Stevie Nicks solo - Classic or Dud?

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“Blue Lamp” is phenomenal. I can’t believe it was relegated to a b-side/soundtrack cut

beamish13, Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

I want to resist this notion of Nicks as "at the complete mercy of her collaborators," which may have been true in 1985-1996 but was certainly not true in Fleetwood Mac (as her demos show) or her solo work from 1989 onward.

Also, most singer-songwriters are at the mercy of collaborators, "complete" or otherwise.

They need bands to flesh out their crystal visions. I suspect a Nicks-at-the-piano album at her peak would've been special, though.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

"Blue Lamp" is a catchy motherfucker.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

stand back would be a great song without the synths

so she “stole” a bit from little red corvette

it’s a stretch to call prince a “collaborator” there

I think she’s a really underrated songwriter and singer and all this surgical picking apart what she “really” did is weird.

brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

otm

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

Some great comments on here, just for one example: Hell yeah. Hell yeah to the LA session players. Hell yeah to Don Henley knowing that with Stevie to light his nights, somehow he'd get by. Hell yeah to Alfred Soto correctly observing that when you didn't plan to hear it just then, "Stand Back" is in fact the best song ever written. Along with "Edge Of Seventeen" or "If Anyone Falls." Hell yeah to doing fat rails at some record producer's party up the canyon in Studio City, or maybe it was a real estate guy, and finding yourself alone on a balcony at four in the morning, the has-beens long retired to the bedrooms with the wannabes, and maybe a few stragglers sprawled on living room shag, too wasted or too desperate to know that for them the party ended weeks ago, with the Valley twinkling everywhere below, and knowing that love is only one fine star away. Hell yeah.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, July 5, 2005

And the one already in italics, apparently from somewhere else, re the Frank Kogan of Mac collectors, the beneath-the-hierarchy of fans, young women who wanted to talk about young woman things, and what in Stevie songs of and to such want, despite any degree in songs or fans of accepted sexism, and "there was a culture beyond that'---who wrote this, Alfred?

dow, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

meant to refer to "what in Stevie songs *spoke* of and to such want"

dow, Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

stand back would be a great song without the synths
so she “stole” a bit from little red corvette
it’s a stretch to call prince a “collaborator” there
I think she’s a really underrated songwriter and singer and all this surgical picking apart what she “really” did is weird.

I like the record more than the song - I've never been especially bowled over by any covers or live performances to really think it was the other way around, and I definitely like it more than the remixed version on Timespace, so I can't agree there.

I think we already covered this in the previous posts, but 1) I didn't want to spend too much time discussing details, so "collaborator" shouldn't be taken that literally, "influence" probably would've been better and 2) Alfred already said he thought that influence was overstated, even if it's been stated by Nicks herself, and that's fine if we disagree

Anyway, I'm not sure I'd call her underrated as a songwriter given how massively popular her songs are - her songs with Fleetwood Mac are probably heard and covered more than the others by her bandmates, and they are great songs so they seem rated just fine.

birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

I was going to suggest "influence" as a substitute because no question Prince influenced the writing of "Stand Back."

And lol I prefer the remixed "Stand Back" on Timespace -- punchier, longer, with the extended coda of Nicksbabble.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

I don't like any of the CLA remixes on that compilation, I never kept it for that reason.

birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

Sometimes it's a bitch!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

LOL

I rarely like remixes like this, unless it was a record that was seriously compromised, remixing at best feels pointless, but it could be a lot worse.

birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

wow 18 new answers and none of them are about “Show Them The Way”? It’s good. It didn’t blow me away or anything but it’s staying on my 2020 playlist.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U74L8TbHsoY

Jeff W, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

the live “stand back” on the chain box is hurried and thin but I kinda like it

brimstead, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

Sorry Jeff -- that's what started my solo Stevie binge, I got distracted by Rooms on Fire.

lukas, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

The new song's okay. Too many JFK references instead of JFK references.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

the live “stand back” on the chain box is hurried and thin but I kinda like it

It's not bad. I don't think that was a balanced collection - they really shortchanged the pre-Buckingham/Nicks era - but that track was a good pick to represent the post-Buckingham lineup, which wasn't exactly rich with gems.

birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Blue Lamp is all time

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Sunday, 6 December 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link

if you wiser you would get out

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Sunday, 6 December 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

otm

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy birthday, fellow sister of the moon

https://giphy.com/gifs/abedder-gypsy-stevie-nicks-fleetwood-mac-buLmE2bSbOkEoC1zO

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

blame it on my wild heart

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

^^^ best fucking album ever, as I discovered about a month ago

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

I remember reading Details Magazine when it was still around and they did a Q&A with Stevie and the writer had the audacity to ask her about a rather explicit rumor (rumour?) that was going around at the time. I will paraphrase:

Interviewer: There's a rumor going around that you did so much coke that your nostrils are wrecked and you have an assistant blow coke into your asshole. (Yes, they came right out and asked her about this).

Nicks: (no response)

Interviewer: It must suck having those kinds of rumors about you.

I remember at the time finding it unreal they even asked, and more surprised she didn't storm out of the inteview.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

well the magazine was called details

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

lol I remember it

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

My Stevie @Barbie has been with me now for several months. When Mattel came to me asking if I would like to have a Barbie made in the “Rumours” cover style I was very overwhelmed. Of course I questioned “would she look like me? Would she have my spirit? Would she have my heart…”… pic.twitter.com/JQXjF7XSMK

— Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) October 2, 2023

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link

I guess there have been a few of these random Music Series Barbies, including Bowie:

https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/David-Bowie-Barbie-hero.jpg?w=942&h=623&crop=1

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:22 (six months ago) link

Mid 70s yellow teeth coked up Bowie would have made a great Joker

calstars, Monday, 2 October 2023 19:27 (six months ago) link


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