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So I'll be the jerk: what would you cut from SoTT? For me, a few easy choices: "It", "Hot Thing" and "U Got the Look" (I know, but it grates).

― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, September 27, 2020 9:33 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

can't believe this is easy for you, especially "hot thing"

i'm the only person in the world whose favorite song on sott is "it" though

my hot take (which probably isn't so hot) is that the og "strange relationship" with wendy and lisa >>> album version, and that's probably the only adjustment i'd make to sott, which is otherwise perfectly pared down. i actually think it works really well as a sequence, but i'm not sure how much that's due to the movie, which works very hard to create a visual universe where these sounds can coexist (the melted art-deco city edifices and neon signs in the stage setup, modeled after the guys and dolls backdrop on the album cover)

well i also wish "all my dreams" were on an official prince album, but sott is not that one. maybe it would've happened had prince and wendy and lisa actually picked up roadhouse garden again in the late '90s/early '00s

africa
cap'n crunch
norma jean
sex and cheeeriooos

I kind of get the hate for It bc it's so extreme, but it's one of my favorites. Such outrageous ideas--the flurries of orchestra hits, the way the vocals are layers of robotic monotone and unhinged squealing...

If I had to kick anything from SOTT it would be Play in the Sunshine and/or *ducks* Housequake. I haven't absorbed the new tracks enough to pick replacement tracks

who hates "all my dreams," and what is their address, i am gonna drive by their house and stick out my tongue at them

my desire for a cleaned-up "dance with the devil" means i want a batman box next, which i assume no one in the prince estate or warner bros. is considering lol

Who knows! It had hits!

I heard the next expansion is D&P

lol ugh

i listened to my old bootleg version of "the ball" today and boy it sounds like shit, thank god for this set

“Hot Thing” and “It” are phenomenal and anyone who hates them probably hasn’t, you know, ever had that proper, atom-crushing good sex.

hahaha the old school "I am an awesome sex haver" music brag always a good one

Had never occurred to me until listening to this set that “La, La, La, He, He, Hee" is proto-“Doghouse”

i have never had sex and do not believe it is real

Ain’t I awesome?!

"Hot Thing" is in my SOTT Top 5, so funky, that "when you smile" part, I love it

We should poll SOTT for the song we'd leave out.

Me? It's "It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night"

I don't worship "Adore" like my fellow Prince-ologists, but it's a jam.

Yeah, ditch "It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night."

Thirded.

Thirded.

And fourthed, I guess!

I'd cut "It" and "Starfish and Coffee." And I'd put "Adore" before "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" and end the album with "The Cross."

"The Cross" would be a good closer.

I usually skip “The Cross” and “I Could Never...”

What?!? Why you wanna treat SotT so bad, CJV?

I'll always ditch 'Play in the Sunshine'. 'Beautiful Night' is one of my most-listened SotT tracks.

“hot thing” was always the weak link for me, sorry. everything else is the bomb. in the context of an epic double album closer “it’s gonna be a beautiful night” works really well... but putting “adore” on right after is kinda too much, it needs something less completely amazing and perfect to end on lol, like a 2 minute ditty with just prince and an electric guitar.

I heard the next expansion is D&P

― and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:56 AM (three hours ago)

lol ugh

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:57 AM

Definitely a good commercial idea to start spreading the reissues away from the 1980s, so that the decade doesn't get tapped out straight away. And D&P has the hook of being the first album by a new band, was loaded with big international hits*, & has loads of stuff shelf-ready to fill up an expanded edition before they even go digging in the vault. The Gett Off and Cream singles were each getting on for an hour long!


* he toured Australia for the first time on this album, which probably contributed to this, but he basically seemed to be in the charts constantly from Batman through 1994 - Come went to #2!

I can hear in "Crucial" the first ominous, grueling stirrings of the turgid power balladry of the early '90s

lol

Plz let there not be a disc dedicated to gett off and dream remixes. Please.

However plz let there be a disc including daddy pop and live 4 love without Tony m. Plz. I like outtakes schoolyard and grandcprogeession too.

Plz also not let the set include a DVD of the gett off bonus videos.

*cream

Now that they've gone huge with sott u hope they dont go so big on every release

The 7-Plated Gold CD Experience

The drumapella version of Big Tall Wall is real good

"It" would be a phenomenal B side but it's tiresome in the middle of an album. Likewise I love "Beautiful Night" but it's not needed here. But "Starfish and Coffee" is one of the core (the heart) tracks defining SotT for me.

Plz let there not be a disc dedicated to gett off and dream remixes. Please.

Most of it's on the box - for my compiled version I nicked the full-length Feel U Up ("Long Stroke") from the Partyman single, the original Good Love from Bright Lights, Big City OST, Rockhard In A Funky Place from The Black Album, and used the full-length ("Extended," but actually the original) Shockadelica.

The drumapella version of Big Tall Wall is real good

― change display name (Jordan), Monday, September 28, 2020 2:02 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wanted to confirm i came around to this version of "big tall wall." this one was also probably the most dramatic difference wrt the bootleg version i've been familiar with for years sounding like total garbage

just dropping in to say "Housequake" is the platonic ideal of all music

Now that they've gone huge with sott u hope they dont go so big on every release

"Scarlet Pussy" is also a Camille tune, no? Or at least it has the voice. IMO it's the best among the chipmunk songs, alongside "If I Was Your Girlfriend ".

I definitely wish there were smaller and cheaper editions that did what the two-disc Purple Rain pack did: only include the remastered album and previously unreleased songs, not live shows and 7" versions and alternate takes, as I don't really care about those, and it sucks to pay 150 euros just to get the three discs of unreleased songs (plus the couple of 12" mixes that weren't available on CD before).

― Tuomas, Monday, September

I can do without a whole CD of single mixes.

Love left loveright was good IIRC.
Totally forgot about violet the organ grinder.

I like d&p overall tbh so would be interested to see what they do with its esp as it's an album that fans have some issues with.

I did get the sott SDE bit tempted just to burn the discs and sell it. I hate huge packages for albums like this, and the book just seems massively padded out, or at least not that essential to me.

"Scarlet Pussy" is also a Camille tune, no?

As Matthew says, it's by Camille, but was recorded more than a year after the Camille album was cancelled.

Any idea why 1999 and SOTT got expanded vinyl versions of the box sets but Purple Rain didn't? Or did I just miss that?

I think pr was overseen by prince but the last two were estate managed releases.

I'm sure they will do a humongous pr deluxe edition in a few years.

I really like Wally. It might be a tad overblown but you can hear a certain nakedness in that vocal. It's a bit like a song in a musical after a character has had a breakup.

I can do without a whole CD of single mixes.
All but a few aren't even new mixes, just worthless "edits" made for top 40 radio. Only "Little Red Corvette" and "Kiss" have "single versions" deserving of inclusion in these sets because it's the only way to get the whole song complete without the respective crossfade or segue edit.

Even better, I wish they'd release a complete B-sides and 12" mix collection and have them all in one place rather than separated out like this. It would be much more listenable and consumer-friendly. They did an incomplete, half-assed job of both before, but at least it shows they're open to the idea.