Jon, in my hood, when you're walking outside walking with a family member, it seems okay to have a mask at hand for close-quarter situations. As Lily Dale says.
On my local bike trail, I can see someone coming from a hundred yards/meters away. Is it endangering them if I wait to slip the mask on until we're closer, but not yet in breathing range?
Or is your position that as soon as I walk out the door I should be masked until I get home?
― zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
I saw a guy at the grocery store with a face shield instead of a face mask, but it was pulled up at such an angle that it was more of a really long visor and no part of his mouth or nose was actually obstructed. Disappointed that Sprouts didn't kick him out but oh well.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
only 1 of the 16 was an instance of dicknose
whoever coined 'dicknose' deserves a medal
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
Is that an ILX original?
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
i dislike it because i always hear it in my head to the tune of "Tip Drill" aka "E.I." by Nelly.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
i do see people do the thing where they pull it up when they are approaching someone else, but it's usually not until they and I are within like 10 feet of each other which seems a little late to me. idk.
in any case, none of today's hang-around-neckers were in this group, it just stayed around their neck when passing.
especially interesting to me is the het couple, one masked one not. no instances of that today but it's been fairly common. usually the dude unmasked.
― and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link
usually the dude unmasked.
my experience, too
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link
I'm that dude who pulls the mask up at 10-20 feet away.
― DJI, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
First relevant use of the term DN on ILX seems to have been three weeks ago on the Rational/Irrational COVID-19 thread by Jaq. There are earlier unrelated posts though.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
Anti-mask protest underway near my place now that Montreal is back in semi-lockdown. How I love hearing these fuckwits yell 'Libââârtéeeeee' at the top of their lungs.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
from what i've been reading, you aren't that likely to become infected/sick if you merely walk by someone fast who is unmasked, unless they are infected AND happen to sneeze or cough heavily at or around the time you go by. You may not inhale enough of a viral load to actually become infected. nothing's 100%, but if you have one interaction with someone who walks by you unmasked for ten seconds, you're probably not going to get it even if they are infected. that said, because you never know how many people you're going to be around and for how long, I wear mine every time I leave the house anyway cos I like to reduce risk closer to zero, and that also means turning tail if I see someone unmasked coming over to me, nose-hairs dangling
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
xpost 25% will start coughing midway through.
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
from what i've been reading, you aren't that likely to become infected/sick if you merely walk by someone fast who is unmasked, unless they are infected AND happen to sneeze or cough heavily at or around the time you go by.
This is what I've read as well. When I'm out for a run, I keep a 2m distance and circumvent passersby as needed. Besides, house parties appear to be the #1 cause of infection here, by a significant margin.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link
btw u ded:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/30/neanderthal-genes-increase-risk-of-serious-covid-19-study-claims
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link
this is amazing news,I will be a legend in the metal scene as an active dead rocker
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link
Outdoors, 10 feet away from each... I have my doubts that this constitutes risky behavior.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
totally negligible risk. it's kind of a dick move because it might make other people feel unsafe because you look like a person who doesn't take safety seriously. but just in an objective sense and assuming you give everyone a wide berth, you're not actually putting anyone in danger.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
I had to be in a large medical facility Tuesday and sat glaring at the one douchey guy with his dicknose hanging out as he sat next to a properly masked pregnant person. Mask-policing nurse gave him hell eventually.― Jaq, Thursday, September 3, 2020Dicknose is definitely a national movement― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, September 3, 2020
Dicknose is definitely a national movement― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, September 3, 2020
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
Yup
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
Dicknose predates ilx
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
dicknosehastaken its tollon me
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link
DicknoseWhere my Rosemary grows
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link
https://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/teen-wolf-stiles-feat-e1440350219913.png
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
Bus stop, wet dayShe's there, I sayPlease share my umbrellaBus stops, bus goesShe stays, dicknoseUnder my umbrella
― zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
There dick nose....There dick nose again....
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link
Teeny weenyShriveled littleDick nose man
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link
cause every girl's crazy 'bout a
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link
Let's dick noseyLet's dick nuts
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A12-KN5UijA
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
Chestnuts roasting on an open fireJack Frost nipping at dick nose
― zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link
BREAKING: A Republican Member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives has tested positive for COVID-19 and now every single one of us who’s been here for Session has to be tested! More than half of the Republicans on the Floor refuse to wear masks!— Brian Sims (@BrianSimsPA) October 1, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
Truly he is the bigliest misinformer:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-misinformation.html
― pomenitul, Thursday, 1 October 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
A licky boom boom down
― zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
Amazon says more than 19,000 workers got Covid-19 — 😬 https://t.co/lvjE3EynbM— Jay Yarow (@jyarow) October 1, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 October 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link
amazon sucks, but that's 1.4%, which is less than the rate in the US population (2.4%).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 October 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
SARS-CoV-2 viral load peaks prior to symptom onset: a systematic review and individual-pooled analysis of coronavirus viral load from 66 studies
https://i.imgur.com/eommGJx.png
Explains a great deal about how difficult this has been to eradicate.
― Voulez-vous un coup d'etat, ce soir? (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 October 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
yeah totally clear as day
― adam, Thursday, 1 October 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
People are most infectious seven days before they start showing symptoms?
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ interesting from Tufekci pointing out that this isn't evenly infectious like flu, and how we need to be more aware of super-spreaders and environments for super-spreading
― stet, Thursday, 1 October 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
xp:Only in a minority that has such a long presymptomatic period, as from contact tracing studies the medium time from contact to first symptoms is about 5 days.
But from individual data underlying this meta, the subgroup consisting of asymptomatic people who tested positive, and subsequently developed symptoms 7 days later, had the highest viral titer. Given the wide shaded range for the graphed model (viral titers from ~5000 to ~200000 copies/ml 7 days before onset), there probably were very few patients that fall in that subgroup.
― Voulez-vous un coup d'etat, ce soir? (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 October 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link
dick noses very much in character
WATCH LIVE: Baltimore mayor Jack Young is giving a coronavirus update https://t.co/HkLC1Ar0BO— WJZ | CBS Baltimore (@wjz) September 30, 2020
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 2 October 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
https://www.scotblood.co.uk/news/find-out-more-about-convalescent-plasma-donation/
This is encouraging
Scientific evidence has shown that transfusing patients with plasma from people who have recovered from Covid-19 can reduce the mortality rate by up to a half, shorten the illness and make it less severe.
(disclaimer:I have not read the science)
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Friday, 2 October 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link
shhh don't tell the president
― sleeve, Friday, 2 October 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
"Pence, get in here!"
― nickn, Friday, 2 October 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
I like the super-spreader article but parts are a little hard to follow. Is the theory that certain individuals are predisposed to be super-spreaders, or just that their behavior (e.g. attending a big banquet event sick) makes them super-spreaders in practice? Or do we have no idea? Because the latter sounds more likely to me.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 2 October 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
Evidence on convalescent plasma is mixed. As with hydroxychloroquine, observational and retrospective studies find benefits, but the randomized trials (in this case, just two to date Gharbharan et al, Ling et al) found no significant effect.
― Sanpaku, Friday, 2 October 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
Yeah unless it's controlled, you will get those folks who are all like, "I used UV light and drank convalescent plasma and I'm fine now." Like it would have been totally different otherwise
― Pancho Viral (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
Assuming superspreader is both: early days high viral load pre-symptomatic plus lots of Shake hands with your Uncle Max, my boy activity.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 October 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
iirc some people simply exhale a LOT more particles, and that's a factor?
― sleeve, Friday, 2 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
But really came to post that I feel like I should have some kind of DN counter whilst walking around.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link