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it’s been two pretty bad and very close losses, i get how it could become that heated and not be the sign of deep chemistry issues, given the stakes

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

i just don’t see the celtics crumbling like they did last year. that team waved the white flag like 2.5 games into the bucks series bcuz everyone knew the “best” player on the team was skipping town 45 seconds after the final buzzer. that just isn’t the case this year.

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link

they also had an emotionally rough series against toronto after taking the first two easily, prob feels like a pretty big hole for them

Clay, Friday, 18 September 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

I still don’t feel like the Heat are going to win, which in a way means they cannot truly win


see you can’t gotcha me on this because i’ve been posting for months about how well suited the heat are to the bubble and how they were a bad match up for the bucks. but what you’re not going to see me do is extrapolate this crazy bubble performance into an assumption that the heat’s status within the NBA hierarchy has permanently changed.

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link

the heat were a terrible match up for the bucks and still may have lost in a scenario where the bucks have a true home court. extrapolate bubble playoff results — game situations that will almost certainly never be replicated in nba history — at your own risk!

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link

NBA don't want it to happen and it probably won't, but a Heat & Nuggets finals would be great.

Heat somehow win it all, they would have had 3 different ERAs of club win the title. I guess Wade was a carry over from the Shaq club to the Big 3, but still not even the Lakers or Celtics have pulled that off (yet) in recent memory.

You got to wonder how the ceiling is for a guy like Herro. It boggles my mind how much he has improved since he started at UK to now and really not that long a period. He went from incoming freshman bench player to a one and done and getting some minutes to turning into an NBA star in like a year.

earlnash, Friday, 18 September 2020 06:42 (three years ago) link

'how high the ceiling'

earlnash, Friday, 18 September 2020 06:43 (three years ago) link

activating league agent kelly o

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link

has anyone done a side-by-side video of the clippers bench reaction to MKG shooting a 3 off the side of the backboard and the paul george’s shot in game 7?

k3vin k., Friday, 18 September 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

league is not gonna let the possibility of a lakers celtics final get snuffed out this easily

NBA don't want it to happen and it probably won't, but a Heat & Nuggets finals would be great.

Still sort of following post-Raptors...I was thinking about the same thing. From the standpoint of Maximum Possible Error (like when Sports Illustrated picked Cleveland to win the World Series in 1987 and they ended up as the worst team in baseball), would a Denver-Miami final be the worst possible pairing out of the eight remaining teams from the standpoint of the networks? I guess Denver-Toronto would have been the worst, but I thought Toronto might have a little extra ratings boost as the defending champions.

(No reflection on the two teams--Miami/Denver would be an exciting series, I'm sure.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

Bubble Stat of the Day #48!

The Heat have played 37 clutch minutes in the playoffs, per https://t.co/rPv60Gynsd (last 5 minutes, score within 5 points).

They've scored 128 points per 100 possessions in those minutes—and allowed only 92, for a net rating of *plus-36*.

— Zach Kram (@zachkram) September 18, 2020

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

celts were lost vs zone d

― johnny crunch, Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

basically

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

I'll take Celtics drama directly in my veins, thanks.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Friday, 18 September 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

To me the only bad outcome is the Lakers winning the title. Every other champ would would be very very cool

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 18 September 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

has anyone done a side-by-side video of the clippers bench reaction to MKG shooting a 3 off the side of the backboard and the paul george’s shot in game 7?


We need this

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 18 September 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

lakers and clips both falling before the finals wld be great IMHO cause theyre both mercenary super teams also IMHO celtics drama isnt anything i mean marcus smart yelling isnt news

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

celtics not being able to play against the zone for two straight series well brad got some splainin to do

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

sorry you cant claim good vibes anymore. sad day for you i know

Spottie, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

vibes are not to be claimed but to be rode --lao tzu

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

heat are taking the ball away from the celts whenever they want to and frankly outplaying them and even so they're only barely winning. i do not think this is over but yeesh they got 30 hours to figure it out.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

the heat are playing shockingly good basketball from where they were pre quar

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

we call that shogoball for short

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

would a Denver-Miami final be the worst possible pairing out of the eight remaining teams from the standpoint of the networks?

this is unquestionably true and wholly irrelevant to anyone here on ILH because we love hoops, not ratings. even if it meant a smaller network contract next time around, that only would affect salaries and profits, not the quality of play.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

is miami that small a market for bball still? compared to like philly or w/e

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

I would be personally be pretty psyched about that final and pretty excited to see how it played out! but i don't think your average person could name two (maybe even one?) player from either team

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

yeah, exactly. does Joe America know the Joker or Jimmy Butler? Probably not. them's the breaks, NBA billionaire owners!

Nhex, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

prob wld be the worst series from a general interest pov since spurs pistons

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

we call that shogoball for short

― ciderpress, Friday, September 18, 2020 2:11 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

shogob

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

wholly irrelevant to anyone here on ILH because we love hoops

I kind of get that, aimless, which is why I added "No reflection on the two teams--Miami/Denver would be an exciting series, I'm sure."

clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

def one of the better series from an interesting teams perspective

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

I just find the possibility of Miami/Denver amusing, knowing how badly the networks wanted L.A. (either) vs. the Celtics--happens all the time in baseball. I'm becoming interested in Jamal Murray--Kitchener's sort of down the road from me.

clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

if people don't know jokic or jimmy butler they probably don't know kemba walker or jayson tatum either. or anyone besides lebron

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

the "casual nba fan" is my favorite strawman

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 September 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

Idk what the nba can do to get ratings and I’m worried about it

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

don't be. poor ratings in the USA will just slow down their plans for world domination and starting expansion teams in Europe and China.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 18 September 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

they gotta get rid of blackouts, ppl under 30 don't have cable tv and will just watch bootleg streams if there's no convenient alternative

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

ppl under 30 also dont have money though so maybe the solution is to focus on middle aged ppl

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

show commercials for money

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

I know there's been talk about lower ratings and blaming it on matchups or the teams or the BLM stuff but I mean there were a lot of games being played during the day on weekdays and triple headers etc which makes it hard for a lot of people to watch

plus last year the finals I'm assuming Canadian TV doesn't show up in US ratings so it's hard to calculate, I'm sure ratings in Toronto were off the chain

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

remind me again why I should care about the nba's financials

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

adam silver needs new shoes

lag∞n, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

I have good news you don't have to

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

I guess I was just more interested in this "too political fans are leaving" storyline that's being puked out everywhere and seems kinda b.s.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 September 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

celtics not being able to play against the zone for two straight series well brad got some splainin to do


will be interesting to see how the series changes if the celtics win game 3 with the league doing 4 days in between 3 and 4 bcuz of MNF... more room for strategic changes perhaps

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

xp yeah i dont think thats a real thing

i also dont think the league is in any danger

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

i really can’t bring myself to care about the ratings at all... the players should care bcuz the cap is tied to revenue but as far as fans go, there’s gonna be 30 teams and 82 games for the foreseeable future, and i don’t think the league is going to get any less visible

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

TV ratings are a measure of popularity that again matters to the league bcuz of how they take in money, but the league remains as culturally relevant as ever imo. i don’t think there’s a problem at all beyond ppl under 35 not paying for cable.

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 September 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

any serious fallout from less sports revenue will show up in mlb well before the nba i'd think

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

Just finished first half. Hadn’t thought about Scott foster all bubble but here we are.

Spottie, Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

jordan otm about ratings, idc either

very resigned about the nuggs

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link


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