ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

"What is not fine is posting stuff that makes other members of the board reasonably believe that they are sharing a space with someone who is actually violent and would actually carry out acts of violence."

lol is that is some risible bullshit and I've got nothing more to say on the matter because I'll just end up blowing a gasket. bye!

I'm not going to bring it up all the time and I will likely never do so again, I brought it up because we've had a weekend of 1000 (perfectly understandable) 'die ya bastard' posts including some fairly detailed and hyperbolic fantasies of the exact messy painful nature of that death.

I wonder how many people (with the wilfully bad reading comprehension that middle class arseholes like to adopt occasionally when it suits them) reported me to Prevent over my "plot" to commit violent acts lol. Well sometimes it's instructive to find out which posters aren't worth taking seriously anymore.

So glad this has come up again, great work lads.

Not sure why you've put "plot" in quotation marks. Nobody suggested you were plotting. You also keep trying to make it political, when actually it's about the safety of other members of this board. If you're the sort of person who would happily stab someone, then why should we think it's only politically-motivated stabbings that you'd do? I don't know you - if you don't want people to think that you're violent, don't post that you want to behave violently.

I'm not making anything political here, just taking your offensive slurs against me quite personally and pushing back because they are utter bullshit. This really is my last post, time to killfile some arseholes whom its a waste of effort to bother with.

Sorry for stirring this back up.

Back to the bread and butter of we're all going to die uk pols...

"I tell you in all candour, it will continue to be bumpy through to Christmas and may even be bumpy beyond."

I expect we'll be at >100 daily deaths this month. Fuck knows what BJ's idea of 'bumpy' is.

I'm surprised if the government is considering the third rail of closing pubs, but not surprised that they're not publicly talking about it

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/04/leak-reveals-possible-harsher-three-tier-covid-plan-for-england

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjeMdE5XcAACmzi?format=jpg&name=large

Starmer doesn't like their early postcard records era stuff, it was just music for the sake of music.

"That dates when I went to university" - at least some of these other melts can get a bit emotive about shed 7 or even Baggymp get's carried with his enthusiasm sometimes, there is more sentience and life in a dusty rug than in this dullard.

Sadiq Khan is, let's say, not always a comrade but this seems like an unambiguously good thing:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/03/dramatic-plunge-in-london-air-pollution-since-2016-report-finds

Almost 23k new cases, fuck.

NEW: Public Health England has found 15,841 positive cases that weren't registered on its data system

As a result, 22,961 have been reported today for England

The graph of cases now looks like this 📈 pic.twitter.com/fA5KTgERy7

— Rowland Manthorpe (@rowlsmanthorpe) October 4, 2020

they are adding figures lost due to a technicality last week onto this weeks daily figures.

"Eight days - EIGHT DAYS - of #COVID19 case numbers were being under-reported due to “a technical issue which has now been resolved”.
And even tho it’s “resolved” no clarity abt how much of the shortfall is left to be reported. Hundreds? Thousands?"

not that it makes the situation any better, it just means any reportage last week that things were getting slightly under control was completely WRONG!

Were the missing cases still contacted for tracing?

If not that's a shitload of positives out in the wild for a week.

"“This issue did not affect people receiving their Covid-19 test results and all people who tested positive have received their Covid-19 test result in the normal way. It also does not impact the basis on which decisions about local action were taken last week.”

(No idea if that's true, though)

Public Health England provided a breakdown of how many cases were not included in each day’s figures, which are as follows:
957 cases were not included on September 25, when the original figure given was 6,874
744 on September 26, when the original figure given was 6,042
757 on September 27, when the original figure given was 5,693
none on September 28, when the original figure given was 4,044
1,415 on September 29, when the original figure given was 7,143
3,049 on September 30, when the original figure given was 7,108
4,133 on October 1, when the original figure given was 6,914
4,786 on October 2, when the original figure given was 6,968

From The Guardian live feed

Starmer says if there were rapidly escalating rona infections and deaths under a Labour government then the correct figures would be released in a competent and timely fashion.

Can't tell if that's a joke

Hat Mancock, not at all shook

Bloody hell. Asked a fairly reasonable question in the Commons, Matt Hancock replies: “I will not have this divisive language. I will not have it.”

You will not have Parliamentary scrutiny? Then you may be in the wrong job, sir. pic.twitter.com/gTQ6pLWGWo

— Matthew Thompson (@mattuthompson) October 2, 2020

Matt Hancock response chart. pic.twitter.com/5Pitdy1jPF

— Imranbristol (@Imranicus) October 3, 2020

I think a few blood vessels just burst

In the UK the number of cases rose rapidly.
But the public – and authorities – are only learning this now because these cases were only published now as a backlog.

The reason was apparently that the database is managed in Excel and the number of columns had reached the maximum. pic.twitter.com/X4a8keSEHK

— Max Roser (@MaxCRoser) October 5, 2020

Lol

PHE 🤝Kelly Rowland

catastrophic misuses of Excel

lol gyac

row numbers = 1048576, columns (A-XFD) = 16384

XFD is not where *i'd* choose to end but you do you excel

Trying to work out if that Hancock response is butthurt or if it's now part of a deliberate communications strategy. Slough isn't going to return a Tory MP any time soon so why bother saying anything at all?

suspect it might be a deliberate "lol nothing matters" strategy

I mean leaving aside the elephant in the room as to why he might take that tone with Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi and Dr Rosena Allin-Khan.

Oh god the fix these geniuses came up with is to split the results into multiple sheets. Switching to rows apparently unthinkable.

xp was going to mention that i'm sure he's had run-ins with Singh Dhesi before

bring down the government by showing them pivot tables

The civil service is awash with people with amazing excel skills they learned doing they European Computer Driving Licence 20 years ago and has almost no-one who can find their way around a database.

*their

As a data engineer I'm pretty shocked they aren't at least using some kind of ingest into Azure > PowerBI setup tbh.

Having worked in parts of public sector I am not.

Not just a public sector problem tbh

the document that @maxcroser attaches seems in fact to say nothing abt excel or columns -- that's his added interpretation (and i think cheeky joke?)

not that this isn't an absurd fuck up, it's just not that particular absurd fuck up (or maybe it is but the document doesn't specifically say so)

The Mail is claiming that it was Excel-linked — they've solved it by splitting the files — and the numbers tapped out at exactly XFD which is a v. odd coincidence if it's not the case that they've been using columns for rows

pic.twitter.com/yeQlqVOPVF

— leckie (@verblet) October 5, 2020

If they are using any version of Excel after 2007 then the upper row count is 1,048,576. I wonder if that (+ 16,000 missing rows) ties in with the official counts?

Otherwise they hit 65,536 which means they are still on Excel 2003 which would be the icing on the cake of stupidity.

Nicola Sturgeon just accidentally called Margaret Ferrier "Margaret Covid" again!

Also expecting new restrictions announced this week with talk of a 'circuit breaker' of some sort.

a 32 amp/30 mA rcbo should do the trick

sorry I don't know anything about excel so just needlessly posting something I'm allegedly a confirmed expert on!

Various Scottish talking heads have used "short sharp shock" instead of circuit breaker which reminds me of the scary language used around borstals and keeping kids in line in the 70s using cunts worse that Mackay in 'Porridge'

(also hi from a fellow (former) spark!)

respec!

Does a circuit breaker include closing schools again or just everything else?