i used that same concept except i started at 50, 46, 43 ect...
― Bee OK, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link
update the voting thread, some people have that bookmarked for such an occasion.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah. Thanks!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link
Unranked as a flat 17, 5 and 3 points respectively.
I don't think I've encountered that one--does that mean 17 for first 10, 5 for middle 10, 3 for the last 10? I often needlessly complicate polls by coming up with my own scoring system (but I like that one fine if I'm reading it right).
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link
your not, 17.5 for the mail poll and 3 points for the albums part...
― Bee OK, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link
although i never got an albums ballot that was untranked, that would be strange.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link
Perhaps not the clearest paragraph there. Just "17, 17, 17, 17..." 30 over times for a 30-track ranked ballot. And 10 5's, and 5 3's for polls b and c. [XPOST. Yeah, what Bee OK said. :) Not counting on unranked albums, but I always get some surprises.]
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link
Is there any completely new material (as in not on any older reissues or comps) on the Pleased to Meet Me deluxe set that’s out on October 9? Not that I see it making much difference in the poll, but for completist’s sake...
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link
Xpost: Whoops, "30-track UNranked ballot"
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link
Okay--so we get 510 points for the song poll.
I'll be back.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link
i even read that wrong, 17 each for the main poll, i got 17.5 for some reason but 17 makes sense as it works with the math. again i increase it by 10 points for each but this works too.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
Yeah, you get a bonus 7 points (totals of 517 vs 510) if you rank your 30 tracks. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
That's an interesting point re the PTMM deluxe thingy. There are maybe a dozen demos with titles that don't ring any bells for me:
https://store.rhino.com/pleased-to-meet-me-deluxe-edition-placemat.html
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link
i'm here for it! working on my shortlist now. there's extra stuff i want to dig in from all eras, so i can't wait!
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 September 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
I don't know whether I should be makin' this list drunk or sober. May try to split it up and compare in both states.
― BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 19 September 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
i'm going to do a little of both. actually a lot of both
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 September 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
*checks news**checks calendar*
yes, this is a good time to begin an intense study of the replacements
I haven't slept since Monday night, and I'm only drinking enough tonight to get me to pass out for a few solid hours of dream-quality sleep (hopefully) before returning to the office tomorrow to finish what I couldn't finish as a zombie today. So yeah, this is the perfect headspace for knocking my ballot out tonight, thank you ILM
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link
:)
Just had a bit of a dig around. At least five of the PTMM era compositions with no prior commercial release have been bootlegged in some form. Mostly intriguing.
Time is Killing UsRun For the CountryLearn How to FailTrouble on the WayLift Her Skirt
That leaves "Awake Tonight", "Hey Shadow" and "Even If It’s Cheap" remaining wholly elusive AFAICT. Until Oct 9, I guess.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link
yeah so my mats list is shaping up pretty much the way I'd always expected it to, but
my Paul solo list is lookin a little weird, mostly due to how he formatted (or didn't) the 49:00 album, which I LOVE. any suggestions?
Only Lie Worth TellingGun ShyAs Far As I Know(49:00: Something in My Life is Missing - Terry, Who You Gonna Marry? - Visitor’s Day - Outta My System)My DaydreamGot You DownMaking Me GoWhat About MineWe May Be the OnesNo Place for YouBest Thing That Never HappenedLove You in the FallMy DadLookin’ Up in HeavenWorld Class Fad
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
if this poll is worth it’s salt it’ll go ahead and cancel two results in bc its too drunk to continuealso hells yes I will be doing a ballothttps://www-rollingstone-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/THeReplacements-1.jpg?resize=1800,1200&w=1800
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link
^ so great pic! also never seen the OG post pic. wow tommy so smol! I mean knew he was a smol but still
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 19 September 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link
yeah, that is unbelievable. i knew he was young when they started, but holy shit
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 September 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link
its good that they were easy on the eyeshttps://alloverthesilence.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/tumblr_mztp6iftrc1qzezj5o3_1280.jpg
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link
https://www.twintone.com/mats-scrapbook/ttpromo/mats8504.jpeg
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link
xxpost: Maybe 49:00 could be one track? Does a definitive list of distinct songs even exist?
Maybe one track with notes, if you like.
Might be worth noting preferred versions on ballots too, come to think of it. Not least for things like the Dead Man's Pop stuff. I'll combine votes in the final tally, but am happy to keep track of differing versions where a distinction is made.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link
another one of vv baby Tommyhttps://images.publicradio.org/content/2014/09/09/20140909_the-replacements_33.jpg
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:38 (three years ago) link
that's not tommy, that's tina weymouth's daughter
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link
If anyone has or can link to a good post-PTMM list of their work it’d be appreciated.
*Eno voice* - “Their third record sold adequately, but everyone who heard it unfortunately became aware of Kiss.”
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:05 (three years ago) link
i don't even know - what are the early period consensus favorites? watching something like this, from 1981, the whole show is brilliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHBE7o_WWsI
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link
xxpost well i learned something today
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link
if this poll is worth it’s salt it’ll go ahead and cancel two results in bc its too drunk to continue
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 19 September 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link
<3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
I listened to Tim last night and realized most if not all of it will be on my ballot
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
Same. And weirdly, I could only come up with one Don't Tell A Soul song that I would definitely put on my ballot, and three from All Shook Down...but I feel like I prefer DTAS as an album. Which doesn't make any sense. I have some relistening to do.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
yep
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
I feel obligated to participate in this one but I dont' really wanna.
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 September 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
you w-w-w-w-on't?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
I went through their discography on Wikipedia and jotted down the 16 easy picks for me. So I'll push my ballot to 20 songs--I don't like to fill out lists with songs I like but don't love.
Does a 20-song ballot get 340 points then?
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 September 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
just picked 16 songs from the big three albums, gotta reacquaint with the rest.
pretty positive I already know what my number one is, though
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 19 September 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
Anyone considering Dead Man's Pop instead of Don't Tell a Soul? (assuming either would have made your top 5)
― birdistheword, Saturday, 19 September 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
Haven't but certainly would pick the one over the other.
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 September 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
Does a 20-song ballot get 340 points then?An unranked one does, yes. A ranked ballot gets significantly more as 21-30 get the tiniest weightings.A few polls back I toyed with giving 'shorter' unranked ballots approximately the same number of total points as a ranked one of the same length, but it meant deciding on a different value per entry for each ballot length, and ever longer explanations. Given that folks overwhelmingly (i) opt for a ranked ballot and (ii) torture themselves for ages over what to leave out, it felt like I was thinking too hard about a 'problem' that barely seems to arise. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 19 September 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link
Okay--I'll add up what #1-20 would get on a full ballot and work something out (I generally like to rank the top five songs and then cluster the rest in groups).
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 September 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link
sorry ma, forgot to take out the trash kind of rules! it's a little inconsistent, but kick your door down, customer, takin' a ride, shutup...
i am not a replacements live footage connoisseur, but i thought this video was great too:
there's a second set, too
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 September 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
Seeing as I didn't explain it very well up top in English, the proposed scoring in is now in the spreadsheet in the second post. Just to the right of the tracks list. And I changed the side-project weights such that they follow the same basic pattern as the main tracks poll.
Clemenza: just confirming, the total points in a ranked list of twenty is 452, so take that as your total if you want go with bespoke weightings.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 20 September 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link
Sent mine in earlier--20 songs, 452 points.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 September 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link
Some of the Sorry Ma tracks that stick with longest after listening are ones that depart a little from the, er, formula. "Kick Your Door Down", "Johnny's Gonna Die", "Otto", etc. And "Go" on Stink... which is kinda amazing. The wimpy tracks, probably, LOL.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 20 September 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link
Oh, *three* ballots in already, in fact. Nice. Wasn't going to bother checking that mailbox for a few days yet.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 20 September 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link
Go" on Stink... which is kinda amazing.
so far, "go" has been my biggest "discovery" of this poll, it is fantastic.
also, i've always thought of pleased to meet me as a step down from tim and let it be, but i'm really loving it this morning. "the ledge" sounds like a guest spot from kurt cobain, at times
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
So should we now stop posting and go into deep hibernation cover on the incognito tip until the rollout?
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link
ballot sent!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 5 October 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
i didn't submit a solo/side projects ballot 'cause i couldn't come up with anywhere near 20 of those, but for anyone who hasn't voted yet and is still contemplating, can i lobby for this fantastic tune westerberg co-wrote and recorded with the leatherwoods:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mebxXIPPMs
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 5 October 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link
I didn’t submit that part either so that is actually going to be one of the more interesting aspects of the roll-out.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
I should probably mention that if I haven't acknowledged receipt of your ballot over the last two weeks something has possibly gone awry. Typically within 8 hours or so. (Though I always say this and no irregularities ever seem to emerge, so...)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 5 October 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
Up to 34 voters now.
And almost as many solo/other tracks as Replacements tracks cited, from a significantly smaller pool of participants. Might attempt a *complete* playlist of every solo/other track raised seeing as quite a few will surely miss the formal rollout.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 5 October 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link
Intel suggests that it's well into Monday east of the international dateline. So, if those requesting a little more time can submit ballots in the next 18 hours or so that would be immensely pleasing.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 5 October 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
nag3, it's your man on the inside, reporting in. central time is 10:19am, i repeat, CST is one zero one nine, alpha mike
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 5 October 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
I will!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 October 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
just voted
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 October 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
I bought a headache.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
LOL @ Karl Malone.
Another 12-ish hours...
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 5 October 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
I have to say that doing this poll was kind of a nice distraction. The default Replacements vibe of "everything sucks, but oh well" is timely.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link
OTM
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
agree
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
I think voters have been overwhelmingly in the USA for this poll. A bit more so than my previous poll collating experiences, anyway. So I'll think I'll try first-thing-the-morning (my time, Melbourne, AEDT) for this rollout. I'll try to spread it out bit more too and hopefully place it around noon to early evening for most of the Americas.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link
Starting with albums perhaps...17 hours from now.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link
So, yeah, obviously get ballots in soon if you intend to submit one. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link
Also: I've been totes digging that Leatherwoods track. Thanks ffc!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link
fcc, even.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
Just submitted!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link
I'll see about a tracks-only ballot shortly...this ended up not being a good time to binge-listen for me.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
ffs
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
'Nag!3' - my bad - I just realized in my original ballot, I accidentally pasted a 'draft' from another text file. What I just sent you is my preferred 'ranked' 'Category One' list. If it's too late, and 'Never Mind' gets an extra vote skew - 'Never Mind' I guess!
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
lol this deadline feels v punk rock now
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link
https://s3.amazonaws.com/Clinton_Swag/JhWEZOsBUT/swag.png
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link
I've been totes digging that Leatherwoods track
glad you like. that whole leatherwoods album -- they only made one -- is really good!
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 05:25 (three years ago) link
works for me, kinda like a rolling pin.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link
SENT!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link
Okay, I'll close this thing now to finalise the albums and solo/other stats. I'll begin the rollout with those, hopefully in the morning (my time), perhaps 10 hours from now.
Though if anyone sneaks in a last minute submission for the main tracks poll while I sleep I'm hardly going to exclude it from the tally. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link
wait for me!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link
sent!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link
*thumbs up*
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link
I would think you'd get a lot of voters in that one--at least 40.― clemenza, Friday, September 18, 2020
Pretty close, it turns out: 38
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:59 (three years ago) link
XXXPOST:If it's too late, and 'Never Mind' gets an extra vote skew - 'Never Mind' I guess!
I meant to mention that. I removed the duplicate at the time and intended ask whether you wanted to substitute something else in. Sorry!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link
Anything you want, I’ll Nag! Nag! Nag!
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
38 votes, nice! i'm excited for all of this.
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
re: albums you know it's not that I think PTMM is exponentially greater than any of the records from the classic run. I just think for really the only time in Paul's career solo or otherwise, they found a perfect producer where the whole ends up being more than the sum of the parts.
― campreverb, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Ha, that is definitely clear from listening to all their albums back to back. They were recorded and mixed badly in many different ways! Although I don't mind the murk on Let It Be, it suits the album.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link
When I listened on LPs the messed up recording could bother me a bit, but now with streaming/remastering/listening through earbuds there is kind of a flattening effect.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
Hell-o-o?
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
nag3, it's your man on the inside, reporting in. central time is 2:28pm, i repeat, CST is four teen two eight, charlie mike
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
Haha. Okay, I think I'm ready....
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
wow, almost exactly 10 hours later!!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
tbh, such punctuality seems at odds with the spirit of the replacements, but still, i'm here for it
I hate ILoveMusic, it's got too many POLLS - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS - RESULTS
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link