ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

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🚨Our Branch has unanimously passed a motion to condemn the actions of Rosie Duffield MP, and express solidarity with our member who resigned. ✊

We’ll be writing to @labourwhips and @UKLabour to request a formal investigation, & call for Rosie to resign as Chair of Women’s PLP. pic.twitter.com/sJbW2It6gF

— GMB Members’ Staff (@GMB_MPs_Staff) October 15, 2020

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

open-and-shut case, i look forward to rosie duffield's immediate ejection, what could possibly go wrong

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

I'm sure she can get her own Times Radio/GN News show out of it.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link

This is so depressing

Please watch this - it's so important.

The #CHISBill being rushed through Parliament today is simply unconscionable. pic.twitter.com/N3SYlwLHOO

— Big Brother Watch (@BigBrotherWatch) October 15, 2020

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

And its just the start

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

lol, the amendment preventing undercover agents murdering people has been defeated.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link


Burnham accused No 10 of treating the north of England as a “sacrificial lamb” for a flawed regional lockdown policy. He said that the UK government knew that regional lockdowns, involving places like Greater Manchester going facing tier 3 restrictions, would not work. The only thing that would work was a national lockdown, he said. In his opening statement he said:

But the government told us this morning it is unwilling to do that because of the damage it will do to the national economy.

And yet that is what they want to impose on the North West.

So that was our conclusion from the No10 meeting this morning: they are willing to sacrifice jobs and businesses here to try and save them elsewhere.

Greater Manchester, the Liverpool City-Region and Lancashire are being set up as the canaries in the coalmine for an experimental regional lockdown strategy as an attempt to prevent the expense of what is truly needed.

In the Q&A he said:

We have to protect the health the nation. But let’s do it as one nation, and not make the north of England the sacrificial lamb for an ill-thought-through Downing Street policy which doesn’t make sense in the real world.

And he also accused the government of treating the north “with contempt”. He said:

People are fed up of being treated in this way, the north is fed up of being pushed around. We aren’t going to be pushed around any more.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link


He said that that the financial support offered to Greater Manchester if it went into tier 3 was not enough. As an example, he said it would not do anything for freelance workers. So tier 3 would result in “certain hardship, job losses and business failure”.

He set out the level of support he was demanding if Greater Manchester were to go into tier 3. He said:

The very least they should be offering the people of Greater Manchester who will be affected by these closures is: a full and fair 80% furlough for all affected workers; 80% income support for people who are self-employed; and a proper compensation scheme for businesses.

He said Greater Manchester would “stand firm” against the government. He said:

This is an important moment. Greater Manchester will stand firm.

We are fighting back – for fairness and for the health of our people in the broadest sense.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: 34 Labour MPs rebelled and voted against the #CHISBill pic.twitter.com/o2BSqhs0BE

— Balance of Power (@BalancePowerUK) October 15, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

34 Lab MPs voted no:

Abbott
Ali
Barker
Begum
Blake
Burgon
Butler
Byrne
Carden
Corbyn
Davies
Kelly Foy
Gardiner
Greenwood
Hopkins
Johnson
Lavery
Lewis
Lloyd
RLB
McDonnell
Mearns
Mishra
Morris
Osamor
Osborne
Owen
Ribeiro-Addy
Russell-Moyle
Sultana
Trickett
Whitley
Whittome
Winter https://t.co/87sw1srkPZ

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) October 15, 2020

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Trying to process this by considering how many past convictions the act would've prevented and suspecting it might be zero.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

might be a good question to ask a former barrister with years of human rights/public law experience

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

xp yeah cunts gonna cunt basically, but you just can’t pretend you’re on the left in good conscience and say that Hillsborough/spycops/Pat Finucane’s murder were all good and fine.

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

One of the last bits of investigative journalism that impressed me was the Guardian's work on spy cops. Seven years on, the paper's choice of Labour leader has refused to oppose a bill legalising such activity, while the leader they relentlessly vilified stood firmly against it.

— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) October 15, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Lol @ hours agonising over it.

You can read my speech and then go down as well to Connor McGinn. The bill isn’t retrospective and Labour is fully committed to inquiries on Orgreave and Hillsborough

As I said how I voted was marginal and I spent many hours agonising over ithttps://t.co/xrt2q8DYPm

— Alex Sobel (@alexsobel) October 15, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

why don't they get on with the breakaway party fgs

Chip-vill-A (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

to be clear, the breakaway party that i'd be in favour of and would vote for, zip it alphie

Chip-vill-A (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

What's that then, something like Change UK?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

Is it going to be like this all lockdown? Think I’d rather post my poll about being vegetarian/vegan “when required”, ffs.

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

zip it alphie

Is this the party name? UZip?

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

I’d donate to it

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

normal names like Progress won't cut it in this dire moment

Chip-vill-A (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

you want something that suggests electoral success, so i’d go with winzip tbrr

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

As an early investor, I want to be involved in forming policy. None of the six welcome ofc.

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Invite Alex Sobel to DJ at the launch, gyac.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Absolutely not

seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

baggymp on the wheels of steel or gtfo

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

the healing gesture this difficult moment needs

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

Lol the worst thing about that would be he'd probably make a surprisingly good job of it!

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

winzip? too close to the real rar

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

I'm actually quite astonished that this gvt. have managed to get that to this stage.

Gerneten-flĂĽken cake (jed_), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

the English can't do groundworks for shit, my ancestors would have finished that weeks ago!

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

Propose we call the new party Never Vote

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

I want a party with no politicians - just a mob of armed angry firebrands with chips on their shoulders and murder in their eyes!

I'm getting sick of everyone sucking off Burnham, if he is the best we've got then we really are fucked. He's slick and slippery but he hasn't got me fooled and I've got a long memory of multiple times I've cussed his name including recently his islamophobic dogwhistle racism when local lockdowns were timed with Ramadam and sticking up for his corrupt Tory pal Jenrick when the cunt should have bang-to-rights been sacked. I'll be proven right over time because I know a lousy bullshit merchant pol when I see one.

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

the cuddling of Burnham or the burning of Cuddlham is a v precise symptom of the ish - a gentle tory with nothing to offer the working class is a hero for a moment because even he's to the left of the lol party of the people

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

We need to reach out to which magazine subscribers

plax (ico), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

the only demographic worth pursuing

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

even a good person who I respect and is a great advocate for the disabled was wistfully posting : I can't help thinking things would be so much better now if Burnham had prevailed instead of Corbz. Arrgh! short and selective memory syndrome, his campaign was utterly vacuous and never had a chance. Some people who seem capable of making interesting insights just lose their fucking mind over lego man.

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

even the best of us get persuaded by the least cuntish, sometimes

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

I want to reach out to Witch magazine subscribers, some very important skillsets in the cursing 101 module!

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

It's taken me two years, but I've finally got every Labour manifesto since 1966 pic.twitter.com/rgUTbKyYQB

— Sam Evans (@SEvansAber) October 15, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Poll all the pre-Corbyn ones imo

Chip-vill-A (imago), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

lol Kinnock

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

We're Alright!

calzino, Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

it's amusing to think about what a fraudulant joke-loser flop of a showman Kinnock was, but yet the current Dem presidential candidate - current fav to be next US pres, once actually embarrassed himself getting caught out plagarising one of his most hackiest of self-promoting political speeches!

calzino, Friday, 16 October 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

BBC: “Lancashire has agreed a deal to enter Tier 3”.

Loving this. Govt now so inept it has to negotiate with areas it previously just issued diktats about. Centre cannot hold stuff afoot.

stet, Friday, 16 October 2020 09:39 (three years ago) link

It was just a few months ago that we were lolling that the UK government wasn't in charge of NI or Scotland. Now they're not even in charge of Lancashire!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 October 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

Or Kent.

The perfect storm of fucking up that is descending would be amusing if it wasn't for the permanent fact that it's not these cunts that will have to pay the price.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link


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