol sorry to continue to geek out over this one, but there's also an unreleased track on the digital version:

A bonus track has been added:

"The Sound Mirror" (9:03, stereo)
This is a previously unissued recording. A regrettably lo-fi 14-minute version was issued as the title track on Saturn 19782 in 1978. This performance, believed to date from late 1977 or early 1978, features a tighter arrangement and greater sonic clarity.

so I guess that means they won't reissue the OG version of Sound Mirror?

i guess not!

and this thread is here for you and everyone else to geek out, as far as i'm concerned.

bit of a detour, but i just found out that Irw!n Chu$id is a right-wing crank? although unlike others on the board, i'm not an avid WFMU person, so maybe that's already well-known around here. it's just kind of jarring to be reading this dude's extensive archival commentary on Sun Ra of all people, only to go to his website and find him talking about things that i won't even bother invoking on this thread.

anyway, "lady bird" is one of my favorite tunes, by one of my favorite composers-arrangers. one of the things that has become clear to me (or rather is continually being brought to my attention in different ways) in the 4.5 years since starting this thread is that Sun Ra, as singular and "outsider" as he often is, was also of course in deep conversation with his contemporaries and the broader history of jazz music -- in ways that are actually super exciting and even helpful / instructive to me as a listener of "trad" jazz. or i guess i'm trying to say that i've had multiple versions of that epiphany, and this is just another dimension of that.