ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

most competent manager is a shit strategy because you don't even need to be competent to retain credibility with the electorate, light blue Labour will always lose competence competitions against Tories with shit actors like Dodds and Starmzy's dismal angry Roy Cropper routine.

Starmer Labour have really picked a great time for attacking the govt on spending, like when there is going to be record high unemployment. Great fucking strategy lads.

garbage slogans, garbage people, garbage politics and jobs jobs jobs!

if most of the risk is with the government could you just clarify for me where most of the profits will go Pesto?

There won't be any profits for a long while and one of the reasons it's dead is that it isn't an attractive enough investment for anyone to pour money into. I'm sure it'll be spun as a political paradigm shift but it's basically a bailout of rail firm and there's no guarantee they won't quietly reprivatise them when it becomes commercially feasible. Private companies are still operating the trains and there'll still be a flow of public money to them.

Also Peston apparently doesn't know the difference between nationalisation and privatisation.

Literally the only thing that is popular about the government right now (other than the racism) is the fact they've been spraying cash everywhere. Labour is clearly going to oppose the end of furlough so they'll have to spend precious airtime explaining the supposed differences between good public spending and bad public spending, at which point audiences will switch off and stop listening.

"Also Peston apparently doesn't know the difference between nationalisation and privatisation."

This is embarrassing.

I've finally looked up who 'Roy Cropper' is.

I can see a slight resemblance to KS. But CORONATION STREET has 7 million viewers per episode which is only about 15% of the UK population. Not sure everyone out there is going to get this supposedly obvious attack line.

in recent YouGov poll 98.9% of respondents knew who Roy Cropper was but said who the "fuck is this cunt" when shown a pic of Sir Kieth throttling a donkey

Dozens of Tory MPs set to refuse unconscious bias training

Starmzy would make all his racist MP's complete the training. #NewLeadership

in recent YouGov poll 98.9% of respondents knew who Roy Cropper was but said who the "fuck is this cunt" when shown a pic of Sir Kieth throttling a donkey

:D

Science brief from Downing St with bad numbers and no policy change.

Presumably the PM hasn't got a nanny and was busy feeding the wean.

Potential for doubling of cases every week meaning we could be looking at 50k new cases per day by mid October.

That's a £500 lump sum. If you're expected to self-isolate for two weeks, that's £7.14 an hour based on a 35 hour week. The National Minimum Wage is £8.72 an hour. https://t.co/Pch1FVwZiN

— ACABology (@cheersdeclarer) September 19, 2020

Prof Whitty says the mortality rate will be slightly reduced this autumn and winter because treatment is better now - but there will still be many deaths.

He also talks about the decisions that ministers will have to take - balancing the impact on the economy with the danger of the virus.

"If we do too little, this virus will go out of control," he said.

But if we go too far the other way we can cause damage to the economy, he says, which will have its own long-term health effects.

Re: the last bit, it gets trotted out a lot but no one ever says what health effects these will be, and whether they would be worse than tens of thousands of excess deaths per year (and tens of thousands more with long-term debilitating after-effects).

Basically people that can't afford to miss work and have the virus will go. They might be fined but they won't pay it (because they can't) and will also be blamed for the increase in deaths xp

Even if they did take it upon themselves to pay proper sick pay it still wouldn't solve the problem of apparently widespread asymptomatic transmission.

my word, they've caught up with where a bunch of meme twitter accounts were a week ago https://t.co/4VA2AW345I

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) September 21, 2020

“Endless treasury schemes and failed PPE contracts have cost hard-pressed taxpayers billions, but alternative expenditure is not the answer." 💬

Our response the shadow chancellor's Labour Party conference speech. 👇https://t.co/Cx7CxCTLiH

— TaxPayers' Alliance (@the_tpa) September 21, 2020

critical support for Dodds from the right wing think tank that would have the unemployed, pensioners and the disabled liquidated

Lads I don't think tax cuts and deregulation are going to get you out of a recession caused by a highly contagious killer virus.

it gets trotted out a lot but no one ever says what health effects these will be, and whether they would be worse than tens of thousands of excess deaths per year (and tens of thousands more with long-term debilitating after-effects).

DC is correct. The claim that economic downturn is equivalent to pandemic in terms of mass death and profound health damage is false. It shouldn't be allowed.

PS: surprised no one on here has yet mentioned the officially denied claim that the foul current UK PM took a secret trip to Italy.

Lol fuck this party

“We are a party of equality, we take it seriously”

Labour MP Wes Streeting wants “to look what we can do better as a party” on the rights of trans people and transphobia#PoliticsLive https://t.co/fZS7MwXSF2 pic.twitter.com/eRmcJz03Xw

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) September 21, 2020

Streeting is the kind of MP they invite on all the time because they know he'll make a cunt of himself and the party that lets him do it

PS: surprised no one on here has yet mentioned the officially denied claim that the foul current UK PM took a secret trip to Italy.

The timeline printed in the Italian press is amusing. The outward leg coincides with the time he was addressing an emergency meeting on the EU bill 'from no.10' but his internet kept going down so Michael Fabricant sang Rule Britannia to fill the time. On the return leg, the flight was delayed and a bunch of his evening engagements were cancelled. If his spokespeople are lying, they've been lying since the 17th.

I don't like talking about the disgusting PM in detail but - that particular meeting is, surely, the one about which people here on ILX were speculating about a resignation announcement?

If so, odd that it was dramatically pre-announced when the scumbag PM was secretly abroad.

Loving the sight of Perguia airport backtracking, un-backtracking, now contradicting itself

DC is correct. The claim that economic downturn is equivalent to pandemic in terms of mass death and profound health damage is false. It shouldn't be allowed.

If the response is, as I expect, more severe and prolonged austerity, then there will be huge casualties.

Other than the fact that the PM shouldn't be heading off for a nice weekend away during a crisis I don't get what rules are supposed to have been broken that would justify lying about the whole thing? Italy isn't on the quarantine list, this isn't Barnard Castle all over again. So it's either a dodgy meeting or having his baby baptised as a Catholic during a particularly tricky period re: Northern Ireland.

maybe he was hired for another tennis match at short notice

I think it is 1) it plays nice if the answer to the Where’s Boris clamour from the right is “Lebedev’s villa in Italy” and 2) they have apparently held off making lockdown choices because No Cobra/No Boris. If lockdown was delayed, at a cost of lives, so himself could swan to Italy ...

President of #Perugia airport tells me #BorisJohnson ‘definitely’ did not come through here this month. Says original press release confused him with Tony Blair, who did #perugiagate

— Nick Squires (@NickSquires1) September 21, 2020

Oh boy, an emerging situation!

Wait a minute...there's no airport in Perugia!

his internet kept going down so Michael Fabricant sang Rule Britannia to fill the time

i somehow missed this profoundly cursed detail in the reports

this fucking country

In further 'nothing matters' news:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54228079

That’s the spirit, Matt, knew this thread would break you one day.

'confused him with Tony Blair'

Tony Blair, who did #perugiagate

Just another in the long list of his crimes.

The Chernukhin thing is of negligible interest imo but it's always nice to see Sul3yman K3rim0v in the news as it reminds me of the time he gave his mistress a couple of million quid to start a business selling $10k velour tracksuits.

meanwhile that pelugia christening in full:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdcqrbS1Xh8

I guess Zap Brannigan wasn't enough business on his own

zapp brannigan, the michael fabricant of the 30th century

i'm sorry, the 31st century

either way it seems certain that fabricant believes, as does brannigan, that the most erotic part of a woman is the boobies

This didn’t really work did it

It’s reported that Sunak is arguing against new lockdown measures. Maybe a little humility and hindsight may be warranted as there is an increasing suspicion that his Eat Out to Help Out scheme may well have contributed to Eat Out to Help Out to Spread Out the infection.

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) September 21, 2020

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/21/coronavirus-government-liberties-tories-police-powers-laws

Maybe take a trip and listen to the racists to tell you how much they love all this too and chill.

*barf*

xpost

who could possibly have foreseen &c &c xxp

Meanwhile in Italy

We’re at #Perugia airport, where its President tells us Boris Johnson has not recently travelled through. He’s checked passenger registry. Says airport worker meant to say Tony Blair, not Johnson, arrived on 13th Sept; left 14th. Only UK flights on 11th was Ryanair. None on 12th.

— Mark Lowen (@marklowen) September 21, 2020

Now... #Perugia airport has checked 12th Sept arrivals list again and there was indeed a flight from Farnborough that landed here. It had one passenger on board. Airport checking that person’s identity as we speak...

— Mark Lowen (@marklowen) September 21, 2020

gdpr, how does it work