ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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it's gone long past the stage where the emperor even wears a string vest

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I'm sure I had read marina Hyde bits quite a few times over several years not knowing or guessing they were considered to be impressive in any way. They seem to be mostly 'well written' which might be enough to warrant praise compared to something like that incoherent Hadley Freeman thing someone posted on the guardian thread today (?) that read like a group office email from a coworker experiencing issues.

They seem to be mostly 'well written'

I would be interested in your definition of well written because on a sentence by sentence level Marina Hyde is absolutely terrible. There is usually one half-decent joke in each of her columns but that isn't enough to justify the slavering blue tick adoration she receives.

I might be missing some *history* but Hyde has definitely been worth reading, recently.

The Marina Hyde article is trying so hard to be funny, she can't settle on making a joke, she has to add a bunch of (middle aged / middle class) pop culture references and OTT adjectives, then do the same joke again just in case you didn't get it the first time. I was wondering why these blue ticks like it so much, but it fits their privileged POV and has references they will get immediately, so no mystery there I guess.

She’s a very useful idiot. The jokes are an acceptable valve for very tame railing against the status quo which does nothing whatsoever to change it.

I have smiled at a Marina Hyde article before, I'd say there are worse generators of "content" in the employ of national newspapers.

Go off lad

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/19/owen-jones-a-lot-of-people-in-the-parliamentary-labour-party-are-horrible

The parliamentary Labour party meetings were just brutal and gruesome. A lot of those people in the parliamentary Labour party – I’m just going to say it – are jumped-up thugs. Vicious, horrible people. They would sanctimoniously stand up and talk about the authoritarianism of Corbynism as they screeched like disturbed teenagers, spraying spittle at anyone with the temerity to support the elected leadership of the party of which they were members. I really don’t know what they are driven by.

"I would be interested in your definition of well written"

I only meant that they make grammatical sense and have at least some sense of argumentative or expositive development where things have a sequential meaning: Basic stuff you'd hope an undergrad could master by the second year but seemingly beyond a good deal of published writing I see in places where you would presume they could employ competent writers.

Do we have any ideas on when London (or all of the country?) will be under a lockdown again?

Health secretary overarching message this morning: if there’s another national lockdown the public will only have themselves to blame #Covid19UK

— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) September 20, 2020

Reports are saying restrictions will tighten further this week in household mixing but if pubs are not fully closed? Yes, if it sounds incoherent..

That's funny, deranged dude shouting at a couple of pigs near the bus stop yesterday said they were going to close the pubs. Also suggsted we wake up iirc.

I think they'll cave on the pubs shortly.

It would be madness not to close the pubs but looking at what they’ve done in Newcastle a part of me wouldn’t be surprised if it were lockdown 2 brought to you by Wetherspoon

In March all the talk was of “a series of phased lockdowns” and the point that got repeated over and over was that the most important thing was to time the lockdowns and relaxations so that a second spike didn’t coincide with flu season too much, so I’m sort of boggling that we’re now at that point and it’s all this vague we might fuck around and try another lockdown, see how we feel on the day eh. You’ve had six months you cunts!

Someone was saying that this spike correlated with the august bank holiday. So is it as bad in Scotland where the bank holiday was at the start of the month?

It would be madness not to close the pubs but looking at what they’ve done in Newcastle a part of me wouldn’t be surprised if it were lockdown 2 brought to you by Wetherspoon

― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2020 11:10 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

national lock-in

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that onion is always in her hankie

all that is missing that *emotive* John Legend track that almost ruined that Selma movie!

A tough few months for many to begin from today.

Today (20 Sept) is the last day of the eviction ban.

We've put together a quick guide explaining what the current notice periods are, and where the law stands until March 2021.https://t.co/iMHSqolZyA pic.twitter.com/UVjuYuhCuy

— Southampton SolFed (@sotonsolfed) September 20, 2020

Absolutely fucking miserable

🚨 EXCLUSIVE @repubblica 🚨
According to a statement and local sources, Boris Johnson recently travelled to Perugia, in Italy, apparently on the Sept 12-13th weekend.
No 10 dismisses it: “That’s wrong”.
My story with @irvine76 https://t.co/gtdLWIY0YY

— Antonello Guerrera (@antoguerrera) September 20, 2020

Interesting. My usual instinct is “lol nothing will happen”, but all the papers have been unsubtly aligning against him for a while.

I mean it wasn’t illegal (and appears to have a single dodgy eyewitness) so I’m with your first instinct. But this guy, ffs

11am Whitty presser tomorrow, that’s unusual

Resigning

Vallance as well so I guess they're delivering bad news the PM doesn't want to be associated with.

Assuming he’s in the country

Only on the 3rd time of asking did Schapps say he didn't know where Boris was having avoided the question the first two times...

And then made a point of saying Italy is in a travel corridor anyway.

You’re only as cavalier with public money as our current Chancellor if you don’t know the value of it.

Instead, I would take a responsible approach - so that public money was targeted at protecting jobs, jobs, jobs. https://t.co/MsOIhK0PqU

— Anneliese Dodds (@AnnelieseDodds) September 21, 2020

just a little taster of the transformative politics we can look forward to in the next manifesto

lol at matt dc posting a couple of days ago that we basically never see dodds and now... this

happy if she goes away again now

just need Rachel Reeves to come out and repeat her 2013 line that Labour need to be tougher on benefits cuts than the Tories and its almost a complete replica of Miliband Labour, but with a more conservative leader.

waiting for Starmer to say he feels a huge swell of pride when he sees a white van with a England flag on it.

Someone remind me how Labour did in 2015, because these fools seem to have forgotten.

Obligatory post about “how does he have a job ffs”

“Today we have ended the franchise system after a quarter of a century” says @grantshapps. So most risk of running railway will henceforth be with the government. In normal times, this would be a huge moment. John Major’s nationalisation is dead

— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 21, 2020

if most of the risk is with the government could you just clarify for me where most of the profits will go Pesto?

most competent manager is a shit strategy because you don't even need to be competent to retain credibility with the electorate, light blue Labour will always lose competence competitions against Tories with shit actors like Dodds and Starmzy's dismal angry Roy Cropper routine.

Starmer Labour have really picked a great time for attacking the govt on spending, like when there is going to be record high unemployment. Great fucking strategy lads.

garbage slogans, garbage people, garbage politics and jobs jobs jobs!

if most of the risk is with the government could you just clarify for me where most of the profits will go Pesto?

There won't be any profits for a long while and one of the reasons it's dead is that it isn't an attractive enough investment for anyone to pour money into. I'm sure it'll be spun as a political paradigm shift but it's basically a bailout of rail firm and there's no guarantee they won't quietly reprivatise them when it becomes commercially feasible. Private companies are still operating the trains and there'll still be a flow of public money to them.

Also Peston apparently doesn't know the difference between nationalisation and privatisation.

Literally the only thing that is popular about the government right now (other than the racism) is the fact they've been spraying cash everywhere. Labour is clearly going to oppose the end of furlough so they'll have to spend precious airtime explaining the supposed differences between good public spending and bad public spending, at which point audiences will switch off and stop listening.

"Also Peston apparently doesn't know the difference between nationalisation and privatisation."

This is embarrassing.

I've finally looked up who 'Roy Cropper' is.

I can see a slight resemblance to KS. But CORONATION STREET has 7 million viewers per episode which is only about 15% of the UK population. Not sure everyone out there is going to get this supposedly obvious attack line.

in recent YouGov poll 98.9% of respondents knew who Roy Cropper was but said who the "fuck is this cunt" when shown a pic of Sir Kieth throttling a donkey

Dozens of Tory MPs set to refuse unconscious bias training

Starmzy would make all his racist MP's complete the training. #NewLeadership

in recent YouGov poll 98.9% of respondents knew who Roy Cropper was but said who the "fuck is this cunt" when shown a pic of Sir Kieth throttling a donkey

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