outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

i do see people do the thing where they pull it up when they are approaching someone else, but it's usually not until they and I are within like 10 feet of each other which seems a little late to me. idk.

in any case, none of today's hang-around-neckers were in this group, it just stayed around their neck when passing.

especially interesting to me is the het couple, one masked one not. no instances of that today but it's been fairly common. usually the dude unmasked.

usually the dude unmasked.

my experience, too

I'm that dude who pulls the mask up at 10-20 feet away.

First relevant use of the term DN on ILX seems to have been three weeks ago on the Rational/Irrational COVID-19 thread by Jaq. There are earlier unrelated posts though.

Anti-mask protest underway near my place now that Montreal is back in semi-lockdown. How I love hearing these fuckwits yell 'Libââârtéeeeee' at the top of their lungs.

from what i've been reading, you aren't that likely to become infected/sick if you merely walk by someone fast who is unmasked, unless they are infected AND happen to sneeze or cough heavily at or around the time you go by. You may not inhale enough of a viral load to actually become infected. nothing's 100%, but if you have one interaction with someone who walks by you unmasked for ten seconds, you're probably not going to get it even if they are infected. that said, because you never know how many people you're going to be around and for how long, I wear mine every time I leave the house anyway cos I like to reduce risk closer to zero, and that also means turning tail if I see someone unmasked coming over to me, nose-hairs dangling

xpost 25% will start coughing midway through.

from what i've been reading, you aren't that likely to become infected/sick if you merely walk by someone fast who is unmasked, unless they are infected AND happen to sneeze or cough heavily at or around the time you go by.

This is what I've read as well. When I'm out for a run, I keep a 2m distance and circumvent passersby as needed. Besides, house parties appear to be the #1 cause of infection here, by a significant margin.

btw u ded:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/30/neanderthal-genes-increase-risk-of-serious-covid-19-study-claims

this is amazing news,I will be a legend in the metal scene as an active dead rocker

i do see people do the thing where they pull it up when they are approaching someone else, but it's usually not until they and I are within like 10 feet of each other which seems a little late to me. idk.

Outdoors, 10 feet away from each... I have my doubts that this constitutes risky behavior.

totally negligible risk. it's kind of a dick move because it might make other people feel unsafe because you look like a person who doesn't take safety seriously. but just in an objective sense and assuming you give everyone a wide berth, you're not actually putting anyone in danger.

I had to be in a large medical facility Tuesday and sat glaring at the one douchey guy with his dicknose hanging out as he sat next to a properly masked pregnant person. Mask-policing nurse gave him hell eventually.
― Jaq, Thursday, September 3, 2020

Dicknose is definitely a national movement
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, September 3, 2020

Yup

Dicknose predates ilx

dick
nose
has
taken its toll
on me

Dicknose
Where my Rosemary grows

https://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/teen-wolf-stiles-feat-e1440350219913.png

Bus stop, wet day
She's there, I say
Please share my umbrella
Bus stops, bus goes
She stays, dicknose
Under my umbrella

There dick nose....
There dick nose again....

Teeny weeny
Shriveled little
Dick nose man

cause every girl's crazy 'bout a

Let's dick nosey
Let's dick nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A12-KN5UijA

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
Jack Frost nipping at dick nose

BREAKING: A Republican Member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives has tested positive for COVID-19 and now every single one of us who’s been here for Session has to be tested! More than half of the Republicans on the Floor refuse to wear masks!

— Brian Sims (@BrianSimsPA) October 1, 2020

Truly he is the bigliest misinformer:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-misinformation.html

A licky boom boom down

Amazon says more than 19,000 workers got Covid-19 — 😬 https://t.co/lvjE3EynbM

— Jay Yarow (@jyarow) October 1, 2020

amazon sucks, but that's 1.4%, which is less than the rate in the US population (2.4%).

SARS-CoV-2 viral load peaks prior to symptom onset: a systematic review and individual-pooled analysis of coronavirus viral load from 66 studies

https://i.imgur.com/eommGJx.png

Explains a great deal about how difficult this has been to eradicate.

yeah totally clear as day

People are most infectious seven days before they start showing symptoms?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ interesting from Tufekci pointing out that this isn't evenly infectious like flu, and how we need to be more aware of super-spreaders and environments for super-spreading

xp:
Only in a minority that has such a long presymptomatic period, as from contact tracing studies the medium time from contact to first symptoms is about 5 days.

But from individual data underlying this meta, the subgroup consisting of asymptomatic people who tested positive, and subsequently developed symptoms 7 days later, had the highest viral titer. Given the wide shaded range for the graphed model (viral titers from ~5000 to ~200000 copies/ml 7 days before onset), there probably were very few patients that fall in that subgroup.

dick noses very much in character

WATCH LIVE: Baltimore mayor Jack Young is giving a coronavirus update https://t.co/HkLC1Ar0BO

— WJZ | CBS Baltimore (@wjz) September 30, 2020

https://www.scotblood.co.uk/news/find-out-more-about-convalescent-plasma-donation/

This is encouraging

Scientific evidence has shown that transfusing patients with plasma from people who have recovered from Covid-19 can reduce the mortality rate by up to a half, shorten the illness and make it less severe.

(disclaimer:I have not read the science)

shhh don't tell the president

"Pence, get in here!"

I like the super-spreader article but parts are a little hard to follow. Is the theory that certain individuals are predisposed to be super-spreaders, or just that their behavior (e.g. attending a big banquet event sick) makes them super-spreaders in practice? Or do we have no idea? Because the latter sounds more likely to me.

Evidence on convalescent plasma is mixed. As with hydroxychloroquine, observational and retrospective studies find benefits, but the randomized trials (in this case, just two to date Gharbharan et al, Ling et al) found no significant effect.

Yeah unless it's controlled, you will get those folks who are all like, "I used UV light and drank convalescent plasma and I'm fine now." Like it would have been totally different otherwise

Assuming superspreader is both: early days high viral load pre-symptomatic plus lots of Shake hands with your Uncle Max, my boy activity.

iirc some people simply exhale a LOT more particles, and that's a factor?

But really came to post that I feel like I should have some kind of DN counter whilst walking around.

In the UK the number of cases rose rapidly.
But the public – and authorities – are only learning this now because these cases were only published now as a backlog.

The reason was apparently that the database is managed in Excel and the number of columns had reached the maximum. pic.twitter.com/X4a8keSEHK

— Max Roser (@MaxCRoser) October 5, 2020

you mean "maxium"

wait they used the columns to keep track of the patients? what the hell!?

Maxium R&D

wait they used the columns to keep track of the patients?

they didn't say that, whoever max roser is said that

the release just said it had reached it's maximum maxium size (1,048,576 rows?)

either way though, yiiiikes