ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

Another wonderful intervention:

Boris Johnson urges people to ‘go to the cinema’ following news Cineworld is temporarily closing UK sites https://t.co/sYuUP0PavI

— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) October 5, 2020

October half-term holiday is just a week.

bars and cafes in Paris to close for 2 weeks starting tomorrow.

xp But it's not the same week - either 19th-23rd or 26th-30th?

yeah exactly, different areas seem to be out of sync so two weeks would cover all areas. obv that still *might* entail "shutting" schools for a week but i assume the logic is it'll just be a week

I expect Scotland will further restrict hospitality to coincide with the October school break. The language so far has been that anywhere there's tradeoffs, keeping the schools open remains a priority.

If they close hotels or holiday parks during the school break they'll take serious incoming as loads of people who had to cancel summer holidays have booked 'staycations' for the October week.

Turns out the short sharp shock thing was really out into practice under Thatcher (natch) so more early 80s than 70s.

https://youtu.be/OaulyuLQ1j0

Comments on this are all former lads listing their sentences. "Aldington 1980. Had a great time. Made a man of me."

Aye ok Carlin...

there was a bit of a(nother) 50's revival of hard-right macho warfare state attitude (see also clause 28) in the 80's because apparently that stage of the dying empire was a golden era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVBnjg0-Gw Thatcher at the start...

that'll show 'em

Well, not thatcher, but it's a quote from her? I don't remember.

the quote was Willie Whitelaw, it's mentioned in the borstal vid upthread, and i remember it being made at the time but i don't think the phrase was a new coinage tbh

Ah! thanks

they probably used the same phrase in the Kenyan gulags

The phrase was around for years (wikipedia has it in The Mikado and in a translation of the First Satire of Horace). It was repurposed for abusing teenagers following Whitelaw's speech and made its way into Thatcher's 1979 manifesto.

Tories love a G&S quote don't they?

In the Mikado it means having your head removed.

Today's Spider-Man Pointing at Spider-Man moment was Labour saying Rishi's conference speech (in which the requirement for nuff tonz of more austerity was darkly hinted at) "lacked detail".

https://scontent.fltn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/120813621_10159363374576002_5272028791897433407_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=dd9801&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=WxyETtxpTLgAX-pa383&_nc_ht=scontent.fltn2-1.fna&tp=14&oh=a4b0270e1596b765d4d64985393b37b0&oe=5FA24C93

I regret to inform you that as a result of today’s jolly japes I was exposed to what i can only refer to as “lewd clippy fanart” on twitter.

This thread is quite concerning

We laugh at Lozza ‘Loser’ Fox but we’ll have to take this seriously, I’m afraid.

Not him. Those behind him.

He’s just a figurehead.

They have the cash - £5 million up front - and a plan.

The expertise, experience & contacts too.

But who are they?

Read on & pls RT

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— Labour of Love (@politicworm) September 29, 2020

was it posted here before?

It wasn’t. Good thread.

£5 million is a good legal fund, given that at least one person is getting in the lawyers after Fox called him a pedophile.

They might need to drop Fox, he is such an utterly useless failure of a human, but the Culture Wars UKIP is evidently going to continue.

fascist-melt luvvie dynasties in the UK suck so much shit, nearly all of them I mean - even loads of the overrated so-called lefty more melt-adjacent ones are awful people. I despair when I see people I usually respect repping for Danny Dyer just because he isn't an overt fascist like Plug from the bash street kids. The problem with Fox is possibly a Freudian malarkey, his dad was a rugged dish - he's an ugly weasel.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejl3aezXsAME08O?format=jpg&name=900x900

Who can make a "Stoya..." joke out of that

Not Zarah Sultana wearing a jumper my dad owns and talking about Pat Finucane’s murder in the House is it?

This evening I voted against the Covert Human Intelligence Sources Bill.

I can't support legislation that could give undercover state agents the licence to murder, torture and commit sexual violence. pic.twitter.com/PK09NRP2dU

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) October 5, 2020

Wasting her breath. Proper, intelligent opposition is amendments at committee level.

173 Labour peers abstained on a division to block 'up to 55,000 evictions'.

The Tories won the division by 140 votes.

— Craig Hackney Cub (@CraigHackneyCub) October 5, 2020

maybe time to ditch that spider brooch lads

it makes me laugh when Tory PM's sulkily threaten to flood the Lords with Tories when the odd bill gets voted down.. perish the thought.

I can't really take "Give £5m to Lawrence Fox for the Anti-Woke party" seriously at all, the sinister scheme is that people have more fucking money than sense.

Cant wait to see the video they spend some of that five mill on. A dramatic reconstruction of the true story of the bloke who got arrested for being white!

People finding money to fling at right-wing pressure group style startup parties when there is already a right-wing govt that doesn't need any pressing and doesn't even have a meaningful opposition. Just sing when you are winning sometimes ffs!

Football management 101. You strengthen from a position of power.
There's a really opportunity there to drag the whole spectrum of UK politics even further right.

claz: "he isn't an overt fascist like Plug from the bash street kids"

took me a while to unravel this apparent hate-filled defamation of a beloved cartoon character but that's bcz i was laughing too much at the realisation that leo baxendale drew a hypnotically ugly schoolboy and just laconically christened him "plug" (for some reason the joke hadn't landed any time in my first six decades)

yr new name is claz btw

#Coronavirus: @RishiSunak suggests musicians and others in arts should retrain and find other jobs https://t.co/6Y9xMaxl1I

— ITV News Politics (@ITVNewsPolitics) October 6, 2020

There's a really opportunity there to drag the whole spectrum of UK politics even further right.

Trying to formalise this into a political party headed by a lunatic doesn't seem like an obvious strategy when the same views are represented across the press, the BBC, social media, etc, by Spiked and Guido alumni, tbh. It's not going to be a serious electoral threat. Is Fox going to get more airtime, or use it more effectively, than Harwood, O'Neil, Whelan, Westley, etc?

Given the people behind it, possibly. I agree they've backed the wrong horse/fox but there's a gap for disgruntled gammons who don't have a brexit to fight for and don't want to appear full on Tommy Robinson.
Both UKIP and the Brexit party were successful in influencing the mainstream agenda without any significant parliamentary success.

This could have the same impact as there's still France/Germany to hate and still little boats full of scary brown people crossing the channel. Not to mention the recent embracing of a whole bunch of US right inspired garbage.

Weird how he doesn't say this to residential & commercial landlords. https://t.co/gWoU2aLBi5

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) October 6, 2020

Plug got his own comic which I bought. It was supposedly an edgier Beano, it felt that way at the time.

plug-ugly (n.): "city ruffian, one of a gang who assaulted people and property in mid-19th century American cities," 1856, originally in Baltimore, from plug (n.), the American English slang name for the tall, silk stovepipe hats then popular among young men, + ugly. Sometimes as the name of a specific gang, but often generic

kickstarter for a scorsese movie abt the edgiest bash street kid

"edgy" in this sense was basically a bit wackier, a bit ruder, kind of precursor to Oink! i guess

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_small/11135/111350878/6407565-plug%2048%20-%20august%2019th%201978%20-%20cover.jpg

also more darts

also i think i joined the Plug Club

claz warfare

Too much bashing not enough substance? @BorisJohnson just called @keir_starmer “Captain Hindsight”.

Anyone got any better nicknames for the Leader of the Opposition? #Peston

Comment below 👇

— Peston (@itvpeston) October 6, 2020

Calz, Peston finally has a thread for you.

oh god thanks for reminding me of Oink. I had the issue with the Oink Rap on flexidisk ( which iirc was basically The Message with lyrics about not eating bacon)

oink! did brexit