Weird to see people passing that video around on Twitter for laffs, i thought I had a pretty dark sense of humor but that shit is legit terrifying and sad
have u seen the movie Joker
― frogbs, Monday, 14 September 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
That's one way to do it:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/anti-maskers-forced-to-dig-graves-for-covid-19-victims-in-indonesia
― pomenitul, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
incredible byline on that
― rob, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link
In my big college town all the frats and sororities (shockingly) voted to not worry and to just keep partying as usual despite the recent massive uptick in cases in the 18-25 year old range. So the county health department issued an emergency order for mandatory quarantine of 30 off campus residences for two weeks, (23 of which are fraternities and sororities) and is actually affixing quarantine notices to the buildings like ye olden times.
I got a kind of hilariously worded text from the campus emergency notification system that very consciously avoided any indication that the school has any control over what happens in off-campus private residences BUT they really really want you to know this order exists.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link
PLAGUE HOUSETHOU SHALT ENTER NOT
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
I was teaching Foucault and the Panopticon to freshmen right before everything got wild in March. It was...more than a little eerie.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
Wow joygoat
― Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 07:08 (three years ago) link
re that news report - how did you guys reach that state
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 08:47 (three years ago) link
most of them probably already live there, they're used to it
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
I'm just going to be perfectly frank and say that despite my knowledge that much of what was happening in that video is the result of an education system decimated by conservatives and skewed toward the needs of a shrinking number of middle class whites, I am also more and more convinced that about half of this country is filled with the dumbest, most selfish, myopic idiot fucks of any population anywhere else on the planet. And to be cruel, I wish ill on all of them.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
I am also more and more convinced that about half of this country is filled with the dumbest, most selfish, myopic idiot fucks of any population anywhere else on the planet. And to be cruel, I wish ill on all of them.
I'm pretty much here as well. At this point it's hard to see otherwise. We can blame education, conservative news overload, fear, "economic anxiety" all to some degree, but at the base of it all there is a not insignificant percentage of this country that is just plain fucking stupid and selfish and, worse, extremely proud of being so.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link
Sounds about right! That's the "innocence" of the 1950s that these dummies want to return to, a time when everyone was at least a little bit stupid but you could still achieve a lot and make a good living despite it. (And also, I suspect, it was still a smarter stupid than where we are now, at least by standards of literacy, math, science, etc.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
I mean, there's also the obvious racial, sexual, and gendered connotations of such a return.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
It's all just infuriating!
xp JiC - Don't fall for it. People were just as dumb back then. but at an even lower scientific and technological level than today. Remember "Duck and Cover"?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
Ethics are taught. Generosity has to be cultivated. It's a social issue.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
fwiw i agree 100% table. the thing that pushes me over the edge, with that kind of ignorance, is when it starts hurting other people
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
tracer otm
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
Tracer otm. There’s nothing natural about being good.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
the dumbest, most selfish, myopic idiot fucks of any population anywhere else on the planet. And to be cruel, I wish ill on all of them.
i could have written that myself, and it's not a fun feeling.
at least the dumbfucks of the 1950s had lead in their water and gasoline to blame. the current generation has had 50+ years of relief (for the most part) from lead-related mental health issues, and can easily look up almost any fact on the internet. and in fact, they take the most valuable tool in the world, the ability to look up almost any fact on the internet, and then decided to watch joe rogan or whatever with it
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
it's a social issue, like almost anything, but i think it's a lot of other things too. without turning this into a barely-related diatribe against white evangelicals again like i always do, all i can say is that "ethics" and "generosity" are very much central to the same households that teach little timmy poopmonster to say "flu kills more people than coroanvirus" to the lamestream media cameras
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link
i should probably especially avoid the white evangelicals diatribe since we're talking about SLC, lol
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link
― sleeve, Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:36 AM (fourteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
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― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Ahhh! Damn.
https://youtu.be/s0mXq6WJSJc
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
Anyway the joke is ruined now and clearly I don't know how to embed videos.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
Short URLs don't get embedded.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0mXq6WJSJc
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link
there we go :)
― sleeve, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
Yeah, my point was that ignorant people in the '50s had lots of excuses for their ignorance, and they weren't alone, because people were just, well, more ignorant. Duck and Cover (for example) was absolutely stupid, but in its (dumb) defense, those were early days of nuclear weapons and panic and also the threat of global nuclear war was actually possible/plausible, so there was a reason to at least be afraid. Right now, though, we're 50 years down the line, and we've come so far in terms of public health, science, general knowledge, all literally free to anyone with a phone more powerful than almost every computer that has come before it, and as comprehensive as a library. And yet here were are, willingly choosing stupid again and again even when there are better choices. Like being "pro coal" in 2020.
FWIW, as I understand it Americans are actually more generous than most, in terms of charity and the like. Ethics and morality, otoh, have been corrupted and degraded by selfishness and shortsightedness, which can't be unique to Americans, but we seem to do it louder and more obnoxiously than many others despite being awash in economic stability and luxury compared to huge hunks of the world.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
Countries with a dysfunctional tax system come across as more generous on paper if charities are your sole yardstick.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
Seriously. The prominence/importance of charitable donations is a symptom of a problem. And they are also antidemocratic at scale.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
I agree. But I've got to assume it's got to be all the churches, too. People there are giving not for the tax benefit. They're giving for the right reasons, which admittedly in many cases means "stepping in where the system is not doing a good job."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
Eh, I can confirm from personal experience that people in churches are NOT typically giving for the right reasons. At least not the small town Lutheran churches I attended as a kid. Remember many post-service meetings where they discussed how to distribute charity money and they would literally name the families they wanted to help out. Funnily (read: not at all funny) enough the non church going, non-white families NEVER came up in those discussions.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:25 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
My little working theory is that there is a very high level of "background radiation" of anxiety hanging over the country resulting from (1) many years of unresolved economic inequalities highlighted by the Great Recession and now exacerbated by the new gilded age and the pandemic; and (2) unacknowledged but obvious resource scarcity from climate change.
Of course, none of the foregoing completely explains or justifies the inbred racism and selfishness in this country.
― James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
xpost Yeah, I have no idea. But I assume majority black churches (of which there are many) are giving a lot, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
Prosperity gospel, one of the greatest cons.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
we've come so far in terms of public health, science, general knowledge, all literally free to anyone with a phone more powerful than almost every computer that has come before it, and as comprehensive as a library. And yet here were are, willingly choosing stupid again and again
this is probably the most depressing part of this pandemic for me. the one hope I had about avoiding climate change related catastrophe was that one day the reality would become simply undeniable and we'd all get on the same page but if anything the more information we have the dumber we get. Florida is gonna be underwater and these idiots will still say "the climate's always changing, you idiot" as they pull the lever for Don Jr. yes this pandemic is tricky but it's not exactly complicated stuff. we know exactly what we need to do to save lives and we simply choose not to.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
Tracer, I agree about ethics, but then the issue becomes whose ethics? If we're going with Christian ethics, then we're going to come into so many disagreements within the first few minutes of discussion that the point is moot.
The despair of my outlook is underscored by the fact that I truly do believe that we are all brothers and sisters, and that so many people refuse to believe that as part of their guiding belief system is not just baffling or infuriating, but incredibly sad.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
any ethics at all would be hotttwas going to write “good” but my phone autocorrected to “hottt” - phone otm obvstarting to rethink my “humanism is bad” position as the product of a privileged age perhaps
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
The stupidest thing about these stupid idiots is they have no idea how good they have it and how much they will regret destroying systems that once allowed them to have it so good.
― Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
starting to rethink my “humanism is bad” position as the product of a privileged age perhaps
Focus on climate change and maintain your stance guilt-free.
― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
Why do British people say “r number”? It’s just “r”.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
isn't it r0?
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link
isn't she r0v31y
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
R0 and Rt depends or just R is fine if the difference doesn’t matter. “R number” is like calling x in an equation “x number”.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
we're close enough to cornwall that otherwise people assume we're pirates
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
wait I thought this was a message board for pirates
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
ilx-arrrrr
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
Yeah, it's the pirates thing
― stet, Thursday, 17 September 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/covid-19-acoustic-face-mask-music-enhancing-hungary-conductor-13105742
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 17 September 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link